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Date: 6/18/2009

Ron Paul: I’d like to talk a little bit about the medical care crisis that we’re facing. Sometimes I’d like to think that it may be a government crisis rather than a medical care crisis, but we do have a mess in medicine and there is a lot of talk about what’s going on, not only throughout the country but here in Washington.

But first I’d like to describe how I see the problem developing and what has happened. A lot of people are arguing that free markets can’t deliver medical care, which I disagree with and the problems that we face today are not a consequence of the marketplace. They’re a consequence, they’re a failure of the government.

This idea of managed care was introduced during the Nixon years and this was a program designed to force people into medical care and provide PPO and HMOs and tax credits for certain groups and not any others. So we have been enduring managed care over these last 35 to 40 years and what has developed from this has been corporate medicine.

The individuals who were best able to gather up the money passed out by the government and were mandated by the government, they became the chief lobbyists. So the drug companies are lined up, the health insurance companies lined up, the health management companies lined and it turned out that they started running the show and actually made it less efficient.

So there is too much management and at the same time, too much of the money was going into these corporations, which was sort of the middlemen and the patients have suffered, the doctors have become unhappy.

The main complaint I hear is that medical care costs too much. “I can’t afford my insurance”, and there’s a lot of truth to this, but one thing that most people don’t talk about is why are the costs high? Why are the costs of medical care higher than say the cost of bread or computers or television sets or whatever?

The truth is it’s a reaction to government. It’s a reaction to our monetary policy. We do inflate the money supply. We do have price inflation. But prices go up, more so in certain areas that the government gets involved in than in others, so the government is more involved in education and medical care, so you have more inflation there and that is part of the problem.

Over these years, there has been less competition in medicine and that has been gradual over a hundred years or so where people couldn’t enter the medical field without getting all kinds of licenses and protecting special groups. But if there’s more competition and there’s less insurance, actually costs go down.

If you look at some of the procedures provided by the plastic surgeons or the eye surgeons who do keratotomies and they’re not under coverage of the insurance company, those prices actually go down.

We don’t have insurance for medical care. We have distorted that word. Insurance is supposed to measure risk and you’re supposed to buy that protection. So if you want medical insurance, you would be insuring against bad accidents or major surgeries or against cancer or something like that. But today, people expect prepaid services. They want every penny taken care of. They want the drugs paid for and then that invites abuse. When third parties pay the bills, doctors, labs, and hospital, and everybody else, all of a sudden, they charge the most, not the least.

I experienced medicine before they had managed care and patients were always charged the least and nobody went without medical care. The churches and volunteer hospitals and other groups took care of the people, but now, everybody has to have this so-called insurance, which doesn’t do a whole lot more than boost prices and then cause shortages and then there’s a demand for what? For more government and that’s where we are today.

So we’re going from corporate medicine, which was deeply flawed and not working and now, the proposal here is to go to government medicine, which is socialized medicine. This has not really worked well any place else. People, yeah, they surely get care if they want to wait and watch, but today, even and in spite of our shortcomings, people come to this country still for top medical care, but that would soon change if we want to equalize everything by leveling it and making sure that everybody gets poor medicine rather than extra medicine, extra and better medical care.

But we could do better. What we could do is introduce the notion that patients do have rights. Anything that comes out of Washington here, and something will, what we ought to fight for is the fact that we have a choice. We shouldn’t be forced into a program. If the government starts a program, we ought to have the right to opt out of the program.

We should be very generous with tax credits. Give tax credits for the entire amount of money you spend on medical care, so you can be independent. The concept of medical savings account is a good concept and we should promote that and encourage that and we should demand privacy.

I mean, this is one of tools that the government agents always used and they’ve already set the program up. It’s been passed already where there would be essentially no medical privacy. So there’s a lot of things that could be done through the tax code, the tax credit and also protecting the individual’s privacy.

Now, the one other thing that we could do, we could pass legislation that would actually help along these ideas with the problems that we have with malpractice suits. What we ought to do is talk about getting rid of the anti-trust laws against the doctors where they could negotiate with their patients and get the attorneys out of the ball game where you would agree on an arbitration board and get a tax credit for buying an insurance policy like that.

So there are ways you can, through the market place, literally reduce this fear mongering and excessive costs that are involved in litigation against doctors because right now, believe me, if you get a bump on your head, you come to the emergency room because of the third-party payment, we’re fearful as doctors of missing something due to the attorneys. Believe me, you can’t walk out of the emergency room without a $10,000 or $15,000 bill and that is not the way it should be.

There are alternatives. Now, I do want to say that the Campaign for Liberty did such an exceptional job when it came to HR 1207 at the grassroots’ level. So I suspect that the Campaign for Liberty, if they get behind some of this free market approach to medical care, they can do a tremendous job in changing the course here in Washington because right now, we are on a course towards socialized medicine and it doesn’t have to be that way.


Dear Friend,

Last week, I announced United We Serve – a nationwide call to service challenging you and all Americans to volunteer this summer and be part of building a new foundation for America.

And when I say “all,” I mean everyone – young and old, from every background, all across the country. We need individuals, community organizations, corporations, foundations, and our government to be part of this effort.

Today, for the official kick off of United We Serve, members of my administration have fanned out across America to participate in service events and encourage all Americans to join them.

The First Lady is rolling up her sleeves and getting to work too. But before she headed out today, she asked me to share this message with you.



Our nation faces some of the greatest challenges it has in generations and we know it’s going to take a lot of hard work to get us back on track.

While Michelle and I are calling on every American to participate in United We Serve, the call to service doesn’t end this fall. We need to stay involved in our towns and communities for a long time to come. After all, America’s new foundation will be built one neighborhood at a time – and that starts with you.

Thank you,
President Barack Obama






Dear Friend,

Last week, I announced United We Serve – a nationwide call to service challenging you and all Americans to volunteer this summer and be part of building a new foundation for America.

And when I say “all,” I mean everyone – young and old, from every background, all across the country. We need individuals, community organizations, corporations, foundations, and our government to be part of this effort.

Today, for the official kick off of United We Serve, members of my administration have fanned out across America to participate in service events and encourage all Americans to join them.

The First Lady is rolling up her sleeves and getting to work too. But before she headed out today, she asked me to share this message with you.



Our nation faces some of the greatest challenges it has in generations and we know it’s going to take a lot of hard work to get us back on track.

While Michelle and I are calling on every American to participate in United We Serve, the call to service doesn’t end this fall. We need to stay involved in our towns and communities for a long time to come. After all, America’s new foundation will be built one neighborhood at a time – and that starts with you.

Thank you,
President Barack Obama














Dear Friend,

Last week, I announced United We Serve – a nationwide call to service challenging you and all Americans to volunteer this summer and be part of building a new foundation for America.

And when I say “all,” I mean everyone – young and old, from every background, all across the country. We need individuals, community organizations, corporations, foundations, and our government to be part of this effort.

Today, for the official kick off of United We Serve, members of my administration have fanned out across America to participate in service events and encourage all Americans to join them.

The First Lady is rolling up her sleeves and getting to work too. But before she headed out today, she asked me to share this message with you.



Our nation faces some of the greatest challenges it has in generations and we know it’s going to take a lot of hard work to get us back on track.

While Michelle and I are calling on every American to participate in United We Serve, the call to service doesn’t end this fall. We need to stay involved in our towns and communities for a long time to come. After all, America’s new foundation will be built one neighborhood at a time – and that starts with you.

Thank you,
President Barack Obama












Health care changes have widespread public support, according to a CBS-New York Times poll released Saturday. Almost two-thirds say the government should guarantee health insurance for all Americans while half that many think it's not the government's responsibility.

Do you know anyone who supports this? I don't.
Glenn Beck: The Letter
Audio Available:

June 17, 2009 - 10:36 ET


GLENN: I got a letter from a woman in Arizona. She writes an open letter to our nation's leadership: I'm a home grown American citizen, 53, registered Democrat all my life. Before the last presidential election I registered as a Republican because I no longer felt the Democratic Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. Now I no longer feel the Republican Party represents my views or works to pursue issues important to me. The fact is I no longer feel any political party or representative in Washington represents my views or works to pursue the issues important to me. There must be someone. Please tell me who you are. Please stand up and tell me that you are there and that you're willing to fight for our Constitution as it was written. Please stand up now. You might ask yourself what my views and issues are that I would horribly feel so disenfranchised by both major political parties. What kind of nut job am I? Will you please tell me?

Well, these are briefly my views and issues for which I seek representation:

One, illegal immigration. I want you to stop coddling illegal immigrants and secure our borders. Close the underground tunnels. Stop the violence and the trafficking in drugs and people. No amnesty, not again. Been there, done that, no resolution. P.S., I'm not a racist. This isn't to be confused with legal immigration.

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Two, the TARP bill, I want it repealed and I want no further funding supplied to it. We told you no, but you did it anyway. I want the remaining unfunded 95% repealed. Freeze, repeal.

Three: Czars, I want the circumvention of our checks and balances stopped immediately. Fire the czars. No more czars. Government officials answer to the process, not to the president. Stop trampling on our Constitution and honor it.

Four, cap and trade. The debate on global warming is not over. There is more to say.

Five, universal healthcare. I will not be rushed into another expensive decision. Don't you dare try to pass this in the middle of the night and then go on break. Slow down!

Six, growing government control. I want states rights and sovereignty fully restored. I want less government in my life, not more. Shrink it down. Mind your own business. You have enough to take care of with your real obligations. Why don't you start there.

