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blackmonrikker
Member since : Jun-04-2009 (Verified)
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A typical Chinese laborer saves 30% of his meagre income. A typical American worker saves 2% of his bloated income. A typical American McDonald's worked makes three times what a typical Chinese laborer makes.
And we owe these people TWO TRILLION dollars.
President Obama, I am disappointed. YOU KNOW THESE NUMBERS ARE TRUE. I expected you to point this out and blaze a path to a stronger future.
Instead, you've noted that "America succeeds because of debt". You've admitted we can't maintain our bloated lifestyles by living within our means, not matter how much it hurts in the short term.
The National Debt may be keeping you up at night, but it's been MY nightmare for 20 years. And you are making it worse.
Where's the plan, dawg? WHERE'S THE PLAN!!!!!!
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/16676280/171
Just wanted to keep you OGD birfer loonies up to date on what your boy Phil Berg is doing. After being kicked to the curb by Jeff Taylor, the ever persistent Mr. Berg is attempting to get President Obama arrested on a charge of fraud. Mr. Berg presented the merits of his case to Mr. Taylor earlier this month and Mr. Taylor smirked and summarily dismissed it as looney, or rather "lacked merit".
Now Mr. Berg says the U.S. Attorney General is unqualified to make that decision because he "works for the President".
And the hits just keep on coming. Send in your money loonies. Phil needs to get his mortgage up to date.
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http://www.ocweekly.com/2009-06-18/news/orly-taitz
I thought you birfers would like to know your queen. And the reason I use the term 'birfer' instead of 'birther'.
This article is relatively excellent.
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Most of the time, what the Mainstream media reports is correct. There isn't any such thing as "liberal bias". That's a fictitious construct.
Right wingers are famous for creating fictitious red herrings to throw people off the scent of truth. It was right wingers who created the "Obama Born in Kenya" BC fiasco. It was right wingers who encouraged Ashley Todd to lie about being assaulted by an Obama supporter. It was right wingers who invented these legally toothless grand juries and then scream because the MSM doesn't give them publicity.
MSM doles out precious prime time minutes to VALID news stories, not right wing lies.
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/21/palin-spars-critics-ethics-complaints/
By her own admission, Sarah Palin has paid half a million dollars to fend off frivolous ethics complaints. If she isn't awash in ethical crimes, why doesn't she just admit her ethics shortcomings and this will all go away?
Because she CAN'T.
(Does this argument sound familiar, birfers?)
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http://216.221.102.26/blogger/post/White-House-Leaks-Story-of-Obamae28099s-Kenyan-Birth.aspx
Well, birfers, it appears I was wrong.
Can you ever forgive me for doubting you?
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http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=2442810129&frmid=8&msgid=1026997&cmd=show
Stephen Pigeon:
"The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects the right of the citizens to peaceably assemble. It does not protect citizens who intend insurrection. The contemplation of the founders has always considered the preservation of the republic and the rule of law to be paramount - against enemies foreign and domestic.
The Insurrection Act of 1807 allows for the use of the United States armed forces within the boundaries of the US in the event of any insurrection which threatens the functioning of the constitutional republic. Posse comitatus is not applicable to open insurrection.
Anyone who intends an escalation from a peaceable protest to acts of violence needs to rethink their position on behalf of the entire contrarian movement; you will do an immeasurable disservice to the patriots in this country who are seeking to restore the constitutional republic and the rule of law by lawful and just means. ANY ACT OF VIOLENCE DESTROYS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE MOVEMENT.
Let me put it more clearly: You cannot restore the rule of law by unlawful means! Claims to common law authority and other dicta that are not found in the juris prudence of the United States are not the law - they are merely "persuasive" authority, and do not provide for unlawful activity such as the use of force.
A "citizen's arrest" is a bald use of force that may possibly be justified later in a courtroom. In the event the case cannot be made, the person making the citizen's arrest will be charged with crimes associated with the arrest, including assault, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon, and other charges that may be applicable.
You should know that in making a citizen's arrest, the citizen to be arrested is authorized and justified in using all force necessary to combat the arrest. Where the President is concerned, you will be confronting a $7 trillion military machine against whom you stand no chance.
