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obelus 9 months ago

LOL ...Twitchy is an obsessed fanatic. I haven't been here for a week and decided to look in today, and there's twitchy still obsessing that no one will accept Obama'a fake birth certificate! LOL

Anyway, we must mobilize to clean out all of Washington, get rid of (vote out) all of the presently seated Congress and Senate, and put a patriotic Natural Born American in the white house. Only then can we begin the long march to recovery from this Obama economic trainwreck. Until we do that, we are only marching ever closer to Soviet style communism, complete with cronyism and appointed (not elected) influence. Under the Obama dictatorship, we can expect an ever-growing lower class, and a narrowing scope of ruling elite.

Obama is not an American in my view. He is a foreign-born imposter, and having taken the oath of office, is a traitor to that to which he has sworn allegiance. Of course twitchy is choking on his malt-o-meal right about now. LOL

obelus 9 months ago

The mainstream media ran cover for Obama effectivly putting him in office with the public knowing very little of him, and most of what they did know was a staged presentation. The Star Bulletin is simply continuing the charade. The Star article is the equivelent of 60's era commercials claiming "More Doctors Smoke Camels Than Any Other Cigarette." A true, though trick, statement that led many to believe Camels were healthy.

Obama was born in late 1961, decades before HI went paperless. With Obama's acquiring passports, college entance, his mother applying for welfare, and a range of other activities, he would have acquired one or more certified hardcopies of the BE long before HI went paperless. Regardless of that, the digital facscimile posted on the smear website by was a forgery. Why? Why post a forgery if you have an autnentic birth certificate?

Because the authentic birth certificate bears information you want to hide presumably.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5gm8XKv_w

Neither Camels nor Obama are good for our health. The unanswered question remains, "where is the birth certificate?"

obelus 9 months ago

Part-1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCSoOg9nnX0

Part-2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnUH7VpqE3U

As repeated innumerable times daily across the Republic... where is the birth certificate Mr. Obama?

"Under the law, failure to respond is an admission of guilt."

obelus 9 months ago

Quite a rant there twitchy. Didn't they tell you? Trolls aren't supposed become emotionaly invested in their work. It causes you to sound frustrated and desperate. LOL

Have a nice evening Jr. You can rant all night if you want to.. There's no school tomorrow right? :)

But, I afraid when you wake up, there will still be that question that just won't go away... "Where is the birth certificate Mr. Obama? Why are you compelled to hide it from public scrutiny?"

More info for you. I think you're featured in this one. The one with the scarf right? LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8

obelus 9 months ago

I have the top one third of a $100.00 bill scanned and photo shopped on my website. I think I'll take my laptop to the grocery store this evening and show it when the cashier asks for money… Oh, but that's a ridicules statement isn't it? Yes it is.

...Maybe in important matters, originals do carry just a tad more weight than facsimiles of original... but then, that's just me, and, I'm just so dense... seriously.

obelus 9 months ago

Please stop trolling. You clearly have no knowledge of legal matters. You also apparently suffer a deficit of logical thinking. …In any event, you also are not the czar of "Case Closed". :)

A large body of American citizens disagrees with you. You are incapable of wishing the issue away as it is now reverberating around the world: "Where is the birth certificate?"

Some interesting reading here: http://americangrandjury.org

By the way, my sincere thanks to Obama, and all of his supporters here who, in their objection to the question, have made the "Where is the birth certificate" campaign a smashing success. God Bless America!

obelus 9 months ago

Article two grandfathers in anyone who was a citizen (natural or otherwise) at the founding of the Country. After that date, anyone qualifying as POTUS must be a "natural born Citizen" of the United States. The definition of of a natural born citizen has been argued at length and is now well defined as someone born in one of the fifty states, or born under one of a few narrowly defined exceptions, such as children born to U.S. military parents serving outside the U.S., as in the case of John McCain, who had no problem showing his birth certificate.

Why do liberals always have to revert back to, "But Tommy did it too" mentality? Bush was no fiscal conservative, and should take the full brunt of his own mistakes, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is in office now, he is un-vetted, and he is running the largest crime syndicate in the history of the world without restraint, running rough shod over the Constitution in the process.

I am glad Bush is gone, but I want Obama out of the white house before we end up over the edge, and into the abyss of no return. I want my America back, and that reaches somewhere beyond the new world order speech of Bush 41. We have had few friends in Washington for the past several decades, but no past president is driving the bus now, so if we are going to avoid riding into the economic abyss, lets get rid of the Marxist now at the wheel, and then work on the wrecking crew we call Congress who are cheering him on.

Barack Obama is the least "transparent" president in the history of the country. Where is the birth certificate Mr. Obama? The world is waiting.

obelus 9 months ago

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS CONSTITUTION, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." (Emphasis mine)

In other words, it was a clause grandfathering in anyone who was a citizen (natural or otherwise) at the founding of the Country. After that date, anyone qualifying as POTUS must be a "natural born Citizen" of the United States. The definition of of a natural born citizen has been argued at length and is now well defined as someone born in one of the fifty states, or born under one of a few narrowly defined exceptions, such as children born to U.S. military parents serving outside the U.S., as in the case of John McCain, who had no problem showing his birth certificate.