Seven, ACORN. I do not want ACORN and its affiliates in charge of our 2010 census. I want them investigated. I also do not want mandatory escrow fees contributed to them every time on every real estate deal that closes. Stop the funding to ACORN and its affiliates pending impartial audits and investigations. I do not trust them with taking the census over with our taxpayer money. I don't trust them with our taxpayer money. Face up to the allegations against them and get it resolved before taxpayers get any more involved with them. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, hello. Stop protecting your political buddies. You work for us, the people. Investigate.

Eight, redistribution of wealth. No, no, no. I work for my money. It is mine. I have always worked for people with more money than I have because they gave me jobs. That is the only redistribution of wealth that I will support. I never got a job from a poor person. Why do you want me to hate my employers? Why ‑‑ what do you have against shareholders making a profit?

Nine, charitable contributions. Although I never got a job from a poor person, I have helped many in need. Charity belongs in our local communities, where we know our needs best and can use our local talent and our local resources. Butt out, please. We want to do it ourselves.

Ten, corporate bailouts. Knock it off. Sink or swim like the rest of us. If there are hard times ahead, we'll be better off just getting into it and letting the strong survive. Quick and painful. Have you ever ripped off a Band‑Aid? We will pull together. Great things happen in America under great hardship. Give us the chance to innovate. We cannot disappoint you more than you have disappointed us.

Eleven, transparency and accountability. How about it? No, really, how about it? Let's have it. Let's say we give the buzzwords a rest and have some straight honest talk. Please try ‑‑ please stop manipulating and trying to appease me with clever wording. I am not the idiot you obviously take me for. Stop sneaking around and meeting in back rooms making deals with your friends. It will only be a prelude to your criminal investigation. Stop hiding things from me.

Twelve, unprecedented quick spending. Stop it now.

Take a breath. Listen to the people. Let's just slow down and get some input from some nonpoliticians on the subject. Stop making everything an emergency. Stop speed reading our bills into law. I am not an activist. I am not a community organizer. Nor am I a terrorist, a militant or a violent person. I am a parent and a grandparent. I work. I'm busy. I'm busy. I am busy, and I am tired. I thought we elected competent people to take care of the business of government so that we could work, raise our families, pay our bills, have a little recreation, complain about taxes, endure our hardships, pursue our personal goals, cut our lawn, wash our cars on the weekends and be responsible contributing members of society and teach our children to be the same all while living in the home of the free and land of the brave.

I entrusted you with upholding the Constitution. I believed in the checks and balances to keep from getting far off course. What happened? You are very far off course. Do you really think I find humor in the hiring of a speed reader to unintelligently ramble all through a bill that you signed into law without knowing what it contained? I do not. It is a mockery of the responsibility I have entrusted to you. It is a slap in the face. I am not laughing at your arrogance. Why is it that I feel as if you would not trust me to make a single decision about my own life and how I would live it but you should expect that I should trust you with the debt that you have laid on all of us and our children. We did not want the TARP bill. We said no. We would repeal it if we could. I am sure that we still cannot. There is such urgency and recklessness in all of the recent spending.

From my perspective, it seems that all of you have gone insane. I also know that I am far from alone in these feelings. Do you honestly feel that your current pursuits have merit to patriotic Americans? We want it to stop. We want to put the brakes on everything that is being rushed by us and forced upon us. We want our voice back. You have forced us to put our lives on hold to straighten out the mess that you are making. We will have to give up our vacations, our time spent with our children, any relaxation time we may have had and money we cannot afford to spend on you to bring our concerns to Washington. Our president often knows all the right buzzword is unsustainable. Well, no kidding. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the focus group cost to come up with that word? We don't want your overpriced words. Stop treating us like we're morons.

We want all of you to stop focusing on your reelection and do the job we want done, not the job you want done or the job your party wants done. You work for us and at this rate I guarantee you not for long because we are coming. We will be heard and we will be represented. You think we're so busy with our lives that we will never come for you? We are the formerly silent majority, all of us who quietly work , pay taxes, obey the law, vote, save money, keep our noses to the grindstone and we are now looking up at you. You have awakened us, the patriotic spirit so strong and so powerful that it had been sleeping too long. You have pushed us too far. Our numbers are great. They may surprise you. For every one of us who will be there, there will be hundreds more that could not come. Unlike you, we have their trust. We will represent them honestly, rest assured. They will be at the polls on voting day to usher you out of office. We have cancelled vacations. We will use our last few dollars saved. We will find the representation among us and a grassroots campaign will flourish. We didn't ask for this fight. But the gloves are coming off. We do not come in violence, but we are angry. You will represent us or you will be replaced with someone who will. There are candidates among us when hewill rise like a Phoenix from the ashes that you have made of our constitution.

Democrat, Republican, independent, libertarian. Understand this. We don't care. Political parties are meaningless to us. Patriotic Americans are willing to do right by us and our Constitution and that is all that matters to us now. We are going to fire all of you who abuse power and seek more. It is not your power. It is ours and we want it back. We entrusted you with it and you abused it. You are dishonorable. You are dishonest. As Americans we are ashamed of you. You have brought shame to us. If you are not representing the wants and needs of your constituency loudly and consistently, in spite of the objections of your party, you will be fired. Did you hear? We no longer care about your political parties. You need to be loyal to us, not to them. Because we will get you fired and they will not save you. If you do or can represent me, my issues, my views, please stand up. Make your identity known. You need to make some noise about it. Speak up. I need to know who you are. If you do not speak up, you will be herded out with the rest of the sheep and we will replace the whole damn congress if need be one by one. We are coming. Are we coming for you? Who do you represent? What do you represent? Listen. Because we are coming. We the people are coming.
We have to stop buying in to the idea that our government will solve all the problems that we face. The people that live here and work hard have solved problems for ages without legislation. They're trying to make us believe that our lives will fall apart without them. Let's shift our focus and take our lives back, take our country back from the traitors in the White House that we've had and still have. Stop believing the fearmongering put on us by the politicians and the media. We do not have man-made Global warming. We don't need UN environmentalists to save the planet. Don't let them scare you into believing them with their pseudo-science. It's all about control, power and money! They're land-grabbers! They're in it for themselves, not for you and me!
Bill Clinton signed over the Grand Canyon to the UN as collateral on our national debt. The UN is functioning under the guise of an environmental group (for our own good). This order allows the UN to take privately owned land and prevents land owners from suing. The UN lays claim to over 60% of the country. This was in the 90's when our debt was lower. What will Obama give away?

http://www.bitterroot.com/grizzly/EXECUTIVE%20ORDER.HTML
Read the information at this site and sign the petition if this is not going to be something that you want to see happen.

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/642/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27451

The pollen in these trees can cause many negative health reactions, particularly with asthmatics and to those with allergies.

Scientists are playing God again! Stop this if you can.
$7.7 billion is going to (experimental) vaccinations for the US military in preparation for the swine flu, $10 billion for reconstruction and security of Pakistan. Two critical points...Soldiers are being used as guinea pigs for untested vaccinations which have never been proven to be effective. They contain mercury, acetone, glycerine, formaldehyde and some chemicals that are new and unheard of besides a live virus or a combination of a few. Military personel get many vaccination cocktails. This latest vaccine is a new creation used to vaccinate for another lab creation, swine flu. This vaccine is made at a company called Sanofi where all the US vaccines are made. This company is owned by David Rockefeller.

Another issue is the reconstuction. Stop blowing the damn places up and there wouldn't be any need for reconstruction! Stop the chemical and biological warfare. Stop the killing. Our soldiers become the victims along with civilian men, women and children. The use of depleted uranium is killing innocent people and contaminating the land for years to come.

Keep our soldiers at home with their families. This would go against the plan of depopulation but it isn't my plan and I doubt that it's yours. The military is wiping out our strongest force if we were to be attacked by foreign invaders on native soil. We are being attacked... from within. So many vets are experiencing health problems because of the vaccinations and chemical weapons. They believe they are protecting the US but they are actually victims of those who seek World domination. The general public could be next.
The Elitists want a New World Order, One World Government. Do any of you know that the National Parks are collateral to the UN or that Bill Clinton made a deal with China and traded them (Cosco) our deepest water port, a naval base in California and that the Panama Canal is soon to be theirs too? Were we relieved that Hillary didn't win only to realize that she led us into a trap with Obama. Why did he make her Secretary of State after she was so nasty during the campaign. Doesn't this look like a conspiracy?

How is David Rockefeller connected to Panama? His family was one of the founders of The Federal Reserve Bank (the financial backer) and David was a member of COACT, a group responsible for changing the treaty we made with Panama. Jimmy Carter saved his career (with the Illuminati), US citizens were lied to and Panama is subject to more of the Red Chinese Communists.

Do you feel like a chess piece yet? This is a fraction of what has befallen us and hardly anyone knows or believes it. What can we do? We have to do something!

Obama did not set this site up to get helpful suggestions.
Give us a record of the votes. We need accountability, paper ballots.
It is shocking that we sell ammunition to those that we say are enemies. One example, Donald Rumsfeld met with Saddam Hussein in the eighties and worked out a deal for him to borrow $4,000,000,000 (that's billion) which he used to buy weapons from America to fight Iran. Theses were biologic weapons of Mass destruction. That's why GW knew that they had them. Our government is playing us and we think they're protecting us. It's time to worry about secrets bigger than a birth certificate. Obama was groomed for the job and anyone who the real leaders selected would have sold their souls to the devil. Let's stop the petty arguments and band together. Divide and conquer is an historical maneuver.