If your plan "D" includes violence, you need to immediately rethink your position and abandon the field. Make your voice heard - but if you can't win in the marketplace of ideas because the general population wants to move in a different direction, you have to consider either adjusting to the world they are making with objection, or make plans to live elsewhere.
The use of violence will destroy the movement that opposes Obama's presidency and will give the Feds justification to arrest many more freedoms, including shutting down all streams of contrary opinion - which includes Plains Radio.
Back off, while you still can."
Stephen Pidgeon State: WashingtonState: Washington
Ed Hale
"Folks, I called Steve early this morning and talked to him about this. He listen to the tape and then he post the above message in the forum. Steve told me that the only way that Obama can be removed from office is by impeachment from the congress, or death or not capable of preform his duties, or end of his term. He said it makes no difference if he is proven a fraud or not. No one can arrest him as long as he is the President, eligible or not eligible. That is the only way Obama can be removed from POTUS. This stuff that is being told that obama will be out of office by July 4th is BS. It will not happen. That is what Steve told me on the phone. For godsake, don't get angry and do something stupid."
Erudion? Cowardice? Or Common Sense?
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I'm a heterosexual guy. Honestly and unreservedly, I have no interest in abortion, gay rights or immigration laws. When the topics come up I shut up. I don't have a dog in the fight. I could care less.
But I have two questions about abortion.
If you are opposed to abortion, why not just NOT have an abortion and STFU?
The second question is more interesting.
If you support abortion rights for women, WHY DON'T MEN HAVE THOSE SAME RIGHTS??
For instance, a woman can choose to abort a child and the father has no say. But what if the father wants to abort the child and the mother says no? Why can't the father renounce his birthing rights? Isn't he an equal partner?
And while I know a man shouldn't have a say in what women do to their bodies, I think a man who doesn't want to be a parent should be able to say, "I renounce paternity. You raise this child by yourself."
Before you get your panties in a wad about children's rights to support, think about it. It's the SAME RIGHT WE GIVE TO WOMEN WHO SEEK ABORTIONS. "I renounce maternity. Get his fetus out of my body. I don't want to support it."
Why can't men have this same right?
Having considered this, I think I lean more to the anti-abortion camp.
Talk me down.
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The belief that Barack Obama was not born in the United States is supported by a vocal minority of the electorate. Birfers believe that if they can get this issue in front of more Americans, the issue will grow legs and begin to run on its own. Most birfers are aware that this idea is legally moot and based on innuendo, but believe that a rising tide of citizen outcry can keep Obama from running again in 2012.
Is this smart?
Even if birfers can triple their numbers, they still would only comprise 1.5% of the electorate. The risk here is that birferism is such a thin tissue of lies that many people who are indifferent about Obama could easily see thru the strategy. Conceivably, those people could be so annoyed by the tactic that they would move off the fence and into the Obama camp, thus nullifying birfer increases.
Additionally, the birfer cases are so legally weak several judges have literally laughed them out of court. Phil Berg's Interpleader action so annoyed Judge Robertson that he guffawed at the premise and sanctioned an 84 year old lawyer who assisted Berg. Judge Surrick denied Berg's claims as 'frivolous'. Even if 306 million Americans took up this issue, their collective voices would be shouted down by Janet Okubo's endorsement of Obama's Hawaiian BC.
Rather than continue to beat this dead horse, is it not smarter to challenge Obama based on his policies? You may get a more sympathetic ear from the American electorate. The "We Hate Bush" crowd is about played out. Obama has got to start owning this.
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Recently, Hawaiian DOH official Janet Okubo weighed in on the validity of Barack Obama's birth certificate:
http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html
"...The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.
Asked about that document, Okubo said, "This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate."
So, Obama's posted BC isn't any different that any other BC's issued by Hawaii's DOH.
"JUST SHOW US THE BC, MR. PRESIDENT!!!" is getting a little tired, isn't it?
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He must have been a two-term usurper!!
