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Greg Elin

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Member since : May-27-2009 (Verified)
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Allow government websites to have appropriate paid classifieds for materially related goods and services. These classifieds would be organized like a yellow book where basic listings are free or affordable and larger adds cost more.

Personally, I find it silly that government web sites are hesitant to link to non-government websites lest there is the appearance of endorsing a third party.

Currently, the Federal Government--and the taxpayer--has poured trillions of dollars into the private sector to protect specific companies and private assets. Ostensibly, this is being done to help the entire economy. But there is no questions that certain companies, industries, and private citizens are benefiting.

Moreover, the United States has auctioned spectrum and leased land to private parties for grazing, mining, and right of way. Our tax dollars go to build roads for main street business, and sometimes for roads that benefit only a few commercial interests. Government makes puts out bids and makes purchases from software to airplanes that makes (or breaks) whole companies. And I'm not even touching on government subsidies or earmarks.

Considering all this, it is rather parochial to be concerned about government web site links to third parties web sites creating an unethical endorsement. Pshaw. The web itself is about linking. Moreover, it is many times easier (and costless) to rotate different links to make any particularly prime piece of web real-estate (or ordering) equitably available. Ordering could even be changed with each user coming to the page.

Another way to make things equitable, not to mention revenue positive, is to charge for placement along the lines of classified ads. Each agency website could have a "directory" or "classified" section clearly labeled. Vendors listed on the site would be contractually required to not describe such listing as an endorsement.

Ultimately, this is a service for citizen. If I'm on the IRS site and I have a specific tax issue, why shouldn't the IRS point me in the direction of licensed, qualified individuals in my area? If I'm on CDC's site, why shouldn't I be able to find out vaccine locations? If I'm on Recovery.gov, why shouldn't I learn about other websites providing information about stimulus spending?

Collaboration, especially on the web, is bi-directional. When the government spends trillions to support private financial interests, it is silly we preserve our ethics by avoiding web links.

Greg Elin
http://twitter.com/gregelin


We need a website where citizens can publicly thank civil servants for taking the extra step.

Citizens who had a good or outstanding experience with a civil servant (or elected official) would be able to go to the site and put in a commendation. The commendation would automatically route (as appropriate) to the individual as well as the individual's supervisor.

In addition to creating incentives for government employees, such a site would both model expectations for others and share success stories that would improve confidence in government.
OMB's Recovery guidance that agency handling Recovery dollars create pages at "agency.gov/recovery" was widely adopted not only by the 28 relevant agencies, but by many states and local governments, too.

Accepted conventions around various URLs would be very helpful. Many agencies offer similar functions. Imagine the following:

agency.gov/data
agency.gov/documents or agency.gov/forms
agency.gov/foia
agency.gov/accessibility or agency.gov/508
agency.gov/budget
agency.gov/feeds
agency.gov/contact
agency.gov/socialmedia
agency.gov/jobs
agency.gov/stratml
agency.gov/people
agency.gov/participate
agency.gov/calendar or agency.gov events

Other standardization could include:
- certain elements in a fat footer.
- adoption of a open calendar format for events
As a database developer and open government advocate, few things are as frustrating to the development of robust data sets and accountability tools as the lack of access to reliable, unique identifiers for government contractors.

To solve this problem, the Central Contractor Registration Database should be made immediately available to the public, including DUNS numbers and DUNS corporate ownership relationship. Having a taxpayer supported database of corporate contractors unavailable to the public and using proprietary vendor IT system is untenable in 2009.

A DUNS Number is a corporate identifier assigned by the Dun & Bradstreet Corporation. It is like a corporate social security number and is the private and public sector to make it easier to track credit worthiness. While any business can get a DUNS Number for free, it costs money to gain access to Dun & Bradstreet database of DUNS Number. (This database also contains information regarding the relationship among DUNS Numbers, e.g. corporate ownership of subsidiaries, facilities, etc.) D&B claims this database as the companies own intellectual property.

The problem is not that D&B claims this database as their property. The problem is that D&B has government-sponsored monopoly on the IDs the government uses for tracking corporate government vendors...and the public cannot gain access to this piece of the D&B DUNS Number database even though we pay for it.

Since 2003, the federal Office of Budget and Management has required all government contractors to have a "DUNS Number" assigned via Central Contractor Registration (CCR.gov). I'm fairly certain this contract (http://bit.ly/12zeSU) relates to an expansion of the CCR/DUNS work.

Because the public does not have unfettered access to this database of unique identifiers is not possible for third parties, particularly non-profits, academics, and citizens to leverage this identifier in their own workings with data. A government data set might include a corporations DUNS Number, but without the corporate relationship information, the relationships among corporations and basic disambiguation of entities must be manually re-done time and time again.

Making the DUNS Number for corporate contractors available to all, or better, available in a RESTFUL manner on CCR.gov (example: ccr.gov/id/xxxxxxx) would provide the same functionality that Amazon URLs do for books and IMDB.com does for movies.

Alternatively, the US government should stop using proprietary identifiers and simply leverage Web URLs from CCR.gov to provide the same information. A vendor such as Dun & Bradstreet could be employed to manage the system, but the system itself for tracking government contractors with unique identifiers should be public and non proprietary.
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
michael.heffner:

What is really wanted here is free, widely available, IDs for government contractors.

Currently, those IDs exist. A contractor must get a unique ID from ccr.gov. However, that database if IDs is not public even though it is publicly open to search. These IDs should be public.

Greg
Greg Elin 9 months ago
Jason Nichols: I wish you said more about the framework. Government...and the rest of us...are definitely in need of a framework for working with data and all its dirty-ness.

