no hiding things under the guise of national security. There is absolutely no reason the vids of the pentagon should be hidden from view unless there was criminal activity on the part of the government if there was in fact such activity We should know and all parties should be held accountable.
We know information is not being shown and you have a responsibility to pt it on the table. there is NO national security issue. to claim there is is a LIE. the only reason to not disclose is due to criminal activity on the part of the government!
"Have a service opportunity of your own? Register it here and invite others to join."
i was unaware but the site lets people set up a group and it invites people to join the cause! LOL lets all start groups to force obama to produce his certs or resign!
get it?? do we have any say or will this DICKtator just wave his magic wand and make it so.
it amazes me how the government just goes along watch how this scumbag tried to force a huge pork bill through without anyone reading it and watch them do it.
time for the people to stop paying taxes. i am not paying for this BS.
it seems when the left was protesting and raising hell it was all good but now protest is terrorism? so i am clear if i disagree with the administration i am a terrorist?
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U.S. military teaches 'protesters' are 'low-level terrorists' Become 'dangerous citizen' by 'repeating the very phrases Founding Fathers used'
Just weeks after a scandal erupted over a Department of Homeland Security report that described as "right-wing extremists" those who oppose abortion and support secure national borders, another report is revealing that the Department of Defense is teaching that protesters are "low-level terrorists."
The newest action to define those who disagree with positions adopted by the government or administration of the United States was revealed by blogger Dennis Loo at Salon.com.
He cited a complaint filed by the northern California branch of the American Civil Liberties Union demanding that the Department of Defense change its instructions and those who have been given the training be told of the modifications by "sending out corrective materials."
According to the ACLU letter, the DoD's "Annual Level 1 Antiterrorism (AT) Awareness Training for 2009" tells department personnel "that certain First Amendment-protected activity may amount to 'low-level terrorism.'"
Specifically the training "Knowledge Check 1" asks, "Which of the following is an example of low-level terrorism activity?"
The multiple choices are: Attacking the Pentagon, IEDs, Hate crimes against racial groups and Protests.
The correct answer in the training course is "Protests."
According to Loo, the use of the term apparently is routine.
"I have just learned of a scholarly conference paper presented earlier this year that underscores the fact that the DoD training's use of 'low-level terrorism' is hardly an anomaly. 'Low level terrorism' is a term regularly being used by state security agencies," he wrote.
He cited a document at the February convention in New York titled "Labeling 'Low Level Terrorism': The Out-Definition of Social Movements."
Wrote a participant in the Salon forum page, "One of the best ways to get yourself a reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating the very phrases which our Founding Fathers used in their struggle for independence."
Said another, "Yep, when regular legally protected political protest is becoming classified by the powers-that-be, we know we have turned another corner into darkness. Perhaps this is the era the Great UN-enlightenment."
Blogger Jim Bovard added, "I still believe that we have not yet seen the tip of the iceberg of federal efforts to classify political protests or opposition to the government as terrorism."
Blogger Josh Richman at at the Costra Costa Times said, "I guess I'm surprised not only that the government hasn't yet learned its lesson about equating the exercise of our cherished constitutional rights with terrorism, but also that it's so incredibly obvious in doing so."
"Teaching employees that dissent on issues of public concern is something to be feared, rather than encouraged, is a dangerously counterproductive use of scarce security resources, making us less safe as a democracy," the ACLU letter to the Pentagon said.
"DOD employees cannot accomplish their mission of protecting our nation and its values unless they understand that those values encompass the right to criticize our government through protest activities. It is imperative that they are taught the difference between political, religious or social activism and terrorism."
"Peaceful protest is not terrorist activity, it is protected by the First Amendment and is one of the cornerstones of our democratic society," the ACLU said. "The fact that the views espoused may be unpopular or may be critical of the government is hardly a reason to treat engaging in dissent as a suspect activity."
The earlier DHS report was "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment." WND has posted the report online for readers to see.
It also has prompted, as WND has reported, a lawsuit by Thomas More Law Center.
Law Center President Richard Thompson said the promise by DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano to "reword" it truly is "scary because we know they are still going to maintain some kind of targeting for various people that she's never apologized to or never retracted [her accusations]."
The report linked returning veterans with the possibility of terrorism and when it was released and created such a furor for Napolitano she has given several explanations for it, including that she would have reworded the report and that it was issued by a rogue employee.