Iraq is the location of the Biblical town of Babal. Some of you know that story and what to expect. I have doubts that this will get past the moderator.
If the Card Check Forced Unionism Bill passes, this outrageous power grab would:

*** Force millions of additional working Americans to pay union dues under the threat of losing their jobs, filling Big Labor’s coffers with hundreds of millions of forced-dues dollars;

*** Dramatically increase the wasteful work rules, hate-the-boss propaganda, slowdowns and bitter strikes that shut down businesses and destroy jobs, ensuring that even more plants are closed and more jobs are shipped overseas or lost forever;

*** Enable Big Labor to pump even more campaign cash into the coffers of its radical, tax-and-spend politicians like Barack Obama and Ted Kennedy, who, in turn, will look for even greater ways to increase the union bosses’ forced-dues empire.
It was decided by the FDA that genetically modified foods do NOT have to be labeled as such. Let us make the choice of what we eat by letting us know what's in the food! Make labeling mandatory. Studies by many scientists and physicians have determined that GMOs are health risks. Now vaccines may be added to corn, corn products and animal feed. Stop this maddness!
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apugh96 8 months ago
He isn't saying that he won't dismiss it either. He said that the situation is serious.
apugh96 8 months ago
I misspelled birthers purposely and posted a web address because certain key words don't get past the moderators. This is another lawsuit brought on Obama and the Congress for failing to provide proof of qualification to be POTUS and failure of the Congress to investigate before he was allowed to run for office. There is finally a judge willing to take the case seriously.

Blackmon, I know that you're going to jump on this but it has nothing to do with your accusations of Orly Taite fabricating a case against Obama. This is the real deal. You can't debunk this one!
apugh96 8 months ago
I just wanted to put the information out and let people come to their own conclusion. I voted for Dr. Paul for Pres. knowing that he was a dark horse. I could not vote against my conscience. He is the most level-headed, honest politician in office. The public is more important to him than his political career.
apugh96 8 months ago
It's also a New World Order tenet. They idolize the phoenix. Destroy and rebuild a New World Order.
apugh96 8 months ago
Rooster, I had that thought too. I think it's the Global Elite who set Obama up to fail. He is going to create a racial war.
apugh96 8 months ago
Is... I suppose that you think that medical education should also be free, restauranteers should feed the hungry, mechanics should fix the cars so that people can get around, all at no cost to the masses. This is a very socialistic attitude. The US is a Republic, not a democracy. The majority does not dictate our rights, the Constitution does. Do you earn a iving?
apugh96 8 months ago
CreekSneakers, you're an idiot. Both right wing, left wing and middle ground citizens deserve to hear the truth.
apugh96 8 months ago
Sounds like indentured servitude to me! Let's get the families more involved. Some of the residents need medical care. Doctors and nurses won't work for those low wages!
apugh96 8 months ago
I think that one person's experiences may be good but overall VA's have a rotten reputation.
apugh96 8 months ago
I tried to post about this but my post is being moderated!
apugh96 8 months ago
That WAS good Sobi. Sometimes you have profound responses.
apugh96 8 months ago
All he has to do is prove himself a natural born citizen. It doesnt matter who and why the skeptism came about. He refuses to provide the proof. Even when no-one mentions it, you do. Drop it already! The sun did not rise on Obama nor will it set there. If you were concerned about something would it be right for people to ridicule you about it? The first thing that people do when confronted with a possible truth is deny and ridicule the possibility. They shoot the messenger. Believe me, sinkng our boat won't make yours float!
apugh96 8 months ago
Obama thinks?
apugh96 8 months ago
Blackmon, is this "birfer" situation the only issue you comment on? There are far more problems with Obama than that! You're getting redundant.
apugh96 8 months ago
I'm curious. Did the people who voted against this vote against the government plan or against what RP suggests?
apugh96 8 months ago
Obama has NEVER kept a campaign promise. Is there any wonder why so many people are nervous about his fast-track politics? When asked a direct question, if his wife needed medical attention, would she use the same government healthcare that we will be forced to use. He bypassed the question by answering that she would get the best care available. He didn't say what plan she would use, if any.
apugh96 8 months ago
Bush knew that the Saudies had weapons of mass destruction because he sent them there! The Bushes 1&2 have had business relationships with Bin Laden for years. The 9/11 and Pentagon situations have far too many unanswered questions. I doubt that we will ever hear the truth from the Skull and Bonesmen Bushes. They have closets full of skeletons.
apugh96 8 months ago
Creek, the right will tell you to wake up and Obama to step down. Bush WAS bad but Obama isn't a savior. He has magnified the problems not cause them to diminish. The country as we knew it won't recover if things keep going this way.
apugh96 8 months ago



Date: 6/18/2009

Ron Paul: I’d like to talk a little bit about the medical care crisis that we’re facing. Sometimes I’d like to think that it may be a government crisis rather than a medical care crisis, but we do have a mess in medicine and there is a lot of talk about what’s going on, not only throughout the country but here in Washington.

But first I’d like to describe how I see the problem developing and what has happened. A lot of people are arguing that free markets can’t deliver medical care, which I disagree with and the problems that we face today are not a consequence of the marketplace. They’re a consequence, they’re a failure of the government.

This idea of managed care was introduced during the Nixon years and this was a program designed to force people into medical care and provide PPO and HMOs and tax credits for certain groups and not any others. So we have been enduring managed care over these last 35 to 40 years and what has developed from this has been corporate medicine.

The individuals who were best able to gather up the money passed out by the government and were mandated by the government, they became the chief lobbyists. So the drug companies are lined up, the health insurance companies lined up, the health management companies lined and it turned out that they started running the show and actually made it less efficient.

So there is too much management and at the same time, too much of the money was going into these corporations, which was sort of the middlemen and the patients have suffered, the doctors have become unhappy.

The main complaint I hear is that medical care costs too much. “I can’t afford my insurance”, and there’s a lot of truth to this, but one thing that most people don’t talk about is why are the costs high? Why are the costs of medical care higher than say the cost of bread or computers or television sets or whatever?

The truth is it’s a reaction to government. It’s a reaction to our monetary policy. We do inflate the money supply. We do have price inflation. But prices go up, more so in certain areas that the government gets involved in than in others, so the government is more involved in education and medical care, so you have more inflation there and that is part of the problem.

Over these years, there has been less competition in medicine and that has been gradual over a hundred years or so where people couldn’t enter the medical field without getting all kinds of licenses and protecting special groups. But if there’s more competition and there’s less insurance, actually costs go down.

If you look at some of the procedures provided by the plastic surgeons or the eye surgeons who do keratotomies and they’re not under coverage of the insurance company, those prices actually go down.

We don’t have insurance for medical care. We have distorted that word. Insurance is supposed to measure risk and you’re supposed to buy that protection. So if you want medical insurance, you would be insuring against bad accidents or major surgeries or against cancer or something like that. But today, people expect prepaid services. They want every penny taken care of. They want the drugs paid for and then that invites abuse. When third parties pay the bills, doctors, labs, and hospital, and everybody else, all of a sudden, they charge the most, not the least.

I experienced medicine before they had managed care and patients were always charged the least and nobody went without medical care. The churches and volunteer hospitals and other groups took care of the people, but now, everybody has to have this so-called insurance, which doesn’t do a whole lot more than boost prices and then cause shortages and then there’s a demand for what? For more government and that’s where we are today.

So we’re going from corporate medicine, which was deeply flawed and not working and now, the proposal here is to go to government medicine, which is socialized medicine. This has not really worked well any place else. People, yeah, they surely get care if they want to wait and watch, but today, even and in spite of our shortcomings, people come to this country still for top medical care, but that would soon change if we want to equalize everything by leveling it and making sure that everybody gets poor medicine rather than extra medicine, extra and better medical care.

But we could do better. What we could do is introduce the notion that patients do have rights. Anything that comes out of Washington here, and something will, what we ought to fight for is the fact that we have a choice. We shouldn’t be forced into a program. If the government starts a program, we ought to have the right to opt out of the program.

We should be very generous with tax credits. Give tax credits for the entire amount of money you spend on medical care, so you can be independent. The concept of medical savings account is a good concept and we should promote that and encourage that and we should demand privacy.

I mean, this is one of tools that the government agents always used and they’ve already set the program up. It’s been passed already where there would be essentially no medical privacy. So there’s a lot of things that could be done through the tax code, the tax credit and also protecting the individual’s privacy.

Now, the one other thing that we could do, we could pass legislation that would actually help along these ideas with the problems that we have with malpractice suits. What we ought to do is talk about getting rid of the anti-trust laws against the doctors where they could negotiate with their patients and get the attorneys out of the ball game where you would agree on an arbitration board and get a tax credit for buying an insurance policy like that.

So there are ways you can, through the market place, literally reduce this fear mongering and excessive costs that are involved in litigation against doctors because right now, believe me, if you get a bump on your head, you come to the emergency room because of the third-party payment, we’re fearful as doctors of missing something due to the attorneys. Believe me, you can’t walk out of the emergency room without a $10,000 or $15,000 bill and that is not the way it should be.

