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se⋅di⋅tion [si-dish-uhn] Show IPA
–noun 1. incitement of discontent or rebellion against a government.
2. any action, esp. in speech or writing, promoting such discontent or rebellion.
3. Archaic. rebellious disorder.


Synonyms:
1. insurrection, mutiny. See treason.

Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state.
Insurrection; rebellion.


1. The raising of commotion in a state, not amounting to insurrection; conduct tending to treason, but without an overt act; excitement of discontent against the government, or of resistance to lawful authority.

In soothing them, we nourish 'gainst our senate The cockle of rebellion, insolence, sedition. --Shak.

Noisy demagogues who had been accused of sedition. --Macaulay.

2. Dissension; division; schism. [Obs.]

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, . . . emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies. --Gal. v. 19, 20.

Syn: Insurrection; tumult; uproar; riot; rebellion; revolt.


Acts that incite rebellion or civil disorder against an established government.

c.1375, "rebellion," from O.Fr. sedicion, from L. seditionem (nom. seditio) "civil disorder, dissention," lit. "a going apart, separation," from se- "apart" (see secret) + itio "a going," from pp. of ire "to go." Meaning "conduct or language inciting to rebellion against a lawful government" is from 1838.


Main Entry: se·di·tion
Pronunciation: si-'di-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin seditio, literally, separation, from sed apart + itio act of going, from ire to go
: the crime of creating a revolt, disturbance, or violence against lawful civil authority with the intent to cause its overthrow or destruction

Sedition
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is about the law term. For other uses see Sedition (disambiguation)

Sedition is a term of law which refers to overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority as tending toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Typically,sedition is considered a subversive act, and the overt acts that may be prosecutable under sedition laws vary from one legal code to another. Where the history of these legal codes has been traced, there is also a record of the change in the definition of the elements constituting sedition at certain points in history. This overview has served to develop a sociological definition of sedition as well, within the study of state persecution.

The difference between sedition and treason consists primarily in the subjective ultimate object of the violation to the public peace. Sedition does not consist of levying war against a government nor of adhering to its enemies, giving enemies aid, and giving enemies comfort. Nor does it consist, in most representative democracies, of peaceful protest against a government, nor of attempting to change the government by democratic means (such as direct democracy or constitutional convention).

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power. Treason is the violation of allegiance to one's sovereign or state, giving aid to enemies, or levying war against one's state. Sedition is encouraging one's fellow citizens to rebel against their state, whereas treason is actually betraying one's country by aiding and abetting another state. Sedition laws somewhat equate to Terrorism and Public Order laws.
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations and timber

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in his "worst economy in history)

Millions more without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election.
It's a free podcast. You guys need to understand how manipulated you really are.
They contribute nothing to the debate. They are interested in speaking...not listening.
This person is abusing the site by posting the same thing hundres of times.
We, the users of this site have been abused by endless posts calling for Obama to show his birth Certificate. One post calling for this will do.

If you support that, then vote and be done with it on ONE POST. Leave comments if you must. But to clutter this site with endless repeats of ANY post for ANYTHING is to abuse all the users of this site.

The fact is most of us don't care what you have to say. More people voted for Obama than any president in history. This story has been debunked, thoroughly by independent non-partisan sources.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

We should not have to wade through 50 of the same ridiculous post when one will suffice. Anybody who deliberately sets out to waste the time of people on this site who are sincerely trying to have a dialogue on ways to make government better needs to have the privilege of partaking in this process taken away.


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

We should not have to wade through 50 of the same ridiculous post when one will suffice. Anybody who deliberately sets out to waste the time of people on this site who are sincerely trying to have a dialogue on ways to make government better needs to have the priviledge of partaking in this process taken away.
THE ONLY THING THAT CAN PUT A BOTTOM IN THE REALESTAE MARKET IS NEW BUYERS!

I had to say no on bailing out homeowners with bad mortgages. Not because I want foreclosures, but because it won't work. There is not enough money in the world to bail out enough homeowners to stop the fall of real estate prices.

For the money it costs to bail out banks and bail out homeowners we could put a bottom in the market right now. Obama hade a good start with tax credits for 1st time home-buyers.

Incentives to buy, loan guarantees, help with down-payments if you can show the ability to pay a mortgage, tax credits for home buyers even if they aren't first time home buyers and even if they are buying it for an investment or rental property, are all a better way to put a bottom on the market.

If you can stop the market from crashing further then most of the homeowners you're looking to bail out would stay in their homes. If the market keeps going down and more and more people are going to be upside down in their mortgages then people are going to keep walking away from their loans no matter how much "good money after bad" you throw at them. A tax credit won't be enough to keep someone paying a mortgage on a house that is worth one third of what they owe on it.

You want to bail out the banks? If you give loan guarantees or down-payment assistance to homebuyers that money will go directly to the bottom line of the bank, and it will staunch the hemorrhaging of the housing crash so the banks assets will stop falling in value, also adding to the bottom line.

Obama is right on this one but he hasn't gone far enough.
PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
Charge decision makers at any polluting business who buys a patent for a cleaner technology - simply to make sure it never comes to market - with treason or crimes against humanity.

At the very least it should be illegal to buy a patent for the purposes of keeping it from being produced and given the amount of money at stake penalties must be severe. A one percent increase in an engines efficiency means trillions in lost profits for big oil.

Air and water pollution causes hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of deaths every year and is putting the continued existence of human life on this planet at risk so that a very few can make obscene profits while the vast majority needlessly suffer respiratory illness, cancer, global warming, etc.

It is standard for Oil companies to buy up battery and other fuel efficiency technology in order to keep it off the market or "develop it so slowly that it grinds progress to a halt. And of course that puts the best, most efficient, least toxic materials off limits for anyone else trying to develop similar technology…seriously hampering advancement of cleaner engines.

The Oil and Utility companies get the patents by instigating frivolous lawsuits they know they'll never win but that the smaller companies can't afford to litigate. They file bogus claim after bogus claim with an infinite supply of legal talent on permanent salary and unlimited funds.

First they will bankrupt a company…then they offer the environmental entrepreneur a chunk money to wash their hands of the project and sell the patent once there is no chance the company can ever recover financially or afford to produce it once they've hemorrhaged all their capital in legal fees.

Then they force a draconian non-disclosure agreement and the public never hears about it. They spend billions of dollars in TV and radio ads to green up their images and to make sure no one ever does a story on the practice.

If that is not a crime against humanity what is?
You live in Florida and your views line up more with Nader but you're afraid to give your vote to Bush? Support instant runoff elections!

It allows you a second choice candidate. If your choice is not in the top two your vote will go to you second choice...Gore! Then you can vote your conscience without being responsible for 8 years of SHRUB and Dick Cheney!

If you are not satisfied with the 2 party monopoly stranglehold, not only of power, but of ideas and debate...then instant runoff voting is the only way these voices will ever be heard.
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luvwith 9 months ago
Hey Sobi.

How did you feel about sedition when we were out protesting the Iraq War and the Patriot Act?
luvwith 9 months ago
"Rush has more intelligence in his little finger than your supreme leader has in his lanky suit. Why don't you just try to hear what Rush is saying."

It's always interesting to see a blow-hard, right-winger talking about someone else's intelligence or education. Almost invariably there is some 3rd grade grammatical or spelling error in their drivel, like putting a period at the end of a question instead of a question mark.

OK, fine. It's petty. I'm no spelling bee champ or English major. It's cool. But if your going to criticize someone's lack of intelligence or make comparisons don't you kinda need to check for third grade punctuation errors to keep from making yourself look like a douche bag?

I'm just sayin'...
luvwith 9 months ago
Rush Limbaugh's new low


The puffy blowhards of right-wing radio had a love fest Wednesday night, just before President Obama's historic speech to the Muslim world from Cairo University. Rush Limbaugh and his fanboy Sean Hannity fumed that Obama is turning the U.S. socialist, and fascist, and that's not all:

"If al Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they better hurry, because Obama's beating them to it," Limbaugh told fanboy Hannity. And when Hannity tried to suggest naughty liberals had twisted Limbaugh's comments about hoping Obama fails, "which wasn't what you said," Limbaugh disagreed. “I don't hide from it. I do want and I still want Obama to fail... I define America succeeding by virtue of Obama failing. I love America!”