She later apologized to veterans for having linked them to terror.
But Thompson noted that the report also targeted as "potential terrorists" Americans who:
* Oppose abortion
* Oppose same-sex marriage
* Oppose restrictions on firearms
* Oppose lax immigration laws
* Oppose the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs
* Oppose continuation of free trade agreements
* Are suspect of foreign regimes
* Fear Communist regimes
* Oppose a "one world" government
* Bemoan the decline of U.S. stature in the world
* Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more
And Thompson told WND no apology has been offered to the members of any of those classes of citizens.
Thompson said as part of his preparation for the lawsuit, his organization has uncovered "additional information" that "creates even more concern that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is unconstitutionally targeting Americans merely because of their conservative beliefs."
Thompson said that information will be released in due course.
"This report was the tip of the iceberg," Thompson said at the time. "Conservative Americans should be very outraged."
The Thomas More Law Center filed its lawsuit against Napolitano and the DHS on behalf of nationally syndicated conservative radio talk show host Michael Savage, Gregg Cunningham of the pro-life organization Center for Bio-Ethical Reform Inc. and Iraqi War Marine veteran Kevin Murray.
It alleges the federal agency violated the First and Fifth Amendment constitutional rights of these three plaintiffs by targeting them for disfavored treatment and chilling their free speech, expressive association, and equal protection rights. The lawsuit further claims that DHS encourages law enforcement officers throughout the nation to target and report citizens to federal officials as suspicious rightwing extremists and potential terrorists because of their political beliefs.
too bad most Americans will no longer Buy from Socialist motors..
to be quite honest I want to see Chrysler and GM go belly up in a BIG way. the second ford lets the commie DICKtator in i will stop supporting them as well.
what this government shill corporation did is screw over its dealerships based on party affiliations. i will not longer Support any company that i feeel is part of the left in any way.
Mr Obama the 4 foot communist is making threats to harm the United States and it's people How far will you allow this to go before you surrender to his will and give tax payer money to your comrade?
obviously this guy is a complete moron so ill try and clarify the site name leads the user to the conclusion that you actually address the issues with the Voters. if i was a union guy you would be on your knees with open mouth. bit i am not and don't fit your communist agenda?
if i were to mail you or another member of your administration a dead fish. would you construe that as a threat? I figure that scene you did it to someone it was all fair game.
if i tell you I wont be joining your brown shirts nor will any member of my family will that hurt your feelings?
Who is going to protect us from the Government????
i am far less worried about private companies then i am worried about your intentions.
I have the option to tell a company to get bent i have no such luxury when it come to government corruption. government in general are screwing us over at every turn and we have NO recourse.
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Do you think your chronic bed wedding has a negative effect on your job performance? also does your Family know you have a fetish for Transsexual hookers and kiddie porn??
oh and one last question...
if you were planning on Sending me a fish what type of fish would you send?
I find it increasingly difficult to take the Administration seriously When the so called President is a total and complete Liar.
he claims he wants Transparency then he refuses to provide the most fundamental information to the people.
now it seems we are not allowed to see visitor records to the white house??? Why would that be?? could it be the fact that Bill Ayers is a regular visitor?? or worse??
start suing Hawaii! make freedom of information requests for his real cert as issues by the state of Hawaii. if they fail to produce it he must be relieved of his command.
How will you Mr Obama being the new Dictator handle the War? will you use US Troops to to fight the people? or will you take out any republican you can ID? or will you Bring in UN Troops and let them handle your dirty work! Also will you Start the FEMA Detention camps before it actually happens or wait till all hell breaks lose?
I personally I am really hoping you bring in UN troops Nothing like a foreign invading Army to raise the body bag count!
To be quite honest i am kind of looking forward to Getting that Necklace of human ears i have always wanted!
now that i understand the courts position . let me give you mine. strip search my kid and ill put you directly into a coma. first ill walk in and punch you in the face while you are stumbling back ill likely strike you directly in the throat and once you hit the floor ill proceed to punt your head into the next county. i will of course continue doing this until you make the tell tale snoring sound of a person who cant seem to wake up. then you can go ahead and have me arrested. at that point i wont give a damn. and ill gladly explain to a jury how i flew into a rage after you caused my child emotional harm.
the short answer is NO teddy the tumor kennedy added provision that clearly states congress senate and Unions in favor with the left are Exempt. the reality is the will never give up there kush plans. they will however force sub standard care down our throats.
please keep in mind under the new plan teddy would not be economically viable and he would simply have his tumor kill him. this is a Fact and these bastards know it.