There are alternatives. Now, I do want to say that the Campaign for Liberty did such an exceptional job when it came to HR 1207 at the grassroots’ level. So I suspect that the Campaign for Liberty, if they get behind some of this free market approach to medical care, they can do a tremendous job in changing the course here in Washington because right now, we are on a course towards socialized medicine and it doesn’t have to be that way.
apugh96 8 months ago
Thia has become a vent session Applewhite. Get with the program!
apugh96 8 months ago
Invite me to the party. I'll bring the appetizers and hand out Ron Paul bumper atickers and Alex Jones DVDs! I used to deal blackjack! I'm a displaced 7th generation Texan.
apugh96 8 months ago
You want corrupted government to be responsible for teaching your children government?! You might want to rethink that.
apugh96 8 months ago
Grea story 1789!
apugh96 8 months ago
Again, we have a self-made moderator among us! This may get flagged because I've complained about applewhite for his ste monitoring several times.
apugh96 8 months ago
Applewhite, take care of your own business and quit trying to run the show!
apugh96 8 months ago
This started in the days of Babal! This is definitely the plan of the Elitists. There have always been men who want power. Obama is a front man not the instigator. He doesn't have the will to resist.
apugh96 8 months ago
Global Warming is a hoax promoted by a man who has a financial interest in cap and trade. Do some research on Al Gore and HARA.
apugh96 8 months ago
Absolutely not! I didn't approve of George Bush 1&2 either, or Bill Clinton or Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon... It seems like the slime keeps floating to the top.
apugh96 8 months ago
This is very idealistic. The Universal Health Plan is going to make everyone suffer. The people who work hard for their money and have to spend it on those who don't and everyone will have below par care. It's a socialistic program.
apugh96 8 months ago
If you're healthy or use alternative (CAM) why should you pay for insurance (that you won't use) that will give you less to spend on your family or for the treatment of your choice (like supplements)?
apugh96 8 months ago
Let me get this straight. You should have a low score for not being in debt?
apugh96 8 months ago
What are you growing on your land?
apugh96 8 months ago
What planet do you live on?
apugh96 8 months ago
I voted that I'm not so sure, but I am sure, this idea gets a resounding NO WAY!!!
apugh96 8 months ago
I have this DVD, a stack of others and lots of books by him and about him. His showmanship is very good, all an act.
apugh96 8 months ago
Clamesse, Don't belive everything you read. The media was bought and paid for with money that the Illuinati stole from you (and all of us).
apugh96 8 months ago
Blackmon, that may be up to the courts to decide. Orly got a court date on July 13th according to WND.
apugh96 8 months ago
According to WDN, Orly has a date with the court on July 13th to argue her case against Obama. He will be required to show his documentation. Not providing his verified documents will cause the case to end in default.
apugh96 8 months ago
Are you stoned?!
apugh96 8 months ago
I have changed my lifestyle completely. I don't eat Frankenfoods, I don't drink alcohol, do drugs (not even prescription drugs), I don't smoke, I don't use chemicals on my body or in my house. There are a few exceptions, I use kitty litter for my cats and air freshener occasionally. Being diagnosed with MS saved my life. My family has seen the change in me and they adopted some of the same habits. I decided to research and by reading about alternatives, I learned why they work and how we've been led down the wrong path, much like Obama plans for us. To benefit from this advise, one needs to unlearn everything they think they know. Look around you. Everyone you know is sick with something. In my opinion, it's from toxicity and deficiency. We eat a lot but we're starving for nutrition.

We have to block the passage of CODEX Alimentarius. It will make criinals of those who grow and sell organic produce and outlaw nutritional supplements.
apugh96 8 months ago
Juan, I'm talking about victims of home invasion murders, victims at fast food restaurants who were gunned down recently, store owners who get robbed. The school shootings happened because the shooters (all of them) were put on psychotropic drugs for ADHD or ADD (made up diagnoses). Take the drugs away, not the guns. Make the parents more aware of what their kids are doing. Guns are a protective weapon when you need it. Bad men will always find a way to cause harm when it suits them.
apugh96 8 months ago
I think the electoral college was put in place when the population was spread out and not everyone had the opportunity to vote. It needs to be ended or revamped. The public votes are more accessible today. IQ doesn't matter with citizen rights.
apugh96 8 months ago
Here's the thing. ALL of Obama's cabinet is criminal. We need to accept that and come up with a battle plan to end their reign over us.
apugh96 8 months ago
I'm sorry. I meant to say your posts are a waste of time, not you.
apugh96 8 months ago
Very profound.
apugh96 8 months ago
Thanks Rooster.
apugh96 8 months ago
Disability architecture is usally constructed using the minimum requirements. Bathrooms are the worst! They rarely have bars on both sides of the toilet (necessary for balance) or vertical bars. They were definitely not designed by someone who would use them, none of it is. But it is expensive and the building owner is paying a lot for little reward. I'm in a wheelchair and I have difficulty standing without these bars. Even medical buildings rarely have them.
apugh96 8 months ago
You only think you're an expert. You are too far near the bottom of the pyramid to have inside information. The BC situation has been over-shadowed by Obama's actions. He is moving too fast without having Presidential or any kind of leadership experience and it has become clear that there is an enormous conspiracy behind him. You dwell on the "Birfer" issue without proving who you are either. Is this Obama trait of yours supposed to encourage people to believe you? Your rhetoric and name calling is driving people away from you. Your assessment of what you consider lies does not exclude you from lying yourself. You have become a waste of energy and time.
apugh96 8 months ago
"It's just nonsense to buy guns to protect your self against someone with guns! Its like saying that the best way to protect ourselves from a nuclear attack is by buying more nuclear weapons. With this mentality everyone will eventually have them and it only takes one idiot to destroy us all. So let's just disarm every country from nuclear weapons... hey... I must be saying something right because all of the first world nations are doing just that."



You are living in Utopia with other liberals! I don't want you defending me. You'll be hiding under the couch!

You don't understand how equality levels the battlefield.
apugh96 8 months ago
Juan, did you take into consideration that some of those homicides might not have taken place if the victim was able to protect him/herself? You won't win this debate.
apugh96 8 months ago
I agree Tsiya.
apugh96 8 months ago
That would put you on the terrorist list Calif. You'll be there with me. I answered back that he was unfamiliar with small town America and that we help our neighbors without being told.
apugh96 8 months ago
From: Ralph W. Moss

BIG NEWS FROM SWITZERLAND
On May 17, 2009, the people of Switzerland voted in favor of a constitutional amendment that supports the use of complementary medicine ( CAM ). A total of 67 percent of the population voted in favor. Thus Switzerland becomes the first country in Europe to set out in its constitution authority for the national government and its constituent states to take CAM into consideration in its health services. It is an astonishing victory and may set the model for other countries as well.




www.alternative- health-group. org
apugh96 8 months ago
Let's make a pact to ignore him!
apugh96 8 months ago
I hope that the deal falls through the cracks. I'm extremely against this plan. I would also like to see Big Pharma lowered a few notches. I don't believe in the allopathic paradigm. Pharmaceutical drugs foster dependency, not cure. Give us a choice! I opt out.
apugh96 8 months ago
Why do you insist on labeling people? We're not all one political party or another.
apugh96 8 months ago
I only pasted it once. They have a problem with their software.
apugh96 8 months ago
If a person is on government medical care in the US (Medicaid, SSDI, Veteran Medical, Obama's Health Plan) only approved treatments are covered. Big Pharma and the FDA make that decision. I have chosen an alternative route for the treatment of MS, no management drugs. I pay for nutritional therapy instead (including organic food) and I've recovered slowly but surely. I don't want anyone to be forced to pay for a system that wants to keep them sick. How would those agancies/businesses benefit by killing their cash cow? They make more from drug prescriptions and they create names of diseases and the drugs to control them. All chemical drugs have side effects. What do doctors do? They give you a drug for the side effect and the ride continues. \


Besides that, this is a ridiculus time to think that employers can afford to pay. Will they be able to tell you how to live your life so that they have lower insurance rates? Don't fix it if it ain't broke!
apugh96 8 months ago
My family has a ranch in Texas and my aunt worked on the GW campaign. She regrets it still. The second campaign pitted Bush against Kerry. A well planned strategy. Voting for Bush (which I didn't vote for either) seemed like the lessor of two evils. It turns out that they were in the same evil college fraternity, Skull and bones! I was happy to see GW leave but I'm NOT happy with his replacement. We jumped from the frying pan into the fire. We haven't had a good president during my adult life. We had an opportunity with Ron Paul but we missed it.
apugh96 8 months ago
Yeah, that would make it difficult for criminals to commit violent crimes! Do you think they buy their weapons where they have to register them?