Got that? The most influential man in the Republican Party – Dick Cheney prefers him to retired Gen. Colin Powell – says the president is more destructive than the folks who killed almost 3,000 Americans on 9/11, and more before and after that date. And almost 24 hours later, not one Republican has called Limbaugh out for his remark.

Instead, they're lining up to find fault with Obama's faultless and inspiring Cairo speech. All over the right-wing Web the president is being criticized for this simple and accurate statement:

“Given our interdependence, any world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will inevitably fail. So whatever we think of the past, we must not be prisoners of it. Our problems must be dealt with through partnership; progress must be shared.”

Hot Air says that means Obama wants to turn Ronald Reagan's City on a Hill into a "Common Community on a Plain." Orange John Boehner is angry that Obama suggested Israel might have to compromise with Hamas. AEI's Danielle Pletka accused Obama of "the moral equivalency that denies right and wrong;" the omnipresent Liz Cheney likewise accused the president of "moral relativism." But those charges are somewhat less stupid than yesterday's flap over whether Obama called the U.S. a "Muslim nation," which of course he didn't (he merely told French media that the number of Muslims in America was equivalent to that of small Muslim nations.)

Still, even in that forest of ignorance, Limbaugh stands tall. It is impossible to imagine a liberal of Limbaugh's importance comparing George W. Bush to al-Qaeda and keeping his job. It's also hard not to compare Limbaugh's jihad against Obama to Bill O'Reilly's crusade against the late Dr. Tiller. The demonization of our president as more dangerous than al-Qaeda can't be good for the state of discourse and democracy, can it? Will any Republican leader stand up to him?



-- Joan Walsh
luvwith 9 months ago
Why Rush Limbaugh Should Be Charged With Treason

“I hope he fails.”
- Rush Limbaugh, when asked about his hopes for the Obama presidency, January 16th, 2009.

trea⋅son (from Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary, 1998):

“The offense of attempting to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance, or of betraying the state into the hands of a foreign power; disloyalty; treachery.”

Oran’s Dictionary of the Law (1983) defines treason as: “…[a]…citizen’s actions to help a foreign government overthrow, make war against, or seriously injure the [parent nation].”

The United States Constitution, Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows:

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

As part of the media - with a dedicated following that surpasses the majority of “mainstream media” outlet viewerships in size and intensity - Rush Limbaugh is promoting disloyalty, treachery and injury to the nation by saying he wants Obama’s presidency to “fail.” As he often references on-air, Limbaugh is aware that enemies of the United States listen to his show on a regular basis. His statement that he hopes Obama fails as president essentially means he hopes the state of the country gets worse, which would give our enemies aid and comfort by increasing their morale and resolve to hasten our downfall.

By relentlessly encouraging division, fear and hatred for Obama’s presidency through demonstrably-effective brainwashing techniques(1), Limbaugh is now actively waging psychological war against his own country. His flat-out admission that he wants to see Obama fail confirms what the true patriots of America have suspected for several years: Limbaugh doesn’t care about the integrity of his country at all — he exists solely to profit off the hatred, fear and misguided loyalty of his fellow countrymen.

By clamoring for the downfall of the United States under Obama’s presidency, Limbaugh is attempting to create a self-fulfilling prophecy — encouraging his listeners to take action against their government and fellow countrymen to help ensure that the Obama administration is ineffective and unable to lead or repair the damage done during the Bush administration (ironically which, through incessant repetition of well-orchestrated lies and misstatements, he is responsible for enabling). This is obviously to the detriment of the health of the nation, and serves no benefit except to Limbaugh’s ego and bank account.

I urge anybody reading this to write to their Senators and demand that Rush Limbaugh be tried for Treason on the highest level. Of course people are entitled to their freedom of speech, but his statements from today are well-beyond that. Given Limbaugh’s powerful control over his listenership (with “Operation Chaos” he actually managed to convince thousands of conservative Republicans to vote for Hillary Clinton in the run up to the Democratic primary – need more be said?), they are the mark of a systematic attempt to propel the dissolution of the United States, for the most petty and evil of reasons (ego and money, respectively).

The U.S. penalty for treason is death.. Or imprisonment for 5 years and/or a $10,000 fine… However, I believe the latter would be a completely ineffective remedy for Mr. Limbaugh’s behavioral problem. As long as Rush is allowed to continue coordinating mass subversion and ill-will against the President, our enemies will find solace in his words, and he will remain their aide and abetter, regardless of the massively ironic implications of all this.

(1)”Brainwashing (also known as thought reform or re-education) consists of any effort aimed at instilling certain attitudes and beliefs in a person (editor’s e.g., that conservatism is inherently better than liberalism) — beliefs sometimes unwelcome or in conflict with the person’s prior beliefs and knowledge, in order to affect that individual’s value system and subsequent thought-patterns and behaviors.” (Dorland’s Medical Dictionary for Healthcare Consumers, 2007)

Below is a list of commonly employed brainwashing and mind control techniques collected from various sources around the internet, several of which are used by Mr. Limbaugh on a daily basis:

HYPNOSIS - Inducing a high state of suggestibility, often thinly disguised as relaxation or meditation.

a. Repetitive Music (most likely with a beat close to the human heart 45 to 72 beats per minute). (The Rush Limbaugh Program’s opening theme, “Back to Ohio” by the Pretenders, is ~60 bpms… examples like this can be found in Rush’s program for ALL of the techniques described below…)

b. Voice Roll — A “voice roll” is a patterned, paced style used by hypnotists when inducing a trance. It is also used by many lawyers, several of whom are highly trained hypnotists, when they desire to entrench a point firmly in the minds of the jurors. A voice roll can sound as if the speaker were talking to the beat of a metronome or it may sound as though he were emphasizing every word in a monotonous, patterned style. The words will usually be delivered at the rate of 45 to 60 beats per minute, maximizing the hypnotic effect.

PEER GROUP PRESSURE - Suppressing doubt and resistance to new ideas by exploiting the need to belong.

“LOVE BOMBING” - Creating a sense of family through physical touch, thought & feeling sharing and emotional bonding.

CONFUSING DOCTRINE - Encouraging blind acceptance and rejection of logic through complex lectures on an incomprehensible doctrine.

METACOMMUNICATION - Implanting subliminal messages by stressing certain key words or phrases in long, confusing lectures.

DISINHIBITION - Encouraging child-like obedience by orchestrating child-like behavior.

VERBAL ABUSE - Desensitizing through bombardment with foul and abusive language.

CHANTING OR SINGING - Eliminating non-cult ideas through group repetition of mind-narrowing chants or phrases.

FINGER POINTING - Creating a false sense of righteousness by pointing to the shortcomings of the outside world.

CONTROLLED APPROVAL - Maintaining vulnerability and confusion by alternately rewarding and punishing similar actions.

NO QUESTIONS - Accomplishing automatic acceptance of beliefs by discouraging questions.

FEAR - Maintaining loyalty and obedience to the group by threatening soul, life or limb for the slightest ‘negative’ thought, word or deed.
luvwith 9 months ago
I don't think a single episode goes by where he doesn't promote discontent or rebellion.

Sedition is the stirring up of rebellion against the government in power.

Does that not fit?
luvwith 9 months ago
Without instant runoff voting it's a moot point.
luvwith 9 months ago
What do you think the chances of this passing are...with corporations being the biggest donors in washington? We need public financing of campaigns. None of this other stuff happens without it.

VOTE HERE:
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3989-4049

PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
luvwith 9 months ago
What do you think the chances of this passing are...with Pharmaceutical being some of the biggest donors in washington? We need public financing of campaigns. None of this other stuff happens without it.

VOTE HERE:
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3989-4049

PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
luvwith 9 months ago
What do you think the chances of this passing are...with banks being some of the biggest donors in washington? We need public financing of campaigns. None of this other stuff happens without it.