I had you pegged the first time you opened your mouth jordan i know your type you are beyond predictable
lets see if i have ya pegged
you are an egghead. likely love to program computers. you were likely the dweeb who i had to get a projector from in school of course i had to listen to your endless techno rant before getting said projector. you likely have a college education Soft science of course sociology lit or perhaps Philosophy you have trouble breaking away from dependence on education so you gravitate to it you have dreams of greatness but are trapped in a 9 to 5 world toiling and ever looking for the breakthrough that will make you a worthwhile human being. you find yourself intellectually superior but most people do not share your view of self greatness and likely consider you tedious and hard to listen to in long stretches. you likely can tell me all about black holes and can tell me what a Quark is without even thinking about it. if i ask you what "sin" is you do not think of the biblical term you think of something totally diffrent you are a control freak. you likely consider yourself a music lover and may even try and make some yourself all tho you likely not what most would consider ready to go on tour.
slavery presented a completely different issue blacks were kidnapped and forced to come here and be slaves. illegal's come here to exploit our resources. they Deserve NOTHING. and i wont be paying for them.
in the uk where they have socialist medicine like obama wants to bring here you cant get heart surgery if you are in your 50's i guess you are not economically viable.
Perhaps you should rephrase your post to say "This website should give me the ability to modify at will any post i see fit so i can Exercise control and steer the posts in my own image after all i am me control freak and the internet should Cater to my selfish views"
Flagged: not due to it being a dupe but due to you being a complete overbearing Freak.
i keep mine is an old inefficient refrigerator that sucks power like crazy. because i don't buy global warming! i also own a pair of 1000 pound Smokers that i burn 100 pounds of wood and Carbon rich charcoal in so i can spew glorious smoke into the air while i Barbecue large sides of Beef from corn Fed Farting cows!
as you can likely tell i think Al gore is a douch as well!
i think it is painfully clear that if the guy in charge is anything but republican the left is silent. Obama could Carpet bomb children if he wanted to and the left would ignore it.
this is the problem! fact of the matter is Obama had run up more Debt then has ever run up and the result is NOTHING GOOD!
obama spent more money in his first months in office then America has spent in its entire history combined!!! but nobody on the left so much as flinches. and to top it of they still blame bush!!!!
what i find offensive is while Acorn is being investigated for widespread Voter fraud Obama is giving them tons of our Tax money and putting them in control of the Census.
clifton.hancock. I and others Demand Redress of Grievance where is my ability to do so.. the problem is that we have no voice. we have no say and the government simply takes at will of the people while committing treasonous acts in flagrant violation of the constitution. what is even worse is that not only do they violate the constitution but they quietly behind closed doors enact legislation protecting them selfs from retribution. and justice. suddenly it is not legal for us to say anything? sorry Clifton, but if these Traitors are fair game!!
i am curious what happens if say i hit my cap and then i invent something and it sells a ton? what happens then? who gets the money? the government? LOL
you don't know the first thing about the constitution if you had a clue then you would not have posted this b.s. post. the government is forbidden from turning the military on the people. if they ever did the people would have them outnumbered 10,000 to 1 i don't care what firepower you have the odd are you will lose.
the reality is that of all the countries on the planet america is the one that you can not bring your army to and start some crap. you would lose.
what we are having a problem with is the traitors in the government assisting the illegal invasion. at some point this will come to a head and when it does the ones responsible will be dragged out in chains and tried for treason.
just to make ya look stupid ill ask you a beter question and you go ahead and get back to me. if bush is as bad as you say he is. then why has your 100% left controlled government not lifted a finger to prosecute him??? ill even go one further if you have evidence he and his administration broke the law String his ass up! Please by my guest. you know why it wont happen? because the dems and republicans are both criminals and despite the bullsh1t they are working together to undermine our freedoms
The left wont touch bush cuz they are all friends in there efforts to take control of us./ and obama is just another part of the plan
obviously it matters not what the American people say. the media is in on it and they paint it however they are told.
she should hand over her customer list to Toyota! tht is what i would do better yet give the list to FORD! Every dealership who gets screwed should and ford should offer incentives!