Drop the hences and thuses. It doesn't make you seem more intelligent when the idea is so ideal-like. Most people don't have guns to protect themselves from the military but if we ever have to, I don't want to be in standing there holding a slingshot!
apugh96 8 months ago
These politicians make promises when they have little knowledge of how to do the job. I would rather they say they'll try than to promise something they can't deliver.
apugh96 8 months ago
Sorry. I can sympathize.
apugh96 8 months ago
More on Gore and Hara. Busted by MSM.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/06/03/headline-gore-backed-hara-sees-profit-low-carbon-economy
apugh96 8 months ago
I am unable to walk. It took two years and I had to be devoid of any personal property that had any value before I qualified for disability. I paid taxes (all types) for 30 years. I get a cost of living benefit of under $650. I know that some illegal imigrants get more than that. No complaints. I'm lucky to be getting anything.
apugh96 8 months ago
Typing in all caps is poor Internet etiquette. It seems like you're screaming. Are you?
apugh96 8 months ago
I hope the people who want freedom in this country have the power to save it!
apugh96 8 months ago
We have come to think of sick care as health care. People need to do more preventative care and stay away from allopathic medicine and Big Pharma. That would eliminate some of the cost.
apugh96 8 months ago
I know that, you know that. Does Joe Blow know that? It would seem to me that the only people who think this is a good idea want something for nothing.
apugh96 8 months ago
When over 30,000 scientists say that global warming is due to sun spots, not man, and the UN is promoting the hoax, we ought to look at the motivation behind it. I live in big ranch country and the smell of cows isn't the problem either. The smell around feedlots and factory farms may be a different story. We have lots of grass and lots of sky. Global warming is a ploy to tax us. Plants thrive on CO2.
apugh96 8 months ago
God said love the sinner, not the sin. What you Christian bashers fail to realize is that organized religion and faith in God are not in the same category.
apugh96 8 months ago
Bush WAS involved in the 9/11 invasion. He was the false front for a much larger group. Do some homework. Don't be so blind to conspiracies. They happen on many levels. Two people can form a conspiracy. 9/11 put us into a police state. Our personal records are being collected in the name of National Security. Guns are being threatened, civilians are being forced to volunteer for a militia. This is slavery from the conception. Wake up! The signs are all around. I don't think that the potential danger is going to happen overnight but it is esculating.
apugh96 8 months ago
You could be right. Obama and his leaders have had an agenda long before the election. The Illuminati Elite have had the NWO planned forever. I doubt that Obama has even read the posts.
apugh96 8 months ago
FreedomFighter, You're starting to become very annoying! It isn't necessary to post this repetitively. You're flooding the site and this goes unread when it's shoved down our throats! If you have something to say, say it. This copy and paste crap needs to end!
apugh96 9 months ago
A friend and I just had a convesation about how we played outside when we were kids and we didn't come home until we heard the bell, or whistle or call from mom. Kids today are plopped in front of their TV babysitter or they play computer games, What happened to kick the can, dodge ball and hide and seek. What happened to roller skates and bicycles? We need to get these kids in the sun and have them playing with each other. I'm all for PE.
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, what do you suggest to solve this problem. Abstinence or for men to be able to walk away?
apugh96 9 months ago
I'm concerned about those too. I wonder what kind of bioweapons might be sprayed to control the masses or if this is a way to dispose of toxic waste (which would basically do the same thing).

STOP CUTTING AND PASTING THE SAAME INFORMATION! WE GET IT! It makes reading other posts difficult because wading past yours takes too much time.
apugh96 9 months ago
I get your point Blackmon. What I don't think is being considered is the child. The child becomes a victim. I think that before the act is performed that both parents are accepting responsibility. You know what you could possibly face. You can't force a person to do something to their own body and knowing what the potential outcome might be makes BOTH parents liable. A woman who has an abortion gets the guy off the hook but the baby pays the price. No, I don't think that a man should have the ability to voluntarily walk away. I also don't think that abortion should be considered as an ethical form of birth control.

I'll say it again. Don't play if you can't pay.
apugh96 9 months ago
A good example of this flawed system is right here on this site. The votes are tabulated incorrectly. The numbers aren't adding right when we vote. I vote positive when the topic has 5 votes and the number changes to 4. It happens too often to think that people are voting at the same time.
apugh96 9 months ago
These long off-topic posts aren't relevant here and are too long to wade through to get to the point of the conversation. Stop posting them on EVERY topic!
apugh96 9 months ago
Since there is no law that requires any of us to pay income tax, why would it be fair to tax wealthy people on their income? This is not capital gains which companies already pay. The solution prescrbied here is like putting a bucket under a leak in the roof. It makes more sense to fix the hole. The government should spend less but they are driven by the Feds. to spend more. The government is NOT for the people. The Elitists/Illuminati are for themselves!

There are exceptions.
apugh96 9 months ago
This letter was written by a viewer of The Glenn Beck Show. Why not vote on its merits and not the origin?
apugh96 9 months ago
There sure is a lot of identity fraud surrounding this Presidency!
apugh96 9 months ago
This is another attempt of ES&S (Election Systems and Software)to conrol the votes, major red flag. Diebold and Sequoia are two other corporations with vote counting software. This is further votefraud. Three corporations will control the vote counting. Who owns the corporations?

There is no record of actual votes, no accountability. George Bush was elected president by a fraudulent Diebold vote count and Al Franken sued and won his post because of a similar situation. There would be no proof that the voter was legally registered or that the person registered was the actual voter.
apugh96 9 months ago
As our Leader said: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”


This is the ONLY thing that I agree with that Obama has said. He just left out that we need to protect ourselves from HIM!
apugh96 9 months ago
Ev, talking about it is not hysterical. Not talking about it makes you unprepared. Obama is leading us into an unknown zone and he is going too fast in a direction where I don't want to go. How can you possibly like the changes?!
apugh96 9 months ago
How would you, or how do you? I'm more concerned with the second ammendment. Without the 2nd we may not be able to protect the 1st!
apugh96 9 months ago
This is much bigger than the state level. Haven't you all noticed that only five or so things happen all over the country and these few stories are on every channel? We have more activity in the tiny community where I live. Omission has become very popular along mainstreet.
apugh96 9 months ago
They DO want gun control. Obama knowingly lied when he said he wasn't going to take our guns. Eric Holder is trying to slip a bill though to make gun shows illegal and I doubt that is all his bill will seek. I never had a gun, never wanted one until now!
apugh96 9 months ago
I suppose there will be new hazardous waste legislation. I don't want to breath mercury fumes and I would rather the bulbs not be sold. I already have mercury toxicity from amalgam fillings (and probably childhood vaccines). Yet another project to allow someone else to stick their hand in my pocket! It's getting crowded in there! No money, lot's of fingers.
apugh96 9 months ago
Take your blinders off folks! This has longterm ramifications! It will effect you in ways that have never been seen.
apugh96 9 months ago
belle, it doesn't come out and say that parks are under IUCN control but if you do an Internet search on that organization you will find out what they do and what they control. The World Bank through the Federal Reserve doesn't give something without collateralizing their loan. Our country has federal land and national parks. All are under UN control. The UN has a grip on 60% or more of our country. Those who made it possible aren't making it public knowledge. This is considered treason by many of us, the rest are blissfully ignorant. This started around 1968 but World Domination is ancient.

rejean, another few things for you to research-

Socialist Fabian Society
Votefraud (who owns Diebold? http://www.votefraud.org/News/2000/4/040900.html)
apugh96 9 months ago
This was a long letter. I didn't expect that it would be read by all and I never expected a copy of the Constitution (Happy)!

This letter could have been written by many people here. It itemizes the problems that we face with our government, the World government.
apugh96 9 months ago
Obama is destroying our freedom, he's destroying the country. He's doing what the Globalists put him here to do.
apugh96 9 months ago
The time to renounce paternity or maternity is before conception. After that it's time to take responsibility.
You know going in that there might be an unwanted result. Think before you act.
apugh96 9 months ago
I'm not for abortion but an accidental (careless) pregnancy isn't the only reason that they're performed. Sometimes it's done for medical reasons, rape, incest. I have conflicting feelings in these cases. It's a personal issue, not a government decision. My body, my soul, my life, my decision. I'm not young enough for this to be a personal issue. I don't like government (public)funding for those who need financial assistance for healthy, unplanned children. You play, you pay. I do have compassion for the innocent children and I want them to have access to care. This is a double edged sword.
apugh96 9 months ago
Rooster why on Earth did you vote this up?
apugh96 9 months ago
We think we have rights but we don't. Ths is bigger than National sovereignty. It's World domination.
apugh96 9 months ago
Sad but true tsiya!
apugh96 9 months ago
There are no promises kept by Obama!
apugh96 9 months ago
Pervert!
apugh96 9 months ago
I thought this was a joke and I clicked on the link expecting to see a rooster! This is not funny. Thank goodness I'm using dial-up and all I saw was the title. The post has been flagged.
apugh96 9 months ago
The mainstream media will spin this around until we're dizzy. They work for the government.
apugh96 9 months ago
The Obama administration is on a swift boat! They want to rush everything through before the people realize what a calamity they're creating. They write huge proposals that no one has time to read in their entirety and there is usally some pork sandwiched in.
apugh96 9 months ago
It happened way before the last generations of Bushes. It started with the creation of The Federal Reserve in 1915.
apugh96 9 months ago
"I hereby extend to the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources the privileges and immunities that provide or pertain to immunity from suit. To this effect, the following sections of the International Organizations Immunities Act shall not apply to the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources:"


The International Union is a branch of the United Nations (IUCN). They have full control of National Parks in the guise of preservation. Americans don't need foreigners to preserve our property. This document does not outline the trade but do a search on the Internet, go to the library and read about the UN involvement in this country. It is massive. This EO gave the IUCN permission to make decisions at many National Parks, The Grand Canyon and Yellowstone being among them.

Read this and investigate more:

http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield59.htm
apugh96 9 months ago
Obama doesn't listen to us. If he did he would know how much disdain, distrust, dislike we have for him!
apugh96 9 months ago
I'm hoping that Congressmen and Senators will eventually see the light!
apugh96 9 months ago
Executive Order 13233
Executive Order 13233[1] limited access to the records of former United States Presidents. It was drafted by then White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and issued by George W. Bush on November 1, 2001. Section 13 of Order 13233 revoked Executive Order 12667 which was issued by Ronald Reagan on January 18, 1989.
The Order was partially struck down in October 2007, and Barack Obama completely revoked it, by Executive Order 13489[2] on January 21, 2009, his first full day in office. However, as long as no bill is passed by Congress with regard to this issue, any future president is free to issue yet another order to take the place of the revoked order 13233, just as Order 13233 revoked Order 12667.