"Birth certificates were not common in this country until the first decade of the 20th century, so most of our presidents would not have had birth certificates. I cannot find the reference at this moment, but at least one of Ike's biographies I have read was explicit that he did not have a birth certificate. Neither did Harry Truman, although the folks from his home town issued him one after he became President to make up for that shortfall. Ronald Reagan is perhaps the most recent President born without a BC, as Illinois was late to come on board with requiring birth certificates until after his 1911 birth."
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Is this a denial of justice to the birfers? Or an acknowledgment of incompetence by birfer lawyers?
Birfers claim they cannot get their cases heard based on the merits.
Do they REALLY want their cases heard based on the evidence Berg, Taitz and Kreep have advanced so far? The Kenyan Birth Theory complete with an inadmissible Sarah Obama tape? The Dudley Doright BC? The blatant lies and tampering of evidence done by Phil Berg? Or the glaring puddle of judicial incompetence that is Orly Taitz?
Is is better for the courts to dismiss these cases or actually allow birfoon lawyers to perform?
I say the latter. I'm DYING to see the expression on a judge's face when Orly shows up and says, "Evidence doesn't matter!!" or "That conclusion goes without showing!!!" as she is prone to say. I want Phil Berg to explain the Dudley Doright BC and the redacted Sarah Obama tape.
I want to hear Phil's reaction when discovery is allowed the the State of Hawaii sends in a BC that looks exactly like the COLB on Obama's site.
So, YES, I want to have these cases heard!!
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Many of you have wondered where I got the Dudley Doright BC story.
Here is the link: http://www.rense.com/general82/pbb.htm
Note the BC listed at this site. Phil Berg lifted this BC off the Internet and actually submitted it to a court as evidence that Obama is not a citizen.
Phil's original filing also claimed that Obama's half brother and sister had testified that Obama was born in Kenya. Phil has since backed off that claim, inasmuch as Obama's half brother is heard vehemently denying that Barack Obama Jr. was born in Kenya on the tape. Phil filed his lawsuit before the tape was made; his allegations in his filing was based on what he expected to get, not what he had.
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Linda Starr, aka Linda Sue Belcher, invented the birfer story in June 2008. An avid Hillary Clinton supporter and feminist, Linda fully admits to doing the research which will lead to the Usurper's downfall.
Unable to obtain a copy of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate, and knowing that Obama's father was from Kenya, Linda correctly deduced that Obama Jr. must have been born in Kenya. Linda also dredged up Obama's Indonesian school records which list his childhood name as Barry Soetoro and his religion as Muslim.
With these facts in hand, Linda approached Phil Berg. Phil invented a Canadian BC signed by Dudley Doright and submitted a non-existent interview with Obama's grandmother as evidence in his initial court filings. And that's how the birfer story took off.
But what else has Linda given us? Thankfully, she herself tells us.
1) Linda was instrumental in the Rathergate affair. She supplied the infomation to CBS News about George Bush's malfeasance during his days flying jets for the National Guard. Why? Linda claims her distaste for Bush stems from the fact that Bush physically assaulted her in the nineties, leading to a long term debilitating depression which left her unable to work.
2) Linda claims she has evidence that teenaged Laura Bush murdered her 17 year old boyfriend back in the sixties.
3) Linda claims that she has evidence that Michelle Obama was disbarred in Illinois in 1993 for insurance fraud.
Last month Phil Berg sued Linda Sue Belcher et al on behalf of his assistant, Lisa Liberi, for libel. He claims that Linda publicly accused Lisa of having an extensive criminal history. Linda's rationale for making these claims is that Lisa's criminal history would undermine her credibility when the birfer cases actually come to court.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14978528/Taitz-Hale-Complaint-05-04-2009
Since that time, Linda has publicly accused Phil Berg of incompetence. She pointed out monetary sanctions levied at Berg five years back in which Berg was ordered to pay $10K and take ethics courses by a judge.
These are the people who invented the birfer story.
Linda's blog is: http://obamacitizenshipdebate.org/ Linda's email address is: newwomensparty@aol.com
Phil Berg's website is: www.obamacrimes.com Phil's email address is: philjberg@obamacrimes.com
I encourage you to email them and get their side of the story.
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http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
"...A separate WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren't originally there.