unlike morons like blackmonrikker is Sarah has violated the law she would be hung out to dry. that is the difference between the left and right. the left protects homosexual pimps like Frank and other law breakers like the kenyan usurper the right on the other hand would never allow a foreigner to undermine the office like you have.
first of all he is Required to provide it. secondly there is no difference between parties any more they are all in it to take as much as they can before it crumbles. the powers that be know it is falling apart they are trying to keep us down until they can do away with the constitution.
the percentage of guns in Mexico being used by Cartels is small from the usa. the media LIES!! now if you want Brutal honesty??? ill be happy to provide it to you. I do not give a Damn about mexicans killing each other in mexico. matter of fact i hope it spills into the usa big time so we can force the government to close the border.(there only Real job that they fail at) it is painfully obvious that the US government is willing to have many Americans die for this corrupt deal they have going with Mexico and it is also quite obvious the government is involved with the drug trade or why allow it to continue to spill into the USA? seeing as you know so much please let me know where along the border i can toss my firearms over the fence and ill be more then happy to donate a few to the Drug War because dope dealers killing each other is always good! not to mention the loss of tourist dollars to Mexico. All positive things if you ask me.
the left helped elect this guy they would rather sink us into full on Communism then admit failure.
Anyone who Resists the annexing of the Usa will be branded a traitor and rounded up into Nazi style camps and either held until the transfer is complete and the UN forces are fully entrenched and in control of all Weapons. then we will be allowed to move freely so to speak as long as we work to feed the government beast. the world government will dictate terms and the constitution will be History.
rejean, if obama has his way the us dollar will be worthless anyway. he needs to break our backs so he can institute martial law and bring in the UN To disarm us.
will late term abortion do? Seriously if your too stupid to know you do not want the kid by 6 months you are a dumb ass. Check!
* Oppose same-sex marriage live together all you want but stop hijacking the word Haa Haa i said "Jacking" LOL.
Check!
* Oppose restrictions on firearms
Check! not only do i oppose them i encourage flagrant violation of any law that violates the second amendment!
* Oppose lax immigration laws
Lax immigration laws = assisting the invasion of the country = Treason.
Check!
* Oppose the policies of President Obama regarding immigration, citizenship, and the expansion of social programs
Obama has no policies except Treason. I love how resisting out and out Treason makes Americans Terrorists.
How Dare we oppose him. he is obama the great. would calling him a dumb ass be considered opposing him?
tripple check!!
* Oppose continuation of free trade agreements
Free Trade Agreements hurt americans so um ya i oppose.
Check!
* Are suspect of foreign regimes
like Iran?
Check!
* Fear Communist regimes
like North Korea? like Obamas? CHECK!
* Oppose a "one world" government
how do i put this gentely stick one world government up your ass!
CHECK!!!
* Bemoan the decline of U.S. stature in the world
Check!
* Are upset with loss of U.S. manufacturing jobs to China and India, and more
Check!
And the top reason you may be a Terrorist?
considering Janet Napolitano a Raging Wart on the Sphincter of humanity!
Check Mate!!
it is painfully obvious that Janet Napolitano is a traitor and a turn coat.
I have bad news for Janet "The Skank" Napolitano
you have just Described 99% of Americans. So Bring it on!!!!!! what i find Even more amusing is this...
Janet "The Skank" Napolitano issues this report to the same military she just got finished implicating as terrorists. she said us military coming home from Defending this country are potential Terrorists.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
If it violates the Second Amendment disregard it! As it has no legal Standing!
States that assist federal Efforts to disarm the population like California should be ignored entirely. I personally consider California legislators as lame duck Traitors. and None of them can be trusted they do not serve the people in the least.
I think i defer to the founding fathers who saw the Dangers in just the type of government we currently have in America today.
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“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson
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"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” – George Washington ----------------------------------------- "None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." --Thomas Jefferson, 1803 ------------------------------------ “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference.” -- George Washington ----------------------------------------- “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Cesare Beccaria ------------------------------- "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive." - Noah Webster ------------------------------------ "One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms." - Constitutional scholar and Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story ------------------------- "Shortly before World War I, the German Kaiser was the guest of the Swiss government to observe military maneuvers. The Kaiser asked a Swiss militiaman: "You are 500,000 and you shoot well, but if we attack with 1,000,000 men what will you do?" The soldier replied: "We will shoot twice and go home." ---------------------------
this is to the fake mod using the name "Moderator,
you are clearly just a jackass who thinks he is a mod on this board. stop trying to troll that you actually have any power here. your a pathetic douche.
not only did they set my post for moderation they removed important parts of it so i will post it here!