VOTE HERE:
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3989-4049

PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
luvwith 9 months ago
What do you think the chances of this passing are...with Pharmaceutical being some of the biggest donors in washington? We need public financing of campaigns. None of this other stuff happens without it.

VOTE HERE:
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3989-4049

PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
luvwith 9 months ago
What do you think the chances of this passing are...with Pharmaceutical being some of the biggest donors in washington? We need public financing of campaigns. None of this other stuff happens without it.

VOTE HERE:
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3989-4049

PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
luvwith 9 months ago
What do you think the chances of this passing are...with Pharmaceutical being some of the biggest donors in washington? We need public financing of campaigns. None of this other stuff happens without it.

VOTE HERE:
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3989-4049

PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
luvwith 9 months ago
PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCING

We must have public financing of campaigns. I know you think you don't want to pay for it...but you already ARE!

You pay hundreds and thousands of times what you would if the politicians actually answered to you and not greedy corporate criminals. You pay thousands of times more in a CORRUPTION SURCHARGE!


YOU PAY FOR PRIVATELY FUNDED ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW!

Every no bid contract, every unpaid royalty on an oil lease, every blocked piece of legislation, every blocked investigation, every effort to get healthcare for all, every blocked attempt for a living wage, every needless nuclear warhead that will never be used, every mountaintop removal mining permit OK’d, every case of cancer caused by lax environmental rules or enforcement, every prison built instead of a school...YOU PAY AND PAY AND PAY!

And to add insult to injury, where do corporations get the money they give politicians in order to insure they can roll right over you whenever they want? FROM YOU! The cost of these payoffs is passed on to YOU the consumer!


THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY!

Whatever you think is the most important issue facing the country…forget about it. It’s going to be decided in favor of those in power. It will be watered down in favor of those who finance campaigns and control corporate media sources.

You think the health care debate is going to come out in your favor or Pfizer’s? You think we are really going to cut military spending when more than half of the military budget for the entire world is being lavished on some of the biggest campaign contributors there are? How about Bank reform? Wall Street? Big Pharma? Iraq? The environment? Just exactly how do you see any of that working out in your favor in our current system?

Our system is broken. Our government does not work for the people. It works for – or in fear of – people who can spend a lot of money, access a lot of media, or have a lot of power in society.


IT’S THE MODERATES!

What people don’t understand is that it is not necessary to buy off the whole government in order for corporate, big money interests to get its way…every time. You merely need to control either the moderates and/or the committee heads in order to assure that whatever compromise is reached it will ALWAYS benefit BIG MONEY!

In Congress, you have partisans on either side, in safe districts, with entrenched interests who won’t compromise and are at no risk of being voted out.

Then you have the folks in the purple districts. They could get the ax anytime. Their elections could come down to which candidate has a few thousand more to spend. If Big Money goes their way they stay, if it goes to their opponent they are out.

These are the people you count on to forge the compromise between the two extremes and these are the very people who are most vulnerable to big money coming in hard and heavy against them.


COMPROMISE IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF BIG MONEY!

The current system assures that any compromise between the partisan extremes will be concluded in favor of big money. Even the most conscientious moderate politician in a contested state MUST cater to big money or they will not stay in congress.


WHAT HAPPENED TO CONGRESS?

Do you wonder what has happened to democrats in congress over the last 8 years…the spinelessness and cowardice evidenced by these people?

This is the result of what happens to an organization over time when anyone who fights big money gets weeded out…even if it’s only one or two per election. Eventually you are left with …well, what we have now…a bunch of corporate lap dogs.
luvwith 9 months ago
This is not gonna happen without public financing of campaigns. They are not going to get rid of their ability to pad bills with giveaways for their contributors until we finance campaigns through taxpayer budgets instead of corporate budgets.

Please vote for PUBLIC CAMPAIGN FINANCE

http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/3989-4049
luvwith 9 months ago
A GEM FROM JOSEPH LYLES



You love your country so much . . .

You doubled the debt your country owes to wealthy bond holders and foreigners.

You mortgaged the future of all our children and grandchildren to potential enemies like Communist China.

You allowed good American manufacturing jobs to be outsourced to third world cheap labor cesspools.

You think American workers ought to have the same "generous" wages, benefits, and working conditions as those furnished third world workers by you corporate cronies.

Allowed unregulated speculators -- starting with Ken Lay and Enron -- to ruthlessly gouge American energy consumers, crippling our economy in the process.

Allowed unregulated speculators in the mortgage market to bankrupt our financial system, causing millions of foreclosures.

Bailed out the lenders who lost money in the mortgage crisis, then you refused any such assistance to the ordinary American consumers wiped out by this disaster.

Allowed American corporations to escape Federal taxes by hiding their money in places like the Cayman Islands. We're still waiting for that wealth to "trickle back" to America.

Created the most expensive health system in the world -- paid for by the skyrocketing insurance premiums of middle class Americans.

Allowed 47 million people -- in a country with the most expensive healthcare system in the world -- to do without adequate healthcare.

Allowed life expectancy in the US to drop to 42nd in the world -- having the world's most expensive healthcare system.

Hired a "horse lawyer" to manage the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the very agency that would respond to a "terrorist attack."

Ate birthday cake while Hurricane Katrina destroyed New Orleans -- after the National Hurricane Center forecast the disaster at least 48 hours in advance.

When presented with a report, on August 6, 2001 entitled "Al Qaeda Determined To Attack Inside The United States," you ignored the warning and allowed bin Ladin to attack inside the United States.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you allowed the mastermind of the attack to escape justice -- to this day.

Having allowed the mastermind of that attack to escape justice, you set up a concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay, and sought to deny the inmates there of even the most basic due process of law.

You have supported the use of torture by both American and foreign governments against such heinous criminals as Osama bin Ladin's driver. Bin Ladin himself, remains at large.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you immediately started using that attack to justify war on a country that had nothing to do with the attack.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you used the specter of an attack using chemical, biological, and even nuclear weapons, to win public support for a needless war that has killed over 4000 American soldiers. [We won't bother discussing the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed in that war. You don't care about them.]

Having successfully lied to Americans about a non-existent threat of weapons of mass destruction, and furthermore, having false suggested a connection between Iraq and the terrorist attack -- the one you were warned about 35 days before it happened . . . you ignored American generals who said you would need a minimum of 500,000 troops to carry out a successful post-invasion occupation of that country.

Instead, you sent in Paul Bremer to fire a half million employees of the Iraqi government -- driving them into the ranks of the insurgency.

You are utterly unwilling to pay the taxes necessary to finance that misbegotten and mismanaged war.

You are utterly unwilling to make ANY sacrifice in support of either the war in Iraq or the so-called "war on terror."

You opposed giving veterans of the present "war" GI Bill benefits those we gave veterans of World War II.

While appearing to be utterly unconcerned about a trillion dollar war based on propaganda and deception, utterly unconcerned about 400 billion dollars in interest payments on the national debt, utterly unconcerned about record profits earned by American oil companies, utterly unconcerned about skyrocketing health insurance premiums, you are outraged -- outraged -- whenever you hear that some brown baby in an American inner city got a milk bottle on your dime.

You would force millions of American women to have unwanted children . . .

. . . then howl to heavens when your tax money is used provide those same unwanted children with basic nutrition and healthcare.

Did I mention that you are utterly unconcerned about the trillion dollars we've wasted in Iraq or the 400 billion dollars we spend in interest payments on the national debt?

You'll put up with just about any waste of money, as long as we're not feeding or housing anyone with it.

Awarded tax cuts to the richest Americans, allowed corporations to outsource jobs to the third world, sent America's sons to die in Iraq, indebted America's children and grandchildren, and then -- get this -- positioned yourselves as "champions of ordinary people."

Having bankrupted the country, destroyed it's manufacturing base, shamed the country with the use of torture and our very own version of an American Gulag, cut taxes on the richest Americans, and supervised the most grossly unequal distribution of wealth in American history, you are asking Americans to support four more years of your misrule, using lies, smears, and vacuous symbolism and imagery.

Indeed, you are fighting like caged animals to win, win, win at any cost -- regardless of how sorry your record has been for the past 8 years.