The Berg lawsuit contends there is enough truth in the various reports to conclude, "Unfortunately, Obama is not a 'natural born' citizen."
The suit alleges that while records exist of a "registry of birth" for Obama in Hawaii (filed four days after his claimed birthday), no records exist of his mother's stay in any Hawaii hospital, suggesting she may have given birth elsewhere and filed the registration shortly thereafter on American soil.
"Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya," the suit states. "Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth."
The claim could not be verified by WND inquiries to Hawaiian hospitals, since state law bars the hospitals from releasing medical records to the public.
Even if Obama produced authenticated proof of his birth in Hawaii, however, the suit claims that the U.S. Nationality Act of 1940 provided that minors lose their American citizenship when their parents expatriate. Since Obama's mother married an Indonesian citizen and moved to Indonesia, the suit claims, she forfeited both her and Barack's American citizenship.
However, there doesn't seem to be any evidence Ann Dunham expatriated. Also, consulting citizenship experts contend that if Obama indeed obtained Indonesian citizenship, it simply would not have been recognized by the U.S., but the presidential candidate would retain his American citizenship.
Even after her divorce and return to the U.S., the suit says, "Obama's mother failed to take the oath in order to regain her U.S. Citizenship. Therefore, Obama would not have been able to regain his U.S. Citizenship until he turned 18 years (and) after he took the oath of allegiance."
"Since the oath of allegiance would have been entered in the records of the appropriate embassy, legation, consulate, court or the Attorney General, if Plaintiff is incorrect, then Obama should be able to produce in Court a certified copy of the proceedings, including a copy of the oath administered," the suit states.
The lawsuit then claims an investigation has shown that in 1981, "Obama traveled to Pakistan using his Indonesian passport. At the time of travels to Indonesia, Obama was 20 years old. He was well aware he maintained his Indonesia citizenship, and failed to regain his United States citizenship. … Even if Obama maintained his United States Citizenship, which he failed to do, he also carries citizenships in Kenya and Indonesia. Obama has divided loyalties with foreign countries. Thus, Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States."
A WND investigation could not find any proof Obama used an Indonesian passport to travel to Pakistan. However, WND noted that Pakistan in 1981 was under military rule and that it was difficult for U.S. citizens to travel to the country without assistance – meaning, it would have been easier to enter Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
Berg claims his lawsuit is necessary, not only to protect the Constitution, but also to protect the integrity of the Democratic Party.
"If the DNC officers and/or leaders had performed one ounce of due diligence, we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship," said Berg in his press release. "The injunctive relief must be granted because failing to do so, (the DNC's) inaction defrauds everyone who voted in the Democratic Primary."
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4. MOTION TO QUASH OF PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN, AND 55 CALIFORNIA ELECTORS OR, IN THE ALTERNATIVE, FOR AN ORDER THAT THE DEPOSITION OF THE CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS OF OCCIDENTAL COLLEGE NOT BE TAKEN.
Respondents President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, and the 55 California Electors named as respondents move for an order quashing the subpoena by petitioners directed to third party Occidental College demanding access to President Barack Obama’s “academic and housing records.” In the alternative, they seek an order that the deposition of the custodian of records of Occidental College not be taken.
The moving parties seek relief pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure sections 1987.1, 2025.410, and 2025.420. They contend that the subpoena and the associated notice to the consumer were improperly served. They contend that the subpoena is vague and overbroad and seeks information that is neither relevant to this lawsuit nor reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence.
The motion is granted on all grounds stated. Code of Civil Procedure section 1985.3 requires that a copy of subpoena seeking access to confidential consumer records be served on the consumer whose records are sought at least five days before service on the custodian of records. (Code Civ. Proc. § 1985.3(b)(3).) If served by mail within this State, this time limit is extended to ten days pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure section 1013(a). In this case, the notice and subpoena to Occidental College were mailed either the day before or the very same day Occidental College was served. (Woocher Decl., pars. 2-3 and Exs. 1-2.) This is insufficient.
Petitioners contend that respondents waived any objection by failing to object for twenty-seven days. The Court finds this argument without merit. The motion to quash was filed within the period provided for by Code of Civil Procedure section 2025.410(b).