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
Glad you participated in the site. And glad to hear your participation made you reflect on how you could participate better in the future.
Greg Elin 9 months ago
OK. How about government agencies occasionally having free pizza and open door events?

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
Idea seems great: training civil servants how to use these tools. But this also reads like a vendor pitch. I'd prefer the training organization to train on the methodology and not a single platform.

Greg Elin 9 months ago
Excellent idea. The web is making public dialogue easier. Wise practices and appropriate behavior needs to be taught and modeled.

Wouldn't it be great to have demonstration conversations across the country and at various conferences where people are exposed to how to take advantage of new participation sites.

Greg Elin
http://twitter.com/gregelin
Greg Elin 9 months ago
I would prefer if Federal Agencies adopted principles that were defined more operationally than these particular seven.

For example, number 3 strikes me as the general purpose of self-governance and communities: "Support and encourage participants, government and community institutions, and others to work together to advance the common good."

I would not know how to implement #3 or how to check to see if an agency was adhering to that principle.

An alternative to number 3 might read: "Post expected outcomes, measurements, and timeframes in order to facilitate conversations that align all participants to advance those outcomes."

I like the idea of core principles for public engagement. But I think more work is needed on the what those principles would be.

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
See Center for Democracy and Technology recent recommendations on government use of persistent cookies and web usage measurement.

http://www.cdt.org/publications/policyposts/2009/6

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
Wouldn't it be interesting if a government website did point to other reliable sources of information.

There would be a vetting process for third-party websites to be included, and maybe an automatic expiration date for information.

But the US provides spectrum licenses to broadcasters, rents out public land, and awards exclusive rights via patents. It seems logical processes could be established for a government website to include a directory of other useful resources.

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
I think we need a Grand Challenge or a major DARPA research effort in to better ways of ensuring data quality.

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
Getting rid of ALL no-bid contracts would be silly, hamstring government, and keep government costs high.

Having been a very small sub-contractor for government in the past--and having read a government contract--I can tell you the length and complexity of a federal government contract correlates directly with the all the activity of good government groups input on how to improve accountability and honesty of government.

What we really need is better distinction of what types of contracts should be bid and better disclosed analytics on contracts by various contractors and via various processes. We need more "view source" features for tracking contracts and project management so practices that work well are emulated.

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
This makes sense. Part of the idea of Sunlight and transparency is more eyes make all bugs shallow.

Linux and other open source software has an excellent record on computer security because security holes are found quickly. It makes sense to monitor public government data for security issues that might arise just as we would use the data for accountability reasons.

Of course, citizens should not be monitored for looking at public data sets.

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
I like this idea. As a country governed by it citizens, there will always be new persons coming of voting age. "Newbies" if you will, who need the help on getting started and learning the basics.

The great experiment that is America meant including people who were not royalty in the process of self government. But back in the late 1700s, that still meant men and often major property owners.

Today, it is an accepted notion that democracy means participation from everyone. And that means creating better on ramps to that participation.

Greg Elin
http://twitter.com/gregelin
Greg Elin 9 months ago
I'm voting for this with the caveat that various *aspects* of websites be standardized and the standardization be encouraged by convention and RFC-style approach than executive fiat.

For example, OMB's Recovery guidance that agency handling Recovery dollars create pages at "agencyname.gov/recovery" was widely adopted not only by the 28 relevant agencies, but by many states and local governments, too.

Accepted conventions around various URLs would be very helpful. Many agencies offer similar functions. Imagine the following:

agency.gov/data
agency.gov/documents or agency.gov/forms
agency.gov/foia
agency.gov/accessibility or agency.gov/508
agency.gov/budget
agency.gov/feeds
agency.gov/contact
agency.gov/socialmedia
agency.gov/jobs
agency.gov/stratml
agency.gov/people
agency.gov/participate
agency.gov/calendar or agency.gov events

Other standardization could include:
- certain elements in a fat footer.
- adoption of a open calendar format for events

Greg Elin 9 months ago
Even if track record on this is hard, it is a project worth pursuing.
Greg Elin 9 months ago
I believe SEC has mandated XBRL.
http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?id=675511
http://www.irwebreport.com/daily/2008/12/18/sec-mandates-xbrl-for-financial-statements/
Greg Elin 9 months ago
The meme of standardizing discovery and method calls to data sets seems to be spontaneously bubbling up.

Going REST provides standardized HTTP error codes for accessing data. It makes sense to see if there could also be a standardized set of basic methods for accessing RESTful data(e.g., search, getList, describe, etc.)

Pito Salas has has written a case study for "Data RSS" and has been thinking about a set of basic methods that everyone could offer with their data sets. See: http://www.blogbridge.com/2009/02/27/data-rss-early-ideas/

There's also an overlap with URL scheme idea, in which the idea is to have a parseable schema definition or utilizing URLs to a restful resource. The idea is to publish a definition of one's URL structure for accessing RESTful resources and thereby effectively replacing API "methods" with simply the URL schema. Daniel Bennett has his take on it here: https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dfxgcdfc_10ddmrz9g4&hl=en_GB But I believe there are others exploring this notion, too.

Greg Elin
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Greg Elin 9 months ago
Excellent idea! Just as Amazon provides a dependable reference for all books and IMDB provides a handy reference for all movies, the Federal government and Data.gov could provide a dependable, reliable reference to all (1) elected officials, (2) Fed, state, and local govt bodies (I've heard there are 88K+ of them), and (3) government contractors.

Already the Federal government provides reference standardized information for many common sets of data. Examples include state and county FIPs codes, tiger shape files, census blocks, etc. The web and data.gov provides a way to make this information easier to use. And elected officials on top of this data would be a logical next step.

Greg Elin
http://twitter.com/gregelin