Having bankrupted the country, destroyed it's manufacturing base, shamed the country with the use of torture and our very own version of an American Gulag, cut taxes on the richest Americans, and supervised the most grossly unequal distribution of wealth in American history -- and now fighting like caged animals to win another term in the White House to CONTINUE this abuse of the American people -- you now have the nerve to challenge the patriotism of your opponents in this election.

All I can say is that "patriotism is as patriotism does." If you do indeed love America -- which keep telling us -- well, I have to wonder how much more of your "love" America can stand.
luvwith 9 months ago
A GEM FROM JOSEPH LYLES



You love your country so much . . .

You doubled the debt your country owes to wealthy bond holders and foreigners.

You mortgaged the future of all our children and grandchildren to potential enemies like Communist China.

You allowed good American manufacturing jobs to be outsourced to third world cheap labor cesspools.

You think American workers ought to have the same "generous" wages, benefits, and working conditions as those furnished third world workers by you corporate cronies.

Allowed unregulated speculators -- starting with Ken Lay and Enron -- to ruthlessly gouge American energy consumers, crippling our economy in the process.

Allowed unregulated speculators in the mortgage market to bankrupt our financial system, causing millions of foreclosures.

Bailed out the lenders who lost money in the mortgage crisis, then you refused any such assistance to the ordinary American consumers wiped out by this disaster.

Allowed American corporations to escape Federal taxes by hiding their money in places like the Cayman Islands. We're still waiting for that wealth to "trickle back" to America.

Created the most expensive health system in the world -- paid for by the skyrocketing insurance premiums of middle class Americans.

Allowed 47 million people -- in a country with the most expensive healthcare system in the world -- to do without adequate healthcare.

Allowed life expectancy in the US to drop to 42nd in the world -- having the world's most expensive healthcare system.

Hired a "horse lawyer" to manage the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the very agency that would respond to a "terrorist attack."

Ate birthday cake while Hurricane Katrina destroyed New Orleans -- after the National Hurricane Center forecast the disaster at least 48 hours in advance.

When presented with a report, on August 6, 2001 entitled "Al Qaeda Determined To Attack Inside The United States," you ignored the warning and allowed bin Ladin to attack inside the United States.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you allowed the mastermind of the attack to escape justice -- to this day.

Having allowed the mastermind of that attack to escape justice, you set up a concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay, and sought to deny the inmates there of even the most basic due process of law.

You have supported the use of torture by both American and foreign governments against such heinous criminals as Osama bin Ladin's driver. Bin Ladin himself, remains at large.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you immediately started using that attack to justify war on a country that had nothing to do with the attack.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you used the specter of an attack using chemical, biological, and even nuclear weapons, to win public support for a needless war that has killed over 4000 American soldiers. [We won't bother discussing the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed in that war. You don't care about them.]

Having successfully lied to Americans about a non-existent threat of weapons of mass destruction, and furthermore, having false suggested a connection between Iraq and the terrorist attack -- the one you were warned about 35 days before it happened . . . you ignored American generals who said you would need a minimum of 500,000 troops to carry out a successful post-invasion occupation of that country.

Instead, you sent in Paul Bremer to fire a half million employees of the Iraqi government -- driving them into the ranks of the insurgency.

You are utterly unwilling to pay the taxes necessary to finance that misbegotten and mismanaged war.

You are utterly unwilling to make ANY sacrifice in support of either the war in Iraq or the so-called "war on terror."

You opposed giving veterans of the present "war" GI Bill benefits those we gave veterans of World War II.

While appearing to be utterly unconcerned about a trillion dollar war based on propaganda and deception, utterly unconcerned about 400 billion dollars in interest payments on the national debt, utterly unconcerned about record profits earned by American oil companies, utterly unconcerned about skyrocketing health insurance premiums, you are outraged -- outraged -- whenever you hear that some brown baby in an American inner city got a milk bottle on your dime.

You would force millions of American women to have unwanted children . . .

. . . then howl to heavens when your tax money is used provide those same unwanted children with basic nutrition and healthcare.

Did I mention that you are utterly unconcerned about the trillion dollars we've wasted in Iraq or the 400 billion dollars we spend in interest payments on the national debt?

You'll put up with just about any waste of money, as long as we're not feeding or housing anyone with it.

Awarded tax cuts to the richest Americans, allowed corporations to outsource jobs to the third world, sent America's sons to die in Iraq, indebted America's children and grandchildren, and then -- get this -- positioned yourselves as "champions of ordinary people."

Having bankrupted the country, destroyed it's manufacturing base, shamed the country with the use of torture and our very own version of an American Gulag, cut taxes on the richest Americans, and supervised the most grossly unequal distribution of wealth in American history, you are asking Americans to support four more years of your misrule, using lies, smears, and vacuous symbolism and imagery.

Indeed, you are fighting like caged animals to win, win, win at any cost -- regardless of how sorry your record has been for the past 8 years.

Having bankrupted the country, destroyed it's manufacturing base, shamed the country with the use of torture and our very own version of an American Gulag, cut taxes on the richest Americans, and supervised the most grossly unequal distribution of wealth in American history -- and now fighting like caged animals to win another term in the White House to CONTINUE this abuse of the American people -- you now have the nerve to challenge the patriotism of your opponents in this election.

All I can say is that "patriotism is as patriotism does." If you do indeed love America -- which keep telling us -- well, I have to wonder how much more of your "love" America can stand.
luvwith 9 months ago
A GEM FROM JOSEPH LYLES



You love your country so much . . .

You doubled the debt your country owes to wealthy bond holders and foreigners.

You mortgaged the future of all our children and grandchildren to potential enemies like Communist China.

You allowed good American manufacturing jobs to be outsourced to third world cheap labor cesspools.

You think American workers ought to have the same "generous" wages, benefits, and working conditions as those furnished third world workers by you corporate cronies.

Allowed unregulated speculators -- starting with Ken Lay and Enron -- to ruthlessly gouge American energy consumers, crippling our economy in the process.

Allowed unregulated speculators in the mortgage market to bankrupt our financial system, causing millions of foreclosures.

Bailed out the lenders who lost money in the mortgage crisis, then you refused any such assistance to the ordinary American consumers wiped out by this disaster.

Allowed American corporations to escape Federal taxes by hiding their money in places like the Cayman Islands. We're still waiting for that wealth to "trickle back" to America.

Created the most expensive health system in the world -- paid for by the skyrocketing insurance premiums of middle class Americans.

Allowed 47 million people -- in a country with the most expensive healthcare system in the world -- to do without adequate healthcare.

Allowed life expectancy in the US to drop to 42nd in the world -- having the world's most expensive healthcare system.

Hired a "horse lawyer" to manage the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the very agency that would respond to a "terrorist attack."

Ate birthday cake while Hurricane Katrina destroyed New Orleans -- after the National Hurricane Center forecast the disaster at least 48 hours in advance.

When presented with a report, on August 6, 2001 entitled "Al Qaeda Determined To Attack Inside The United States," you ignored the warning and allowed bin Ladin to attack inside the United States.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you allowed the mastermind of the attack to escape justice -- to this day.

Having allowed the mastermind of that attack to escape justice, you set up a concentration camp at Guantanamo Bay, and sought to deny the inmates there of even the most basic due process of law.

You have supported the use of torture by both American and foreign governments against such heinous criminals as Osama bin Ladin's driver. Bin Ladin himself, remains at large.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you immediately started using that attack to justify war on a country that had nothing to do with the attack.

Having done nothing to prevent an attack about which you were warned 35 days earlier, you used the specter of an attack using chemical, biological, and even nuclear weapons, to win public support for a needless war that has killed over 4000 American soldiers. [We won't bother discussing the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed in that war. You don't care about them.]

Having successfully lied to Americans about a non-existent threat of weapons of mass destruction, and furthermore, having false suggested a connection between Iraq and the terrorist attack -- the one you were warned about 35 days before it happened . . . you ignored American generals who said you would need a minimum of 500,000 troops to carry out a successful post-invasion occupation of that country.

Instead, you sent in Paul Bremer to fire a half million employees of the Iraqi government -- driving them into the ranks of the insurgency.