The Court further finds that the two categories of documents petitioners seek are vague, overbroad, and are of no relevance to this litigation. Petitioners demand access to all of President Obama’s “academic and housing records.” However, the relevance of such records is not established. The issues raised in the First Amended Petition concern the duties, if any, of the respondents to demand proof of natural born citizenship of a candidate for President. Petitioners have not shown that any of the documents sought could assist in answering this question. Petitioners’ argument that they could have sought even more documents is not persuasive, nor is their argument that more specific objection was needed pursuant to Code of Civil Procedure section 2031.240(b).
Moreover, this lawsuit is moot as to issues concerning President Obama. The Court on this date is prepared to sustain demurrers to the petition without leave to amend. But even if the court were to overrule the demurrers, the First Amended Petition contains no claims as to which the records sought are relevant.
The motion to quash the subpoena is GRANTED.
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http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/ is reporting that President Obama has won damages in the Bowen vs Keyes case. Obama was awarded $520 in court costs and attorneys fees.
That pretty much tells us how much it costs him in attorney's fees to file for these dismissals. From there we can extrapolate and get a good feel for how much these birfer suits are costing Obama. LESS THAN $10K. TOTAL
JUST LIKE I SAID.
Keyes v Bowen: Cost Awarded
Adding insult to injury, the Court has awarded the following cost in the case Keyes v Bowen
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED, ADJUDGED, AND DECREED:
1 . That the First Amended Petition for Writ of Mandate is dismissed;
2, That respondent Secretary of State Debra Bowen shall recover costs in the amount of $350.00 pursuant to Government Code section 6103.5;
3 . That respondent President Barack Obama shall recover costs in the amount of $520.00;
4. That respondent Vice-President Joe Biden shall recover costs in the amount of $520.00;
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Nyuck! Nyuck! Nyuck!! I TOLD ya so.
(Washington, DC – 06/11/2009) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the first Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama's lack of Constitutional "qualifications/eligibility" to serve as President of the United States and his cases that are still pending, Berg vs. Obama [2 cases – 1 under seal] and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, et al, announced today that United States Attorney General Eric Holder refused to prosecute President Barack H. Obama for Obama illegally running for and holding the U.S. Senate seat from Illinois because he was Constitutionally ineligible to be a U.S. Senator.
False Claims Act [FCA] case is when a person has knowledge that another party has obtained money from the Government based on a false claim. In this instance, in order to be a United States Senator, you must be a United States Citizen for nine [9] years. Obama is not a United States Citizen and therefore, usurped the Office of U.S. Senator for Illinois and obtained payment from the U.S. Department of the Treasury based on his false statements that he was a U.S. Citizen and constitutionally eligible to serve the position of United States Senator.
Berg said, “What a miscarriage of justice! At a closed door hearing on June 9, 2009 because of the status of the “sealed case,” sealed because of the nature of the case, that being a “Qui Tam” or FCA [False Claims Action] case, the Attorney General through his representatives refused to proceed with the prosecution of Obama for fraudulently serving as a U.S. Senator from Illinois for 3 ½ years. [FCA cases are usually used in Medicare/Medicaid fraud cases]”
Berg continued, “I presented overwhelming evidence that Obama was ineligible to be a U.S. Senator and therefore, Obama fraudulently received a salary and benefits of nearly $1 Million Dollars. Since the case was ‘Dismissed with Prejudice’ it is now ‘Unsealed’ and the record is open for review. The case, Berg vs. Obama, U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, No. 08-cv-1933 and is available on Pacer or our website, obamacrimes.com.
I, Phil Berg, will be Appealing this case !” Berg said, “During oral argument, I raised the issue of a ‘Conflict of Interest’ as Attorney General Holder’s boss is the President Barack H. Obama, so how could they properly review this case? I suggested the appointment of a Special Prosecutor.
I also raised the issue that any Discovery used in the Government’s decision to have the case dismissed, which was secured by the U.S. Department of Justice and U.S. Attorney General’s Office should be turned over to me as the Relator, however, no Discovery was turned over.”
Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution entrusts the Executive, which includes the United States Attorney General, with duty to take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed. Berg stated, “I am very disappointed that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder through his Staff has failed to uphold his duties.”
Berg concluded, "I am not giving up and am continuing my legal fight to prove Obama is not constitutionally qualified/eligible to be President of the United States. I am proceeding for the 305 + million people in 'our' U.S.A., for 'our' forefathers and for the 1.5 million men and women that have died defending our Constitution in the many wars over the years and the 1.5 million men and women who were injured in those wars,"
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The following is an update on my three [3] pending cases regarding my challenge to Obama's lack of qualifications/eligibility to be President.
As you know, I was the first to legally raise the issue - having filed my lawsuit on August 21, 2008, before the DNC Convention.
Status of Cases:
Berg vs. Obama, Third Circuit Court of Appeals No. 08 – 4340
Briefs have been filed by all parties. This is case that was dismissed in U.S. District Court, Eastern District of PA Judge Surrick dismissed for lack of "standing" by Philip J. Berg
This is case that I bypassed Third Circuit to U.S. Supreme Court - where U.S. Supreme Court denied several Injunctions and to hear case. However, case is still alive in the Third Circuit. Oral argument is tentatively scheduled for September/October 2009.
Berg vs. Obama, U.S. District Court, Case No. 08-cv-1933
Case originally filed under seal on 11/07/08. The Government moved for the dismissal of the case that was granted on June 10, 2009 at which time Judge Roberts ordered the case unsealed. Case will be appealed.
Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama,
U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, No. 09-5080 U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, No. 08-cv-02254 This is the case of retired Air Force Colonel Hollister who is on lifetime Presidential recall.
Hollister needs to know if recalled by Soetoro/Obama - must he obey an Order by legal President or disobey the illegal Order by a Constitutionally ineligible/unqualified "Usurper" President.
Case was dismissed and Sanction of “Reprimand” imposed on our local attorney. Appeal has been filed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. We are waiting for the briefing schedule so we can file our opening briefs.
For copies of all Press Releases and Court Pleadings, go to: obamacrimes.com
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This thread is for playing out Phil's cases in an actual court. We get to present Phils evidence against Obama in its entirety. And we get to break down his case and Obama's logical responses in court. OK?
Phil is asking for discovery.
What's next?
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Look, I've been playing around with you guys. You've been asking questions, but you haven't been asking the right questions.
I KNOW that birfer issues are all fake. I don't imagine it.
This entire birfer story was concocted by PUMAS in Texas in June 2008. After Hillary lost the Democratic nomination, they got together and decided that Obama had no chance of defeating McCain in November. But they wanted to make sure it happened. So they dug around, trying to come up with some dirt on him. Ex-girlfriends, sex, drugs, homosexuality, whatever. They ran the gamut.
One PUMA, Linda Sue Belcher (nee Linda Starr) came up with Obama's Indonesian school records, noticed that Obama's religion was listed as Muslim and that his last name was listed as Soetoro. From this she concocted the 'born in Kenya' story and the Indonesian citizen story.
How do I know this?
A lawyer friend of mine SAT IN ON THE PUMA MEETINGS. She is a PJ poster. (www.politijab.com) Her online name is Allison. Her real name is none of your business.
This whole birfer story was supposed to be the Republican October Surprise. It wasn't supposed to be offered publicly until two weeks before the election.
But Linda Starr took the germ of the story to that legal genius, Phil Berg, and he ran straight to court with a half-cocked story before the details could be filled in. That's where the Dudley Doright BC came in. That's why he claimed he already had the Sarah Obama tape which wasn't made until late October.
But the news didn't break properly in August. The Democratic National Convention overshadowed it, then the Republican National Convention, then the economic crisis, then the Sarah Palin debacle.
By the time the story was ready to pull out of the oven, it was toast. Berg had screwed up the legal filings in his lust for glory and the opportunity to be "first". The October Surprise failed.
These people have been playing you birfers for months. They know this issue is a lie. But what the heck? Money is money, right?
I can back up EVERY SINGLE THING I HAVE SAID HERE.
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Well, it looks as if birfer rhetoric has gone actual. Apparently, this happened earlier today, but I'm just hearing about it now.