Primary level reading of the Constitution does not erase the fact that Obama continues at great embarrasment and expense to himself to hide evidence of his birth. We have had few friends in Washington for the past several decades, but none of those men are driving the bus now, so if we are going to avoid riding into the economic abyss, lets get rid of the Marxist driving the bus now, and then work on the wrecking crew we call Congress who are cheering him on.

Why do liberals always have to revert back to , "But Tommy did it too" mentality. Bush was no fiscal conservative, and should take the full brunt of his own mistakes, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Obama is in office now, he is un-vetted, and he is running the largest crime syndicate in the history of the world without restraint.

I am glad Bush is gone, but I want Obama out of the white house before we end up over the edge, and into the abyss of no return. I want my America back, and that reaches somewhere beyond the new world order speech of Bush 41.

Barack Obama is the least "transparent" president in the history of the country. Where is the birth certificate Mr. Obama? The world is waiting.

obelus 9 months ago

The important thing is that the debate is not a closed issue in the minds of many Americans, and WND has kept the issue in the forefront, as revealed by this website.

You can't have it both ways. Either WND "lies", and therefor they, and their experts are not reliable, or they do not lie and are trustworthy in their campaign calling for public disclosure of the birth certificate. Either way, I have not attested to the veracity of WND or their claims, only that the tempest surrounding their activity has prevented Obama from sweeping his secret past under the rug.

The only fact that is clear, is that unless Obama is hiding something, there is no reason to continue hiding behind an obscure Hawian law. Obama is occupying the office of the president of the United States of America, and should, if he were and honest man, simply put his birth certificate on display.

At best, I would not consider WND or their "experts" to be authoritive or independent. I am a little amused that you continue this deabte with yourself about WND. Apparently you are trying to convince yourself they are not a reliable source since you are the only one implying that such a notion needs to be refuted.

All that is needed for the question to deserve asking is for any citizen to feel there has been deception. That would be me. Judging by this website, I am far from alone. Now in your mind, I'm sure your opinion bears more weight than mine, but it does not. Sorry Charlie. Let a little air out and give yourself a break.

The mere fact that Obama is inexplicably spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to block examination of the birth certificate raises enough doubt that he should just hand it over. All would be settled. Unless of course it is a forged document. Which you still can't answer, and which still presents an odity that you continue trying so hard to do so.

Now, WND, factcheck.org, USA Today, etc. LOL ...You might want to get some counseling on the veracity of things you pick up on the internet. It is a great forum for exchange of ideas, and conduit to information, but is a poor substitute for paper, fiber, and ink, when it comes to authentication. No thank you to the digital Internet copies you cite as proof, or alternatly place so much energy into disproving. LOL ...Go to bed Jr. High School starts early. :)

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

obelus 9 months ago

Liberals who fell all over themselves are now getting a taste of early, though open support by Obama for Sharia law. All those gays and women liberers who will be on the tip of the Sharia sword got a sharp slap in the face from their messiah:

"...Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit - for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear. We cannot disguise hostility towards any religion behind the pretence of liberalism..." ~BHO (verbatim)

Muslim born and raised, and not straying far from the Islamic tree.

obelus 9 months ago

The only way to correct the error, or crime, which really is what it is, would be to remove Obama from office. It would be a shame to have Biden as president, but he couldn't possibly dammage the country more than Obama already has, and we must observe the rule of law. Particularly when it is a root Constitutional issue. There is no higher law, nor a higher crime than conspiring to obfuscate the Constituion in direct contravention of the oath of office. If Obama cannot produce a verifyable birth certificate at this point, he is guilty of high treason.

obelus 9 months ago

You are still having a conversation with yourself, since all that I have claimed about WND is they have done a fine job of keeping a very legitimate issue in public view... and they have.

I trust the bureaucrats in Hawaii as much as I do Obama. Which is, not at all. The only conspiracy is the one on the part Obama who would rather fight as if his life depended on it, to prevent any forensic experts from having a look at his birth certificate.

I've stated my opinion and you have yours, which is fine with me. I would say however, that the one exhibiting troll behavior is the one who wants to quash the debate. That would be you.

The only unanswered questions remain as always… Where is the birth certificate? What plausible reason could Obama have for keeping it under wraps? Is it a forgery? Obama is looking a lot like a guilty man refusing a lie detector test.

As to any waste of your time, that would be a voluntary act on your part. I asked a question, and I have every right to do that. You can't accept that fact and waste your own time in your effort to silence the question.

As for me, it is not a waste of time because every reply from another person of whom the question has not been asked, and whom could not answer the question if they were asked, only demands a response, which keeps the question alive. That of course, is exactly what we seek, until we get a little "Transparency" as proposed by Obama himself.