You are utterly unwilling to pay the taxes necessary to finance that misbegotten and mismanaged war.

You are utterly unwilling to make ANY sacrifice in support of either the war in Iraq or the so-called "war on terror."

You opposed giving veterans of the present "war" GI Bill benefits those we gave veterans of World War II.

While appearing to be utterly unconcerned about a trillion dollar war based on propaganda and deception, utterly unconcerned about 400 billion dollars in interest payments on the national debt, utterly unconcerned about record profits earned by American oil companies, utterly unconcerned about skyrocketing health insurance premiums, you are outraged -- outraged -- whenever you hear that some brown baby in an American inner city got a milk bottle on your dime.

You would force millions of American women to have unwanted children . . .

. . . then howl to heavens when your tax money is used provide those same unwanted children with basic nutrition and healthcare.

Did I mention that you are utterly unconcerned about the trillion dollars we've wasted in Iraq or the 400 billion dollars we spend in interest payments on the national debt?

You'll put up with just about any waste of money, as long as we're not feeding or housing anyone with it.

Awarded tax cuts to the richest Americans, allowed corporations to outsource jobs to the third world, sent America's sons to die in Iraq, indebted America's children and grandchildren, and then -- get this -- positioned yourselves as "champions of ordinary people."

Having bankrupted the country, destroyed it's manufacturing base, shamed the country with the use of torture and our very own version of an American Gulag, cut taxes on the richest Americans, and supervised the most grossly unequal distribution of wealth in American history, you are asking Americans to support four more years of your misrule, using lies, smears, and vacuous symbolism and imagery.

Indeed, you are fighting like caged animals to win, win, win at any cost -- regardless of how sorry your record has been for the past 8 years.

Having bankrupted the country, destroyed it's manufacturing base, shamed the country with the use of torture and our very own version of an American Gulag, cut taxes on the richest Americans, and supervised the most grossly unequal distribution of wealth in American history -- and now fighting like caged animals to win another term in the White House to CONTINUE this abuse of the American people -- you now have the nerve to challenge the patriotism of your opponents in this election.

All I can say is that "patriotism is as patriotism does." If you do indeed love America -- which keep telling us -- well, I have to wonder how much more of your "love" America can stand.
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy
#2) Truman
#3) Clinton
#4) Reagan
#5) Carter
#6) Eisenhower
#7) Nixon
#8) Bush 1
#9) Bush 2
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY


Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
GEORGE W BUSH WAS THE GREATEST REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT EVER!

Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.



What did he do to deserve this title?


Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...


There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.


What did we get?


Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term
(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression



It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.
luvwith 9 months ago
How unsurprising that no self-servative republicans had anything to say about the results of thier handi-work.
luvwith 9 months ago
Media Matters backs up their asserions with objective data. It is fact based, not metaphysical.

Rush doesn't defend his positions. He doesn't go on Hardball or meet the press or the daily show OR ANYWHERE where he might be cross-examined.

That's how you know he is a lying sack. That and he can't go three sentances without contradicting himself.
luvwith 9 months ago
ACORN

Employees were contracted by Acorn and were paid by the signature. They were accused of REGISTERING people who didn't exist so that THE INDIVIDUALS could make more MONEY!

Not a single fraudulent vote by Acorn was ever proven to have been cast...not a single one. If there had been, it would have been the lead story of every FOX show for a MONTH! So you can be pretty sure that doesn't exist.

On the other hand THE STATE GOVERNMENT in Florida purged 40,000 registrations in heavily democratic, minority COUNTIES. If it was a statewide problem requiring the intervention of THE STATE GOVERNMENT then why was it only done in some counties and not others?

There, I have proven the ACORN argument bogus. It is no longer an issue, right. OH, HELL NO!!

These knuckle draggers just saw me PROVE that the ACORN stuff is a bunch of BULL! So we'll never see any of these clowns weeping about ACORN anymore right? Give me a break.

These guys won't wait 5 minutes before they're back spewing the crap I just proved was BOGUS...These people don't care about truth.
luvwith 9 months ago
ACORN

Employees were contracted by Acorn and were paid by the signature. They were accused of REGISTERING people who didn't exist so that THE INDIVIDUALS could make more MONEY!

Not a single fraudulent vote by Acorn was ever proven to have been cast...not a single one. If there had been, it would have been the lead story of every FOX show for a MONTH! So you can be pretty sure that doesn't exist.

On the other hand THE STATE GOVERNMENT in Florida purged 40,000 registrations in heavily democratic, minority COUNTIES. If it was a statewide problem requiring the intervention of THE STATE GOVERNMENT then why was it only done in some counties and not others?

There, I have proven the ACORN argument bogus. It is no longer an issue, right. OH, HELL NO!!

These knuckle draggers just saw me PROVE that the ACORN stuff is a bunch of BULL! So we'll never see any of these clowns weeping about ACORN anymore right? Give me a break.

These guys won't wait 5 minutes before they're back spewing the crap I just proved was BOGUS...These people don't care about truth.
luvwith 9 months ago
ACORN

Employees were contracted by Acorn and were paid by the signature. They were accused of REGISTERING people who didn't exist so that THE INDIVIDUALS could make more MONEY!

Not a single fraudulent vote by Acorn was ever proven to have been cast...not a single one. If there had been, it would have been the lead story of every FOX show for a MONTH! So you can be pretty sure that doesn't exist.

On the other hand THE STATE GOVERNMENT in Florida purged 40,000 registrations in heavily democratic, minority COUNTIES. If it was a statewide problem requiring the intervention of THE STATE GOVERNMENT then why was it only done in some counties and not others?

There, I have proven the ACORN argument bogus. It is no longer an issue, right. OH, HELL NO!!

These knuckle draggers just saw me PROVE that the ACORN stuff is a bunch of BULL! So we'll never see any of these clowns weeping about ACORN anymore right? Give me a break.

These guy won't wait 5 minutes before they're back spewing the crap I just proved was BOGUS...The people don't care about truth.
luvwith 9 months ago
You knuckleheads are finally posting on a single post...and your getting creamed 1900 to 900.

Get used to losing.
luvwith 9 months ago
Twitchy:

Sure. That explains everything. It explains why all the conservative presidents presided over only moderately disasterous, stagnant, low-growth, high unemployment economies, and not a complete meltdown of the world economy that 8 years of George Bush got us.
luvwith 9 months ago
phylmike34:

"libturds are the ones who act childish silly idiot,dont you realize that,they dont care about anything but themseves and who is gonna do for them,like little selfish kids who want it their way or they get upset and pitch a fit"

Wow! Where does one begin with the ignorance there. Way to inspire bipartisanship and respect.

"libturds are the ones who act childish silly idiot,"

Dude I almost feel bad for you. Are you a little slow?

Oh, wait..you're a kid aren't you. Nevermind. You're probably 10 years old and that age appropriate grammar for you. Keep trying son. You'll be able to write soon. Don't give up.

And if you are older than ten there's nothing to be ashamed of about riding on the little bus, you just keep on truckin' and no more eating pennies OK?
luvwith 9 months ago
wmdavis:

You seem very confused as too what the liberal position on free speech is. I'll spell it out for you with emphasis on the key words so that even a conservative will understand. It goes like this:

GOVERNMENT shall not pass any LAWS abridging the freedom of speech.

That doesn't mean that if you call a black person a ni&&er in front of me I'm not going to get in your face and call you an ignorant piece of crap, and it doesn't mean that if you walk into a college biology class and say the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaur bones are a commie plot to undermine the Bible, that you are not going to be ostracized and have people think your a kook.

No one is going to look you up for believing the way you do, but it is our right to use the freedom of speech to ridicule you for being ignorant retard. And liberals don't think that right should go away either.

The founding fathers lived in a world where political discussion where people gathered in the town square to talk about politics. It was not possible for and single entity to control the debate to the extent that it is today.

The first amendment worked because every voice had the chance to be heard, and the ones who made the best argument won the day.

We have a dangerous, self-destructive situation in which the corporate media can drown out any person giving better solutions to world problems just by sheer volume of repetition of weak ideas. There is no ability for the best ideas to come out.