Obama has no trouble making the past transparent. The present.....
apugh96 9 months ago
Mon, what does your poor spelling say about YOU?

gulibility

birther
apugh96 9 months ago
Who will try Obama's BC case?
apugh96 9 months ago
Mikhail Gorbachev uses a closed military base at the opening of the Golden Gate Bridge to manage two UN operations, the Crooked Cross (named for the Swastika) and the Green Cross (a faux environmental group). California is home to many communists, including their governer! Schwartiniger has done a good job in detroying the economy and morality there. He must please his masters.
apugh96 9 months ago
YES!
apugh96 9 months ago
He wants your soul Rooster!
apugh96 9 months ago
rejean, I read a lot and I watch conspiracy DVDs. I check the resources to verify the information. The secret government would surprise you! I like to pass the information along but sometimes people don't want their World to be shaken. Ignorance is bliss to most people. Not to me. The Bible tells the whole story but the heros who tell the secrets from personal experience fill in the details. Some of those heros have been assassinated.

Some things to reserseach:
Bohemian Grove
Bilderberg Group

Jekyll Island (The Federal Reserve) Get the book "Creature of Jekyll Island" by G. Edward Griffin or download it here: http://www.spielbauer.com/JekyllDownload.htm
Executive Order 13139 Military vaccinations
Sherri Tenpenny Vaccinations, what's in them
David Rockefeller Sanafi, vaccines
CFR (Council of Foreign Relations)
Trilateral Commission- David Rockefeller
Club of Rome
Freemasonry
Jesuits, Society of Jesus (not a Christian group)
The Commission of 300

This is a small list that will keep you busy for awhile. Each discovery will lead to a new search!




apugh96 9 months ago
Tell Obama & Vilsack to Drop Bush's Pro-GMO Rules
Just before leaving office, the Bush Administration released a new federal law that would significantly weaken the regulation of genetically engineered crops. Please join the Organic Consumers Association in pressing President Obama and USDA Secretary Vilsack to drop Bush's pro-GMO rule. The rule would increase contamination of organic and conventional crops and release the USDA from the responsibility to remedy GMO contamination. It would let the GE pharmacrop industry gene-splice dangerous drugs and industrial chemicals into plants and food crops in the open environment. In addition, the rule would give the biotech industry the power to decide whether their new genetically engineered crops should be subject to regulation at all. In the 2008 presidential race, Obama promised "change we can believe in." We need a change from the Bush Administration's pro-GMO policies.
apugh96 9 months ago
Funny. These guys don't wrestle or make movies but they always win their bouts and they get filmed a lot.
apugh96 9 months ago
Because the media is owned by the Bilderbergers, an elitist group that supports the NWO.
apugh96 9 months ago
This topic is not about a frigging BC! Get with the program Blackmon! Spread your news in relevant posts.
apugh96 9 months ago
YES!!!!
apugh96 9 months ago
There is already a law to eliminate incandescent bulbs by 2014.
apugh96 9 months ago
What article?
apugh96 9 months ago
The kids who did the shooting at schools WERE diagnosed by psychiatrists and were taking psycotropic drugs. Psychiatry is a made-up medical profession. There is NO science behind it. The drugs warp their mental capabilities, make them unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Parents should be responsible for teaching their children what reality is and how to cope. Take the damn computer away if they can't handle it!
apugh96 9 months ago
I believe that America and allies are in the same cabal and each member has a job to do to reach the NWO agenda. Obama's BC is the only thing that concerns you, or seems to be. You have a limited scope! You've made your point. Move on.
apugh96 9 months ago
What are you trying to achieve?
apugh96 9 months ago
What else might Obama be hiding?
apugh96 9 months ago
And the scary thing is that the legislators keep making new laws to break. Do we wonder why?
apugh96 9 months ago
Read the book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins and find out why we give money to foreign countries. The countries end up with huge debt and obligations. They are often required to spend some of the money to contract American and ally countries for construction, weapons, products making a certain few men richer and then they open the gate to the World. The countries think they're getting help but it's strategy for the NWO agenda. Nothing happens by accident.
apugh96 9 months ago
Rooster, you would win if anyone would be stupid enough to make that bet!
apugh96 9 months ago
With the new private prisons (and the FEMA concentration camps around the country) there ought to be enough space to separate violent criminals from the non-violent ones. That would make more sense than exposing the non-violent to the violent and then trying to reintroduce them into society. I actually think that non-violent criminals are making these private jailers rich!
apugh96 9 months ago
Maybe the words purposely, physically, sexually would be more definitive. Obama can pardon himself! He learned that from GW.
apugh96 9 months ago
There are some honest politicians and it gives me hope. Remember the names and vote for them! I pray that they stay strong in their convictions and keep pummeling their crooked colleagues until they crack!
apugh96 9 months ago
It was you who brought up the "birfer" subject again. You're starting to sound like a broken record. Have you noticed that this issue is important to the majority of members who have responded on this site? We can each take small steps, in this case, ban together and force Obama to present his records. After that we can keep moving forward en mass. The birther issue has gone unanswered and has been protected/hidden by Obama and his staff. It may have started as a hoax (I don't know that it did or didn't) but Obama is hiding something and we need to take that into consideration. If he's hiding his records, what else is he hiding? We can't wait until it's too late. I'm taking Obama's example and getting on the swift boat in this case. I decided to prepare myself and my family for the emergency that I hope never happens.
apugh96 9 months ago

It doesn't matter if the birther issue is a lie. It is unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Obama was groomed for the job and the powers that put him in position control everything. The birther issue is clouding the seriousness of this well planned destruction. Get past it! Come up with something constructive.
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, you were outed by that teabag comment. Welcome to reality. I hope that you stay awhile and join the revolution.
apugh96 9 months ago
Don't single out Rahm Emanuel the whole cabinet stinks!

I don't look good in brown.
apugh96 9 months ago
Diebold is rigged. Bush was elected, fraudulently, for a second term because this machine added to his votes. There was no way to verify but there was testimony that the machines were fallible by a high ranking member of the company. I saw a video clip from the trial on Aaron Russo's "From Freedom to Fascism" DVD.
apugh96 9 months ago
Your idea sounds great. It was when Nickola Tesla had it! JP Morgan paid for the studies and smashed the machine when he wasn't going to make any money from free energy! The evil started a long time ago and continues today.
apugh96 9 months ago
The symbol that he replaced the American flag with is the Illminati "all seeing eye" and the three stripes represent Isis, Osiris and Horus. If Obama sees himself as a god, he is referring to a pagan god. This is a Masonic symbol, NWO. Obama is a 32nd degree Mason at Prince Hall. All US presidents since the beginning were masons except Kennedy and he was a Knights of Columbus Jesuit. Obama's identity will be protected by his brother masons and their Jesuit leaders.
apugh96 9 months ago
EO 13139! The post kept coming up before I hit the button.
apugh96 9 months ago
This is a great DVD. Obama says that there is no evidence of the NAU and Bush iniated NAFTA a few years ago! He also says that he isn't a member of the CFR (Council of Foreign Reations) but he has spoken at their meetings and his wife is a member.
apugh96 9 months ago
"Intrusive" offends your sensibility but "abrasive" doesn't!? I was describing how I feel about the idea that you posted. I didn't relize that you were in charge of vernacular and this wasn't a personal attack.
apugh96 9 months ago
Executive order 133139 and the testing of vaccinations on American Soldiers. The horros that are kept secret would astound the disbelieving pulic. There are no good secrets.
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, I'm glad that this pleases you. I have more info aout Executive order 13
apugh96 9 months ago
Info, we clearly don't share the same opinion. I find your intended censorship of my views offensive. Therefore, I have flagged you in retaliation. I really don't care that the URL agrees with this approach, I don't agree!
apugh96 9 months ago
As far as I'm concerned, this is an unAmerican, intrusive, invasive plan! It isn't anyone's business what we do medically or how we pay for services. I don't want to be searched, analyzed or segmented!
apugh96 9 months ago
Worse. Obama thinks that the US belongs to him! Rather, his operators do. Obama isn't acting alone.
apugh96 9 months ago
luvwith, I'm glad that he riles you. That's his plan, the way he gets people to wake up and realize what's happening around them. Don't shoot the messenger!
apugh96 9 months ago
Obama doesn't tell the truth. If he gave an excuse, would you believe it?
apugh96 9 months ago
Believe it or not, it happens.
apugh96 9 months ago
Correct about the media but we are a Republic not a Democracy. I don't have a TV in my house anymore. I don't want liberal programming.
apugh96 9 months ago
Don't let this issue distract us from what Obama is doing. He's leading us into a NWO. Babal revisited.
apugh96 9 months ago
People who live in White Houses shouldn't throw stones!
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, it's so kind of you to understand that we have permission to question, but the permission doesn't come from you. The questions haven't changed and thwy will continue to be asked until an acceptable answer is given by Obama. There is no doubt that few people in public arenas are jaded and will play the suck-up card when their jobs are in the pot. I don't trust Janet Okubo to be responsible for this country's future by making an unfounded claim. I want evidence.