I'm sorry you have become so emotionally invested in shutting off the debate, but unless your name is Obama, I doubt you can produce the birth certificate, nor can you say why Obama himself does not.

obelus 9 months ago

This supposedly was Obama's idea. Why make a new folder to couch the hottest topic on the board? Why not answer "the" single question and put 90% of the board's concerns to bed? Just answer the damn question Obama. Where's the birth certificate? ...Because the OCS answers to no one.

obelus 9 months ago

Obama has proven himself a bald faced liar. "No more secrecy" ??? Why was the spendiong boondoggle ramed through without the opportunity to even read it? Why are you cowering from revealing your birth certificate. Why do you favor Muslims over Christians, and over America in general? You are NOT my president Obama. You are a lying corrupt bastard, and nothing more.

obelus 9 months ago

Now you presume, and in doing so, make an ass of yourself, as the old saw goes. WND is not the end all of truth to me, but they are certainly doing a fine job of keeping the legetimate issue of Obama's birth certificate in public view. In the mean time, you reference USA Today (LOL), who merely sites the Supreme Court's refusal to hear the case, not whether the digital copy of the certificate offered by the OCS is valid or not.

While you, this blog and Obama himself seek to obfuscate the issue, America still asks, "Where is the birth certificate, and what are you working so hard to hide? Is it that you were born in Kenya, as seems very likely? Or is your father someone other than Obama Sr.? Is it some darker secrete we have not yet imagined... well, which is it Mr. Obama. The world is waiting."

obelus 9 months ago

And the question remains: Where's the birth certificate Obama?

obelus 9 months ago

"You are intellectually dishonest. Obama has not produced COLB to any controlling legal authority or independent document examiner to determine its validity. All his has shown to anyone outside his campaign and his Annenberg Foundation (which Obama chaired) controlled FactCheck website is a digital image of an alleged document. Do you really believe that a digital image is all that is necessary to prove one's constitutional eligibility for any federal office in the land? Have you ever heard of PhotoShop and what can be done with a digital image and computer generated forms using digital laser printers? We the People want to see and have experts examine the underlying printed paper document used to make that image AND we also want to see the yet unseen long-form, original birth certificate still in the vaults in HI to see the name of the attending doctor and hospital where he was born and other contemporaneous non-family witnesses to the birth, if there are any!"

Will Obama continue to hide his past?

obelus 9 months ago

Sorry... link did not work:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98787

obelus 9 months ago

Korea and Iran have their nut leaders, and we have ours.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98787

obelus 9 months ago

"...Your whole group currupting this site with this type of attack is pathetic..." And what group is that sir? Concerned taxpaying Americans? I understand you would like for us to shut up and give the king his ransom, but we were supposed to be a nation never to have a king. This issue is not going away.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98787

obelus 9 months ago

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98787

obelus 9 months ago

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=98787

obelus 9 months ago

Typical Obama style racism. Jeremiah Wright would be proud of you sir.

obelus 9 months ago

If Obama would produce a valid birth certificate, the issue and all these people you are dissapointed in would go away. Jesus did not, and would not have involved himself in politics, and Obama has not denied that he has a birth certificiate nor claimed to be from Pennsylvania. Obama in my opinion is neither a wonderful person, nor is he qualified for the office he has stolen with the aid of the MSM and useful idiots who only wanted "change" without regard to what said unspecified change might entail. All we can do now, is hold on as Obama takes us through the crags of socialism, while America asks bewildered, "Where is the birth certificate Mr. Obama? What are you hiding Mr. Obama?"

Thank you for your comment though. I think that we can discuss our ideas, and that we reveal what is really on the minds of the American public, is precisly what the stated purpose of this forum. It is hardly destroyed, but rather has found its true purpose in spite of appearances that it was probably intended as a propoganda organ for Obama. The truth is a persitent thing, and often hurts those who scurry to hide it.

obelus 9 months ago

Who died and left you in charge of the forum? Americans simply want to know if the man in office is legally qualified to be there. Is it a Constitutional Republic, or not? Uder Obama, we emerge, it turns out, as a defacto Socialist Dictatorship... One party rule, with a Marxist at the head of State, and criminal organizations such as ACORN harvesting and manufacturing the votes needed to retain power. And by the way, people who live in glass houses, should themselves not be throwing "whine". LOL

obelus 9 months ago

Who said it is federal gopvernmenmt data, and what does that have to do with the question? I would like to know if the man is an American cisitzen, or was he born in Kenya. Running from the issue seems to indicate he has something to hide. I am an American citizen who wants to know it the man in office is legally qualified to be there. Tell me how asking a very rlevent question is abusing the forum. Rather the forum seems to abusing the spirt of its purported purpose. Or are saying that Open Government is limited to the scope of documents, and not matters of law pertaining to our self-govenance? Is it a Republic, or not? I believe that under Obama, it is more of a Socialist Dictatorship. One party rule, with a Marxist at the head of State.

obelus 9 months ago

If it were revealed that Obama's mother was a tramp, the "Impressive Obama Story" would lose it's luster.

obelus 9 months ago

So where is the birth certificate? Could it be that it would reveal Obama is the illegitimate child of another black man, not Obama Sr? Is this another Clinton style dodge? He hoesn't have to be honest with the American people becasue it is about sex? Clinton's mother was a bar fly... what was Obama's mother? If Obama wants to stop all the questions and clear his mother's name, all he has to do is release the birth certificate. I guess it all depends on "what is is."

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