When was the last time you heard a libertarian on TV, how about a green party official, how about a natural law party representative, an anarchist? a socialist? (I mean a real one?) a communist? When was the last time you got the point of view of a fascist?

Why are we so afraid of theses voices? If our ideas are better, then having them voice their thoughts should not threaten us so. If our ideas are not better, maybe we will incorporate some better ideas into our platform to make them stand up to the light of scrutiny and debate.

This is why the conservative movement is so abrasive...so ham-handed...so cave-manish. They are afraid and angry. They can't defend the failed ideology but are not mature enough to really explore which aspects of conservatism are worth salvaging and which belong on the trashpile of history. That demands self examination in place of finger pointing...it demands seeing shades of grey and not just black and white.
luvwith 9 months ago
Twitchy:
I've posted ideas. I've defended them rationally. I've engaged...and I've gotten not one serious intellectual argument from even ONE single conservative here out of hundreds I have engaged.

If you believe what you say...then YOU be the guy who engages as an adult. Give us the one conservative issue YOU believe you can defend under scrutiny. Or else resign yourself to the fact that conservative ideology is factually and intellectually bankrupt as I have.
luvwith 9 months ago
americana:

"If by work together, you mean acquiesce to every demand and desire the liberals have, to roll over and accept and embrace ideologies destructive and alien to America"

OK here is where you insert the ideologies that are "alien" to America in order to bolster your argument...next...


then I have no intention to put up and shut up. The vaunted "mandate for change" entails only 53% of the country (including bogus ACORN votes).

OK, this is a bogus debate tactic called:

- Slippery slope. The idea that one action will lead to a secondary effect that is not a direct cause of the original action. "If we allow abortion in the first weeks of pregnancy, it will be impossible to stop abortions of full-term infants", or, "The state should allow abortion in even the ninth month because otherwise, they will be telling us what we can't do around the time of conception." Both suggested changes are effects of an effect. There is no reason to believe either conclusion.

Employees were contracted by Acorn who were paid by the signature. They were accused of REGISTERING people who didn't exist so THE INDIVIDUALS could make more MONEY! Not a single fraudulent vote by Acorn was ever proved to have been cast...not a single one. If there had been, it would have been the lead story of every FOX show for a MONTH! So you can be pretty sure that doesn't exist.

On the other hand THE STATE GOVERNMENT in Florida purged 40,000 registrations in heavily democratic, minority COUNTIES. If it was a statewide problem requiring the intervention of THE STATE GOVERNMENT then why was it only done in some counties and not others?

There, I have proven the ACORN argument bogus. It is no longer an issue, right. OH, HELL NO!!

These knuckle draggers just saw me PROVE that the ACORN stuff is a bunch of BULL! So we'll never see any of these clowns weeping about ACORN anymore right? Give me a break. These guy won't wait 5 minute before they're back spewing the crap I just proved was BOGUS...The people don't care about truth.


"That means at least 47% of the country (plus a growing number of those who were caught up in the feeling and moment of making history)."

US? You voted for HUSSEIN?

"He is getting ready to tax health-benefits (which his campaign eviscerated McCain for allegedly wanting to do), he has spent trillions of dollars"

Let me guess. You're one of those "principled conservatives" who thought it was just terrible how bush spent all that money fighting "Tarrarism" right?

"we do not have, and we are well on the way to multi-generational bankruptcy."

Every single republican since Nixon has run record deficits. Every single one. Not a single democratic administration has done so during the same period. Argument OVER! YOU LOSE.

Will you admit that republicans run higher deficits and manage government LESS efficiently than democrats now that I have verifiable proof that it is so? Hell no!!!

You think it's not true because you don't want it to be true and conservatives only believe facts that bolster THEIR arguments.

So will you and all the other knuckleheads here stop whining about the deficit and accept responsibility or else go look at the statistics and prove me wrong? NOPE! You'll be right back at it on the next post. You don't care if you're right. You just don't care.

"We will stand up, we will dissent and we will oppose with the ballot, with the internet, with the speech and every other legit means of discourse in this still great country."

OK, we know you are against Obama...but can you put even ONE issue on the table that is part of the conservative platform that you are capable of defending? JUST ONE!

luvwith 9 months ago
"luvwith - you obviously have not 1 idea. Just sit there and keep attacking and hiding behind your little keyboard."


You say I don't have one idea...and then you claim I am attack YOU. Don't you see the irony in that at ALL? The level of ignorance is astounding.

OK here's an idea. Lets regulate wall street and enfore the environmental laws that Bush ignored his entire time in office.

OK? There's an idea. Either give me some facts about why that's a bad idea or come up with one of your own that YOU are capable of defending.

If you come up with a fair criticism of my idea I'll listen and accept your viewpoint of disprove it.

Now let's hear your idea.
luvwith 9 months ago
hey render:

"Repeating themselves over and over and not engaging in intellectual discussion."

Could you please point out the intellectual discussion section of your post?
luvwith 9 months ago
"I never acted like that when I was a child because I was not a spoiled brat. My parents played by the book to start with and I knew what they said goes."

When did they get the chance to "play by the book" if you were such a perfect child?

Leave it to a conservative to not be able tocomplete a single sentance without contradicting themselves.
luvwith 9 months ago
I like free speech. I'm not particularly interested in having my time wasted if someone is not going to advocate thier own position or even state a position they advocate.

People have been calling all kinds of names here...but still not one person here has advocated a coservative policy and defended it.

What are YOU GUYS afraid of?
luvwith 9 months ago
OK, you still haven't defended a right wing policy. That would be adult would it not?
luvwith 9 months ago
OK, WHERE IS THE ADULT DEFENSE OF ANY CONSERVATIVE POLICY?
luvwith 9 months ago
It's funny how the wing nuts are all about using the constitution as a weapon when it suits them and ignoring it when it protects people from torture, indefinite detention and warrantless surveilance.
luvwith 9 months ago
List of Improper Debating Tactics, AVOID THESE.

- Ad hominem. Latin for "at the man". This is a debating tactic that attacks the arguer and not the argument. PLEASE, debate the words that people post, not your idea ABOUT the person that posts. e.g., "member x is a liberal so his objections to the Iraqi war will obviously be unfounded," or ,"member x is a conservative, so he is obviously a warmonger". More directly, "Mr. Smith is an imbecile, therefore all of his arguments are false."
luvwith 9 months ago
So after all of that childishness, what conservative policy did you advocate? GO TO YOUR ROOM!
luvwith 9 months ago
OK, aosterhout:

Just for you...just this once. I won't call you childish, and I'll treat you with respect.

Now name me one convervative issue you think you can defend in a rational way, as an adult, with facts, without resorting to any of the debating tactics that I just laid out and let's have an adult discusion.

But if you go back to being a crybaby you have to go back to your romm for a timeout until you can behave like an adult again.
luvwith 9 months ago
Twitchy, you said:

"Yes, they are acting like children, but they are not representative of conservatives as a whole."

I'm sorry twitchy, but they ARE representative of conservatives as a whole. They really ARE!

There is absolutely nothing I love MORE than engaging an intelligent, educated, critical thinking conservative on conserative policies. I crush them EVERY time, because conservative policies are INDEFENSABLE without resorting to straw man arguments and name calling and hyperbole and obfuscation and omission and denial and rationalisation.

And when someone can recognize these tactics and call them out for what they are, conservative arguments fall apart.

A conservative who has self awareness and intelligence and is not too insecure and threatened to discuss issues as an adult and examine their own views without falling back on these childish tactics is a liberal...they just haven't figured it out yet.

It has been YEARS since I have found ANY conservative willing to do that. I certainly have not found them here.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
Let me guess. All the dead people have "ethnic" sounding names. Dead white people are OK.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for “birther” conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago
When I was a child, and I acted like a spoiled 5 year old and I whined and stamped my feet and DEMANDED attention because I didn’t get my way…my parents sent me to my room. And I’d holler and wail and stamp my feet until I realized that I would not be invited back to participate with the adults and have my voice heard until I changed my behavior and quit acting like an ass.