How I feel about Obama and what he's done so far will not change by proof that he was born here. Proof that he was will not make him suddenly wonderful. Proof that he wasn't would not surprise me. He is destroying this country and we need to go into protective mode
apugh96 9 months ago
Accepted by whom? Illiterates?
apugh96 9 months ago
Reagan's birthplace was never questioned. This is another smokescreen, an irrelevant issue. Obama's birthplace IS questioned and he refuses to answer. Why?
apugh96 9 months ago
Maybe because they've gotten away with it for so long!
apugh96 9 months ago
I love the article in WND today that says without the long-form birth certificate, we don't have proof of who Obama's parents are/were.

Shut up Blackmon! You aren't the issue or the focus of this landmark case. What you say isn't going to convince people to stop asking questions. All we want are some honest answers...from Obama, not from you (as if either were possible)!
apugh96 9 months ago
We need a warn the people site. The government already has an agenda. They don't want any suggestions from the useful idiots. Some politicians are better than others but those at the top were put there by more powerful men, not by votes.
apugh96 9 months ago
Not from me!
apugh96 9 months ago

It isn't being enforced. There us too much legislation that overrides our foundation.
apugh96 9 months ago
It isn't being enforced. There us too much legislation that overrides our foundation.
apugh96 9 months ago
Our country is moving closer to fascism, socialism, communism. Obama didn't plan it but he is definitely involved, even if he WAS born here! Change your perspective and start focusing on the real issue.
apugh96 9 months ago
I say you're nuts. Maybe you would be happy if we didn't have free-speech. Change the channel if you don't like what he has to say. Treason has a lot of loop-holes.
apugh96 9 months ago
This is a typical smokescreen and mirror trick. It doesn't matter who is sueing Obama or what's behind their motivation. Obama wants this kept secret and ensured that his own lawyers keep him shielded. Demeaning people is the only weapon in your arsenal. I think youre shooting blanks at this point. You're becoming redundant. You're surely not doing this to help enlighten people. You're acting like a security guard for Obama. You are entertaining sometimes.
apugh96 9 months ago
Here's an idea or two. Block this address in your email account and open another email account that you only use here.
apugh96 9 months ago
I think that people haven't asked because you are not qualified to answer. You provide hearsay from a blog.
apugh96 9 months ago
How can you be considered a racist when the person that you question is bi-racial?
apugh96 9 months ago
George Bush signed us into the NAFTA/SPP. Read here:

http://www.nauwarroom.org/index.php/history/2-background/17-history?tmpl=component&print=1&page=

Be very wary of eminent domain! Families, near where I live on the New Mexico/Colorado border, are fighting the government who has claimed ranches that have belonged to some of the families for over 100 years. The Government claimed the land by eminent domain so that they could build a military base. The town of Trinidad, CO gave the government permission to use it's water. The people of Trinidad can no longer water their yards because of a water shortage. The base has not been built and the whole community is fighting this. I hope the citizens win.
apugh96 9 months ago
The IG was fired before Obama's staff could do an investigation. If he has done something wrong they should accuse him and prove it. He never had a chance to defend himself. He was railroaded to discredit him.
apugh96 9 months ago
The sad thing that's happening is that good, honest small companies are selling out to conglomerates. A few companies own all the business. This is happening in every field. The incomplete pyramid on every dollar is coming to a head. We will have one World domination if we let this pattern continue. That will be the time that we face the Tribulation.
apugh96 9 months ago
Our rich friend, Bill Gates, has seeds stored in a vault with David Rockefeller and Monsanto.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7529


He and his wife donated a large sum of money to a Japanese scientist to do research into including vaccines in corn. Every corn product and animal fed corn will contain this vaccine. Corn syrup is in many processed foods. If this happens, every person who eats these foods will get vaccinated whether they want to be or not. Babies will get more toxic chemicals than their bodies can handle. Another frightening possibility: scientists are trying to get the vaccine into mosquitos. They may have had prior experience infecting deer ticks with Lyme disease.

This sounds crazy and most peopole won't believe it. Here's the story on Natural News:

http://www.naturalnews.com/026434_vaccines_vaccination_vaccinations.html

It's getting ugly when they hijack healthy food and outlaw supplements! Organic farmer's are also being criminalized in some cases.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/would_a_new_bill_in_congress_make.html
apugh96 9 months ago
Several years ago it was predicted that we would be in an ice age! There is no science behind the global warming theory. There IS money to be made by taxing energy!
apugh96 9 months ago
I like MMD (media of mass destruction)! I got this from Dr. Rima Laibow of Health Freedom USA.
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, some of the things that you think are lies are just different interpretations than yours.

It's like kicking a dead horse with you. You don't budge.
apugh96 9 months ago
Write some music and make this a song! Don't stop writing because one critic, who doesn't even bother to read this, has something negative to say. The words are very profound!
apugh96 9 months ago
I live near the base of a National Monument and busloads of scouts come every summer. They gather trash to earn a badge. I think they learn how to throw trash in the can and not on the ground.

Good idea poster!
apugh96 9 months ago
The people who are called "Birthers" or "Birfers" here usually try to talk sense to those who would rather belittle and insult instead of reason. I'm non-violent.
apugh96 9 months ago
What some people think is a hoax could also be slandered or twisted by an equally demented group. Obama does have a birth certificate and he has yet to show one that the state that he says he was born in accepts from all people as legal. Forget Berg. His case isn't the issue. Forget what McCain and Hillary say about verifying it, they aren't qualified to vouch for it's athenticity. Obama, your actions are suspect!
apugh96 9 months ago
This article shows Monsanto to be responsible for the death of bees around the World (colony collapse disorder):

http://www.organicconsumers.org/bees.cfm
apugh96 9 months ago

Really? Do you think they'd post their backroom meeting minutes on the Internet?

This is suggestive of more secrecy, which I believe is common in politics. It does not prove that Obama is a citizen. It only proves that there are those who wanted to bring this to the surface, for what-ever reason, and that there is a lot of coercion between the parties. It further indicates how easy it is to scam the public. They all deal from the bottom of the deck.

Obama's actions and how an unknown politition became the POTUS stirred up the inquiries as much as the Berg and Taits cases. He has still not proven his citizenship with a certified BC, lawsuits not withstanding. He has not acted in ways that represent Americans and he is leading us into socialism. If there is a way to get rid of him, we have to pursue it.

This is from the PUMA site:

http://helpmejoseph.typepad.com/puma_for_life/obama-eligibility/


apugh96 9 months ago
None of us were there and we can't say that we know the whole story. Not you, not me.


Obama has moved too quickly on all of his actions. His swift boat seems to be in a race! He tries to make things happen before we know what's going on!

He isn't popular where I live and neither was Bush!
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, I've been researching PUMA and they are no more reliable than you are!
apugh96 9 months ago
I want to read that Obama as POTUS is a hoax!
apugh96 9 months ago
God didn't make the laws of the country. I don't equate a pot grower with a murderer and they should not get sentenced equally. The CIA is responsible for the "drug war" not a man in a field sowing his seeds! Jails are full of non-violent law-breakers. The privately owned jails get paid for each prisoner. SCAM!

apugh96 9 months ago
"Must be the ACORN crowd arriving"

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa
apugh96 9 months ago
When did it become practice that a President of this country spend so much time and money trying to manage the World? One World Government folks! The Agenda is escalating!
apugh96 9 months ago
It could use some improvement.
apugh96 9 months ago
Evreport, get past the two party system. They're both crooked, they bow to the same master!

The "bad guys" in politics have a tendency to make the right seem wrong and the wrong seem right, an esoteric philosophy.

The IG was fired because he told the truth and he/we have been punished for it! He has fine morals that are rare in Washington, DC.

I don't approve of ANY of Obama's rush to action moves.
apugh96 9 months ago
When the movie Food, Inc. comes to an area near you or the DVD is released on Sept. 15th, watch it! The book has been available for awhile. Also get familiar with Monsanto and Codex if you aren't aleady. I don't go to the grocery store for food anymore. I eat organic produce, pastured meat, free-range eggs and raw butter/ dairy that I buy from trusted sources. I also grow my own during a very short growing season and a few people in my community started a co-op.
apugh96 9 months ago
This site has become the vent about Obama network!
apugh96 9 months ago
It's outdated and it doesn't represent the people well.
apugh96 9 months ago
Why do all of the people who call people ignorant have nothing intelligent to say?
apugh96 9 months ago
Unions are being repaid for making political contributions. I don't know any Union supporters.
apugh96 9 months ago
Can you give an example of when we had good government?
apugh96 9 months ago
By the way, the US is a Republic, not a democracy.
apugh96 9 months ago
Leave it to a liberal Democrat to try to silence free speech! Not everyone here is a primary party affiliate. Some of us are Libertarians/Constitutionalists.
apugh96 9 months ago
...and rationed. Did you ever see the movie Soylent Green with Carleton Heston? Soylent Green is made from PEOPLE! Get your rations. Accept the Mark of the beast!

NO THANKS.
apugh96 9 months ago
deb, what do you consider to be fair rules?
apugh96 9 months ago
Don't give the government more power, take some of their power away!
apugh96 9 months ago
It would be futile to argue about political parties. Democrats and Republicans share the same master.
apugh96 9 months ago
I don't believe that Obama is the mastermind behind the World Domination Agenda, he isn't smart enough and it started centuries ago. Obama is the puppet who was put in office by the Elites. The Elites will try to use him to turn whites against blacks again. One man cannot represent an entire race and one lunatic poster cannot influence people with sound minds. It is frustrating though, sometimes comical!