Well, you were right wing fringe loonies before. Now you're DANGEROUS right wing fringe loonies. Just as you've painted Obama guilty by association with Ayers, you won't be able to shake this first birfer murder from the collective national perception.
Welcome to the front page, birfers.
This isn't funny.
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Birfers are fond of pointing out that Obama's grandmother said she was present when he was born. How rational is this idea?
B.O. Jr. was admittedly conceived in Hawaii in late 1960. His parents were married in January 1961. Birfers believe that B.O Sr. took his wife to Kenya in July 1961 to visit his family. What would that entail?
1.) First, it would entail a massive battery of immunization shots that NO competent American pediatrician would allow a late term teenager to endure. It would require passports and airline travel money that students might not be expected to have. But lets suppose they did. 2.) There were NO direct flights from ANYWHERE in America to Kenya in 1961. The flight from Hawaii would have several hops and layovers: Honolulu to San Francisco to Chicago to New York to London to Rome to Cairo. And then a local flight to Nairobi, Kenya. Total time? About SEVEN DAYS with layovers. Then another 200 miles north over land to Kogelo Village in west Kenya, where the Obama clan called home. Quite a trip for a pregnant teenager. 3.) Very pregnant Stanley Ann Dunham makes the trip, meets Obama's parents, and settles down into their un-air conditioned, no electricity hut, complete with open windows, mosquitoes the size of birds, tse-tst flies and Discovery channel wildlife along the perimeter. She's right at home, and glad she came. 4.) Soon she realizes she's got to get back to America to have her baby. So she gets back into the Obama's Range Rover (oh, sorry, she mounts their domestic water buffalo, the same one that brought her from Nairobi thru lion infested territory) and makes the two hundred mile trip back to Nairobi. But by then the airlines won't let a pregnant white woman fly. So, instead of having the child in Nairobi, she mounts the water buffalo again, still pregnant, and rides ANOTHER 150 miles south to Mombasa to have the child. It's Aug 4. 1961. Obama's grandmother is present. 5.) Eschewing any recovery time, Stanley Ann mounts the water buffalo two hours after giving birth, rides back to Nairobi with her bundle of joy in tow. She catches the first thing smoking. Local flight to Cairo, then TWA to Rome, then to London, then to NY, then to San Francisco, then to Honolulu, bleeding from her nether parts the whole way. According to birfers, the return trip took all of 2 days in 1961, and there weren't any standard layovers. 6.) She arrives in Honolulu and rushes straight to the newspapers to report her son's birth. The birth is duly noted in two Honolulu newspapers.
This is, essentially, an EXACT recreation of Phil Berg's born in Kenya story.
How credible is this?
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Oily has been a real gadfly. Phil hypes his three lawsuits, two of which have already been slapped down.
I submit that they are doing this for attention and money. Neither one of them wants to get in front of a real court room. Any resolution, pro or con, dries up the Paypal tap from you birfers. Phil had an opportunity to argue his Interpleader back in April and declined, then got mad when the judge dismissed his case as "frivolous".
Phil and Oily are suing each other.
What do you think this does for the case against Obama?
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Tomorrow night (Wed, June 10) we have our own show at 9 PM on BTR.
Call-in Number: (347) 324-5546
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Reality-Check-/2009/06/10/Land-of-the-Obots
If you REALLY want to get answers about Obama, the PJ'ers are your best bet. Rikker pales in comparison to the legal minds represented by this group.
Step up to the plate, birfers. Throw your ideas out there and see if they stick.
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The birfers have to be the thickest crowd around. I posted a thread asking if Phil Berg ought to show ALL his evidence. Then I delineated his evidence to date: A deliberately redacted granny tape, a Dudley Doright BC from Canada, ab accustaion of a forged BC by an anonymous Internet poster, and an Indonesian school record.
The birfers unanimously voted this thread up. They completely missed the sarcasm in the post. That's fairly thick.
Then, when I posted a thread demanding to see real evidence, they voted the whole thread down. Evidently, fake evidence holds more weight than real evidence to these birfers.
They don't really want to know the truth. They just want to get rid of the president by any means necessary.
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