I could stamp my feet all I wanted, and nobody cared…because I was acting like a rotten little creep and no one wanted me around. When I got tired of being excluded from adult conversation I told my parents I was sorry and that I was ready to be a part of the discussion again.

We would talk and I would express my needs and they would listen. Sometimes I would get the things I’d ask for and sometimes they would explain to me why I wasn’t going to get things the way I wanted them, but they would be respectful and consider my wants.

It’s time for conservatives to be sent to their room and ignored. To be left out of the conversation by the adults until they are willing to quit making demands and screaming and stomping their feet…to be sent to their rooms until they are willing to work WITH their family members to make a pleasant, peaceful and respectful home for all of us…instead of dominating the environment with selfish, childish pettiness.
luvwith 9 months ago

Absolutely. It is clear from this forum and the BC kooks here, that education and critical thought are woefully lacking in our country and our democracy is at risk from fascism, not by Obama, but of people who aren't even educated enough to know that fascism is a right wing ideology.
luvwith 9 months ago
If there were a 200mpg carburator, (or another completely non-polluting technology altogether) how much do you think the oil companies would pay to see it go away?

They have hundreds of billions of dollars at their disposal and absolutely no law to stop them. Do you really think they wouldn't go to ANY length to protect their situation?
luvwith 9 months ago
Conservatives, constantly doing reprehensible things we need to apologize for is what needs to stop.

We need to see to it that conservatives NEVER regain power. Because THIS is how they operate.
luvwith 9 months ago
One is from an army hospital from a different year. Is there no lengths that are beneath these people to undermine the will of the American people.

We need to see to it that conservatives NEVER regain power. Because THIS is how they operate.
luvwith 9 months ago
One is from an army hospital from a different year. Is there no lengths that are beneath these people to undermine the will of the American people.

We need to see to it that conservatives NEVER regain power. Because THIS is how they operate.
luvwith 9 months ago
60 days seems long.
luvwith 9 months ago
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.
Analysis
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.
Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."
Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


The raised seal


Blowup of text

You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.


Blowup of certificate number

Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:


Obama's birth announcement


The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

–by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller
Sources
United States Department of State. "Application for a U.S. Passport." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

State of Hawaii Department of Health. "Request for Certified Copy of Birth Record." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

Hollyfield, Amy. "Obama's Birth Certificate: Final Chapter." Politifact.com. 27 Jun. 2008.

The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.

Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.








luvwith 9 months ago
Right-Wing Ideology in a Nutshell



When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just "dime-store economics" – intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don't really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don't. It all gets down to two simple words.

"Cheap labor". That's their whole philosophy in a nutshell – which gives you a short and pithy "catch phrase" that describes them perfectly. You've heard of "big-government liberals". Well they're "cheap-labor conservatives".

"Cheap-labor conservative" is a moniker they will never shake, and never live down. Because it's exactly what they are. You see, cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America – whose fortunes depend on labor. The larger the labor supply, the cheaper it is. The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you'll work, and the more power those "corporate lords" have over you. If you are a wealthy elite – or a "wannabe" like most dittoheads – your wealth, power and privilege is enhanced by a labor pool, forced to work cheap.

Don't believe me. Well, let's apply this principle, and see how many right-wing positions become instantly understandable.
Cheap-labor conservatives don't like social spending or our "safety net". Why. Because when you're unemployed and desperate, corporations can pay you whatever they feel like – which is inevitably next to nothing. You see, they want you "over a barrel" and in a position to "work cheap or starve".

Cheap-labor conservatives don't like the minimum wage, or other improvements in wages and working conditions. Why. These reforms undo all of their efforts to keep you "over a barrel".
Cheap-labor conservatives like "free trade", NAFTA, GATT, etc. Why. Because there is a huge supply of desperately poor people in the third world, who are "over a barrel", and will work cheap.
Cheap-labor conservatives oppose a woman's right to choose. Why. Unwanted children are an economic burden that put poor women "over a barrel", forcing them to work cheap.
Cheap-labor conservatives don't like unions. Why. Because when labor "sticks together", wages go up. That's why workers unionize. Seems workers don't like being "over a barrel".
Cheap-labor conservatives constantly bray about "morality", "virtue", "respect for authority", "hard work" and other "values". Why. So they can blame your being "over a barrel" on your own "immorality", lack of "values" and "poor choices".
Cheap-labor conservatives encourage racism, misogyny, homophobia and other forms of bigotry. Why? Bigotry among wage earners distracts them, and keeps them from recognizing their common interests as wage earners.
The Cheap-Labor Conservative "Dirty Secret" : They Don't Really Like Prosperity


Maybe you don't believe that cheap-labor conservatives like unemployment, poverty and "cheap labor". Consider these facts.

Unemployment was 23 percent when FDR took office in 1933. It dropped to 2.5 percent by time the next Republican was in the White House in 1953. It climbed back to 6.5 percent by the end of the Eisenhower administration. It dropped to 3.5 percent by the time LBJ left office. It climbed over 5 percent shortly after Nixon took office, and stayed there for 27 years, until Clinton brought it down to 4.5 percent early in his second term.

That same period – especially from the late forties into the early seventies – was the "golden age" of the United States. We sent men to the moon. We built our Interstate Highway system. We ended segregation in the South and established Medicare. In those days, a single wage earner could support an entire family on his wages. I grew up then, and I will tell you that life was good – at least for the many Americans insulated from the tragedy in Vietnam, as I was.

These facts provide a nice background to evaluate cheap-labor conservative claims like "liberals are destroying America." In fact, cheap-labor conservatives have howled with outrage and indignation against New Deal liberalism from its inception in the 1930's all the way to the present. You can go to "Free Republic" or Hannity's forum right now, and find a cheap-labor conservative comparing New Deal Liberalism to "Stalinism".
Cheap-labor conservatives opposed virtually all of the New Deal, including every improvement in wages and working conditions.

Cheap-labor conservatives have a long and sorry history of opposing virtually every advancement in this country's development going right back to the American revolution.
Cheap-labor conservatives have hated Social Security and Medicare since their inception.
Many cheap-labor conservatives are hostile to public education. They think it should be privatized. But why are we surprised. Cheap-labor conservatives opposed universal public education in its early days. School vouchers are just a backdoor method to "resegregate" the public schools.
Cheap-labor conservatives hate the progressive income tax like the devil hates holy water.
Cheap-labor conservatives like budget deficits and a huge national debt for two reasons. A bankrupt government has a harder time doing any "social spending" – which cheap-labor conservatives oppose, and . . .
Wealthy cheap-labor conservatives like say, George W. Bush, buy the bonds and then earn tax free interest on the money they lend the government.[Check out Dubya's financial disclosures. The son of a bitch is a big holder of the T-bills that finance the deficit he is helping to expand.] The deficit created by cheap-labor conservatives while they posture as being "fiscally conservative" – may count as the biggest con job in American history.
"Free Trade", globalization, NAFTA and especially GATT are intended to create a world-wide "corporate playground" where national governments serve the interests of corporations – which means "cheap labor".

The ugly truth is that cheap-labor conservatives just don't like working people. They don't like "bottom up" prosperity, and the reason for it is very simple. lords have a harder time kicking them around. Once you understand this about the cheap-labor conservatives, the real motivation for their policies makes perfect sense. Remember, cheap-labor conservatives believe in social hierarchy and privilege, so the only prosperity they want is limited to them. They want to see absolutely nothing that benefits the guy – or more often the woman – who works for an hourly wage.

So there you have it, in one easy-to-remember phrase. See how easy it is to understand these cheap-labor conservatives. The more ignorant and destitute people there are – desperate for any job they can get – the cheaper the cheap-labor conservatives can get them to work.

Try it. Every time you respond to a cheap-labor conservative in letters to the editor, or an online discussion forum, look for the "cheap labor" angle. Trust me, you'll find it. I can even show you the "cheap labor" angle in things like the "war on drugs", and the absurd conservative opposition to alternative energy.