I still think that this would be a good title for his narcissistic autobiography!

apugh96 9 months ago
Brendanm, you and Blackmon fail to see that many people are concerned about the secrecy behind some important issues and we would like more answers. Not from you, whose opinions won't change things, but from those people who are qualified to do something about the situation. If all that either of you can do is insult and condemn people, you are of no help to anyone.
apugh96 9 months ago
Do you think that college graduates are going to pump septic tanks, farm the land, build roads? It takes all kinds of people to make this country work. I don't agree with anything that takes away personal choice. Education in school is graded on memory, not discovery.
apugh96 9 months ago
You continue to stereotype other people. You wrote that you left Australia because people called you names. That would make you a hypocrit. You are the Obamanite role model. We are all laughing at you too.

Like Obama, you are full of yourself (synonymous with crap).
apugh96 9 months ago
Is this the title of Obama's next book about himself?
apugh96 9 months ago
The Federal Reserve was created to control the people! They intentionally orchestrated the history. They still manipulate us!
apugh96 9 months ago
Some of us don't buy into allopathic medicine and choose to get healthy instead of treating sickness. I don't want to be forced into buying a policy that I don't intend on using. This "health care" plan supports the pharmaceutical companies and puts the government in control of the people. It should be the other way around. They work for us. It's time to remind them of that.
apugh96 9 months ago
And you are an antagonist who thrives on making fun of people!
apugh96 9 months ago
Global Warming is a hoax! Over 30,000 scientists say so. Al Gore is promoting taxes. He isn't promoting science!
apugh96 9 months ago
No thanks!
apugh96 9 months ago
That might work until they put the RFID chip into the paper money. The barter system isn't legal but if everyone does it descreetly than who can prove that it ever happened?
apugh96 9 months ago
Global Warming is a hoax. There are over 30,000 scientists that can argue the point. This is a plan to tax. It's all about money for the Elites and debt for the citizens. People do NOT cause Global Warming, sun spots do. Several years ago an ice age was predicted. Carbon Monoxide does not raise the temperature. It helps plants grow. I'm all for anti-pollution, but this tax and cap program is not a solution. It's another legislative strangle-hold. Those politicians are trying to repay their benefactors with our freedom.
apugh96 9 months ago
Why do you Obamaniacs want to hide the truth and proclaim transparency? The Fed has made us dependent on them. Aren't you tired of people telling you what do?
apugh96 9 months ago
We speak English in this country, like it or leave it!
apugh96 9 months ago
Who are you, the judge and jury? Censorship is not a good trait.
apugh96 9 months ago
Ron Paul has 218 cosponsors today!
apugh96 9 months ago
I gave this post a positive vote and it registered negative. This isn't the frst time that this has happened.
apugh96 9 months ago
Yes, Bush met with the Prime Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico before the North American Union bill was signed by all. Bush did this under radar as an executive order. The NAU is a spin-off of NAFTA and a precursor to One World Government. This is also in compliance with the Trilateral Commission founded by evil man David Rockefeller and his sidekick Zbigniew Brezenzski (who hand-picked Jimmy Carter AND Barrick Obama). These presidents were appointed not elected by the people.

Here is a link to an account by Lou Dobbs:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Wood/patrick18.htm

There are many available sources about this.
apugh96 9 months ago
It's OK to have Albert Pike (KKK founder, Mason) entombed in a federal building in Washington, D.C. but it is not OK to have a cross?! There is something very wrong with this picture. Why s it OK to have esoteric figures all over government buildings?
apugh96 9 months ago
OMG! Is this for real?
apugh96 9 months ago
Creek, I may know way more about the Trilateral Commission than you think. I'm against it! I don't want our great country to meld with anyone else. I'm not for One World Order and the Union is a step to getting there. I'm against the CFR, I'm against the UN, I'm against wars that profit the War Machine and the bankers, I'm against the Secret Government. I'm for liberty and freedom. We're moving away from that and some of you can't see it. The change has been gradual but it's accelerating!

Every President in the past and present were/are Masons. Masons have an agenda. They are on the higher levels of the pyramid. Normal, average people are on the bottom. We live in an oligarchy.
apugh96 9 months ago
Some of the people who voted for Obama did not even know the issues. Those who did know, and understood them, didn't vote for him.

There is serious voting machine fraud. It has been documented. Diebold machines have no record of accountability. The counter is in control.

It scares me that there are people like you in this country. You have very limited ways of expressing yourself. You repeat yourself continuously and your response does not have any validity. Your insults alienate you. This is my last response to your nonsense.
apugh96 9 months ago
This post raises the issue of the "carbon tax". You won't think it's stupid to prevent it when you face paying more for energy. Ron Paul is proposing that congress not play into this hoax.


U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas
In an attempt to inject some balance into the current push for "cap-and-trade" plans that would hit anyone who uses energy with massive new taxes and limits, U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, has asked Congress to consider the opinion of 31,478 scientists, including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s, who agree humans have nothing to do with any "global warming."
apugh96 9 months ago
The sinister group is the Elitists. The general population of American People are the slaves to this cabal. They want you to support the Facsist "leader". They want us to fight amongst ouselves. This has been a longtime plan. Read a history book. Follow the timeline and see the genocide. If you don't want this to happen to us in the future, do something to prevent it. Don't play follow the leader because he has charisma. All of the tyrants had/have that.
apugh96 9 months ago
You are missing the point, maybe deliberately. Obama is selling our sovereignty, taking away our freedoms and forcing this country into long-term debt to the Feds. Not showing proof that he is qualified to be the President, according to the US Constitution, is a tool that can be used to get him impeached. It could go either way but not trying is a guaranteed failure. It should be obvious to you by now that there is a large group of people who do not feel comfortable about his constant lawyering up to prevent this from going to court. This activity is suspect. Obama did not engineer this on his own.
apugh96 9 months ago
The truth is that he is unwilling to satisfy his constituents. What has he done to make you such an active supporter? Why do you think that he is acting alone? He is a frontpiece for a much more sinister group.

By the way, I have told the truth in every post. I have a different point of view than you do and we will never agree. Drop it. Stop calling people names. Accept the differences of opinion, the diversity. You are presenting a Fascist attitude.
apugh96 9 months ago
Allowing the Illegals in is a precursor to the Trilateral Union. Instead of worrying about Illegals taking your jobs, worry about the government selling your sovereignty. If we are concerned about foreign terrorists, why let our borders go unprotected? We are only looking at the trees. We need to look deeper into the forrest. There is an agenda that many people don't see. Open your eyes!
apugh96 9 months ago
Monrikker, He hasn't made it trasnsparently available to the public and we have an obligation to protect our Constitution.

I support HR 1207! Ron Paul would have made a good president.
apugh96 9 months ago
And you are a liberal!
apugh96 9 months ago
He IS transparent. Can't you see right through him?!
apugh96 9 months ago
And Al Gore, the mastermind in promoting global warming, makes a HUGE carbon footprint! He uses an excessive amount of electricity in his oversized house and is full of hot air! This is a plan to tax us more so that we end up with nothing but debt.
apugh96 9 months ago
Lawsuits concerning this issue have been dismissed but public awareness is growing despite the stonewalling.

Nice talk Blackmon! You just gave away your sexual peferences!
apugh96 9 months ago
I don't believe Dudley and I don't believe you. This can easily be cleared up by forcing Obama into court to show that he is qualified to hold the job. Whether or not he is good at it is another issue that he will also have to prove.
apugh96 9 months ago
NO! NO! NO!
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, I'm convinced. You changed my mind based on hearsay. I now think that you are delusional. I used to think that you had a narrow mind but it appears that you need mental attention! Good luck in getting help. With the new socialized medical plan, it may take a few months before you get admitted!
apugh96 9 months ago
You are naive. Obama has only proven that he feels no guilt about lying. I heard him say that he has no evidence of a Trilateral Union and that he doesn't have involvement with the CFR. Both statements are untrue.
apugh96 9 months ago
Blackmon, Good question. Where is the proof that a BC exists? That would be the smoking gun. We aren't trying to prove he doesn't have it. He needs to prove that he does. He is being opaque, not transparent at all. He is feeding speculation.

You aren't the only one has researched this.
apugh96 9 months ago
Great post. Thanks.
apugh96 9 months ago
M, you keep evading the issue. Is there a long-form birth certificate or not? Why is Obama paying a legal team to deny access to his records? What are these smoke and mirror tactics hiding? Why did I have to show mine to get a driver's license and he doesn't have to show his to qualify for his job? The more he hides, the more distrust builds against him. It doesn't matter how the question came up. It did and Obama hasn't given the correct answer. He gets an "F" for that.
apugh96 9 months ago
I'm on disability. I don't have the ability to walk (or stand). I used to pay income tax when I was able to work, I don't make enough now. I hope that you understand the distinction between those who can work and won't and those who want to and can't. The original post lumps everyone who doesn't work together. I vote.
apugh96 9 months ago
You are as much of a narcissist as the man you keep defending. When the country falls apart around you, don't be surprised. You help ensure that it happens by supporting the anti-Christ, Obama.
apugh96 9 months ago
Not everyone can own property but they can give their lives to the military. The income tax isn't even legal. There is no law on the books. Being a citizen gives you the right to vote. College students can vote, they don't all have jobs and very few own property. We pay tax on EVERYTHING! Foreigners pay tax on merchandise. This shouild not be Pay to Play issue.
apugh96 9 months ago
Shut up about it then! This is not a game to many people and we don't like being toyed with, by you or by the government. You've made your point and I don't agree with it.