Next, make that moniker – cheap-labor conservatives – your "standard reference" to the other side. One of the last revisions I made to this article was to find every reference to "conservatives", "Republicans", "right-wingers", and "righties", and replace it with "cheap-labor conservatives". In fact, if you're a cheap-labor conservative reading this, you should be getting sick of that phrase right about now. Exxxxcellent.

If enough people will "get with the program", it won't be long before you can't look at an editorial page, listen to the radio, turn on the TV, or log onto your favorite message board without seeing the phrase "cheap labor conservatives" – and have plenty of examples to reinforce the message. By election day of 2004, every politically sentient American should understand exactly what a "cheap labor conservative" is, and what he stands for.

Now if you stop right here, you will have enough ammunition to hold your own with a cheap-labor conservative, in any public debate. You have your catch phrase, and you have some of the facts and history to give that phrase meaning.

But if you really want to rip the heart out of cheap-labor conservative ideology, you may want to invest just a little bit more effort. It still isn't all that complicated, though it is a bit more detailed than what we have covered so far.

To explore that detail, just click one of the links below.

Less Government and Cheap Labor.

The Public Sector and Private Fortunes.

Personal Responsibility and Wages.

For more detailed theoretical understanding, check out The Mythology of Wealth, or just browse through some of the articles in the sidebar.

Now go find some cheap labor conservatives, and pin that scarlet moniker on them.
LESS GOVERNMENT AND CHEAP LABOR



“Less Government” is the central defining right-wing slogan. And yes, it’s all about “cheap labor”.

Included within the slogan “less government” is the whole conservative set of assumptions about the nature of the “free market” and government’s role in that market.. In fact, the whole “public sector/private sector” distinction is an invention of the cheap-labor conservatives. They say that the “private sector” exists outside and independently of the “public sector”. The public sector, according to cheap-labor ideology, can only “interfere” with the “private sector”, and that such “interference” is “inefficient” and “unprincipled”

Using this ideology, the cheap-labor ideologue paints himself as a defender of “freedom” against “big government tyranny”. In fact, the whole idea that the “private sector” is independent of the public sector is totally bogus. In fact, “the market” is created by public laws, public institutions and public infrastructure.

But the cheap-labor conservative isn’t really interested in “freedom”. What the he wants is the “privatized tyranny” of industrial serfdom, the main characteristic of which is – you guessed it – “cheap labor”.

For proof, you need only look at exactly what constitutes “big government tyranny” and what doesn’t. It turns out that cheap-labor conservatives are BIG supporters of the most oppressive and heavy handed actions the government takes.
Cheap-labor conservatives are consistent supporters of the generous use of capital punishment. They say that “government can’t do anything right” – except apparently, kill people. Indeed, they exhibit classic conservative unconcern for the very possibility that the government might make a mistake and execute the wrong man.

Cheap-labor conservatives complain about the “Warren Court” “handcuffing the police” and giving “rights to criminals”. It never occurs to them, that our criminal justice system is set up to protect innocent citizens from abuses or just plain mistakes by government officials – you know, the one’s who can’t do anything right.
Cheap-labor conservatives support the “get tough” and “lock ‘em up” approach to virtually every social problem in the spectrum. In fact, it’s the only approach they support. As for the 2,000,000 people we have in jail today – a higher percentage of our population than any other nation on earth – they say our justice system is “too lenient”.
Cheap-labor conservative – you know, the ones who believe in “freedom” – say our crime problem is because – get this – we’re too “permissive”. How exactly do you set up a “free” society that isn’t “permissive”?
Cheap-labor conservatives want all the military force we can stand to pay for and never saw a weapons system they didn’t like.
Cheap-labor conservatives support every right-wing authoritarian hoodlum in the third world.
Cheap-labor conservatives support foreign assassinations, covert intervention in foreign countries, and every other “black bag” operation the CIA can dream up, even against constitutional governments, elected by the people of those countries.
Cheap-labor conservatives support “domestic surveillance” against “subversives” – where “subversive” means “everybody but them”.
Cheap-labor believers in “freedom” think it’s the government’s business if you smoke a joint or sleep with somebody of your own gender.
Cheap-labor conservatives support our new concentration camp down at Guantanamo Bay. They also support these “secret tribunals” with “secret evidence” and virtually no judicial review of the trials and sentences. Then they say that liberals are “Stalinists”.
And let’s not forget this perennial item on the agenda. Cheap-labor conservatives want to “protect our national symbol” from “desecration”. They also support legislation to make the Pledge of Allegiance required by law. Of course, it is they who desecrate the flag every time they wave it to support their cheap-labor agenda. [Ouch! That was one of those “hits” you can hear up in the “nosebleed” seats.]

Sounds to me like the cheap-labor conservatives have a peculiar definition of “freedom”. I mean, just what do these guys consider to be “tyranny”.

That’s easy. Take a look.
“Social spending” otherwise known as “redistribution”. While they don’t mind tax dollars being used for killing people, using their taxes to feed people is “stealing”.

Minimum wage laws.
Every piece of legislation ever proposed to improve working conditions, including the eight hour day, OSHA regulations, and even Child Labor laws.
Labor unions, who “extort” employers by collectively bargaining.
Environmental regulations and the EPA.
Federal support and federal standards for public education.
Civil rights legislation. There are still cheap-labor conservatives today, who were staunch defenders of “Jim Crow” – including conspicuously Buckley’s “National Review”. Apparently, federal laws ending segregation were “tyranny”, but segregation itself was not.
Public broadcasting – which is virtually the only source for classical music, opera, traditional theatre, traditional American music, oh yes, and Buckley’s “Firing Line”. This from the people constantly braying about the decay of “the culture”. The average cost of Public Television for each American is a whopping one dollar a year. “Its tyranny I tell you. Enough’s enough!”

See the pattern? Cheap-labor conservatives support every coercive and oppressive function of government, but call it “tyranny” if government does something for you – using their money, for Chrissake. Even here, cheap-labor conservatives are complete hypocrites. Consider the following expenditures:
150 billion dollars a year for corporate subsidies.

300 billion dollars a year for interest payments on the national debt – payments that are a direct transfer to wealthy bond holders, and buy us absolutely nothing.
Who knows how many billions will be paid to American companies to rebuild Iraq – which didn’t need rebuilding three months ago.
That’s all in addition to the Defense budget – large chunks of which go to corporate defense contractors.

Is the pattern becoming clearer? These cheap-labor Republicans have no problem at all opening the public purse for corporate interests. It’s “social spending” on people who actually need assistance that they just “can’t tolerate”.

And now you know why. Destitute people work cheaper, while a harsh police state keeps them suitably terrorized.
luvwith 9 months ago
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.
Analysis
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.
Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."
Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


The raised seal


Blowup of text

You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.


Blowup of certificate number

Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:


Obama's birth announcement


The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

–by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller
Sources
United States Department of State. "Application for a U.S. Passport." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

State of Hawaii Department of Health. "Request for Certified Copy of Birth Record." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

Hollyfield, Amy. "Obama's Birth Certificate: Final Chapter." Politifact.com. 27 Jun. 2008.

The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.

Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.








luvwith 9 months ago
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.
Analysis
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.
Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."
Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


The raised seal


Blowup of text

You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.


Blowup of certificate number

Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:


Obama's birth announcement


The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

–by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller
Sources
United States Department of State. "Application for a U.S. Passport." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

State of Hawaii Department of Health. "Request for Certified Copy of Birth Record." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

Hollyfield, Amy. "Obama's Birth Certificate: Final Chapter." Politifact.com. 27 Jun. 2008.

The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.

Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.








luvwith 9 months ago
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.
Analysis
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.
Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."
Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


The raised seal


Blowup of text

You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.


Blowup of certificate number

Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:


Obama's birth announcement


The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

–by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller
Sources
United States Department of State. "Application for a U.S. Passport." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

State of Hawaii Department of Health. "Request for Certified Copy of Birth Record." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

Hollyfield, Amy. "Obama's Birth Certificate: Final Chapter." Politifact.com. 27 Jun. 2008.

The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.

Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.








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http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.
Analysis
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.
Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."
Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.


The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller


Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp


The raised seal


Blowup of text

You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.


Blowup of certificate number

Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that h