Democrats plan to pass financial overhaul quickly
sad to tell you all but the Democrats are a party to this Treason. by helping this Traitor ramrod through policy's that undermine us totally. ==================== the following was removed from the Get go by the mods! ================================================ "We have to evaluate it, weigh it, slow it down and make sure we do it right," said Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee. "Because if we don't, we will pay dearly."
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was expected to outline the administration's plan on Thursday before the Senate panel and the House Financial Services Committee. ===============================================
we should not be giving more power to the FED this is a BIG Mistake. we are allowing Banking to control us 100%. we will lose!
this is not a birth Cert .. this is a cert of live birth. it basically says you were born. but it is not acceptable as proof of citizenships even in Hawaii..
I consider Michell along the same lines as Sarah Jessica Parker someone in the media proclaimed her hot and then perpetuated the rumor until people started agreeing. the problem is Sarah Jessica Parker is not pretty she is not attractive at all and nether is Obamas wife.
Jimmy Carter started this mess in the first place . his dealings with Nk is why Nk is making threats now. we should kick jimmy square in his old peanut farming ass.
as for the new chief and bottle washer. i have little doubt he will be on his knees servicing the Red menace any time now. he will never cross a good commie and everyone knows it now.
the UN is a joke they can not be trusted to inspect anything. the best thing to do is simply cut off NK and let them starve but i am guessing Obama will gave in to his comrades demands they are both communists after all.
rejean, whats wrong you have some fetish for communists? I am pretty sure if you pledge allegiance to obama's socialist nation he will make you his personal seed dumpster.
by the way Obama i am the Typical white person and i don't fear you one bit. i have never crossed the street out of fear of black people. your just a dumb ass Racist bitter hater.
this is because Obama is fa functional Retard. what do you expect? he is Talking head. did you people really Expect this moron to know how to fix anything?? he is left wing commie who only know how to apply socialist spins per his masters wishes.
i have a question for you if a candidate is required to provide his birth cert. and Obama has not what is your problem? he has failed to provide it. the document provided is not valid HI even said it is not. why would you spend so much energy trying to prevent disclosure??? anything short of showing us on demand is hiding the fact.
i think the chances of any American buying a us made car controlled by the us government and unions would be for it to be affordable and not crap. US government/union control pretty much negates that possibility .
couple that with the fact no more Hemi or corvette and i am all but done with them.
there is no wat either of these companies can build anything worth a crap now.
the government will never let this happen. they have to much pressure from industry not to allow it.
the only way it will happen is if we simply DEFY the government in mass! if we do expect Backlash! it would start with acquiring viable industrial hemp seeds. then finding a place to plant them preferably a farm. or 20 California would be the best place to start.
anyone who knows how the government operates knows they cant do anything right. the government is the worst. the answer is NO i would never buy a car from either of those 2 companies again.
look at what they pulled with Amtrak they power grabbed it and never lt it go now it is a tax burden by the time the government is finished nobody will want anything to do with it. what pisses me off the most is I pay to keep them alive and if GM makes money i see none of it. so they can die for all i care. the sooner the better. i have no stake in eith of them. my tax money is already gone thanks to the commie scumbag.
Jen, to imply that Palin is anything short of sexy is proof of you inability to be remotely honest.
line her up against obamas lady hillary or pelosi and she clearly blows them out of the water unlike you however i did not think she was the wise choice. other then the fact that she was a pretty lady she did nothing for me.
you spewing venom about her looks is proof Your your jealousy.
if she was a lefty you would be licking her boots and proclaiming her a Sex pot.
What i find most funny is the audio tape clearly proves he is not American but you ignore it. you don't want to admit it if you do it means your man is out. and you would rather trample the constitution them lose. you have no loyalty and no national pride!
i am pretty sure you posted because of the word stimulus are you flirting with me jen? i notice you have not come up with a single idea. just post after post about how your kenya import won.
i want you to stop flirting with me jen you are insatiable. i havent even seen you and i want to use you as my personal plaything.
your making me so hot jen the way you say patriotic make me want to paint you up in red white and blue whip cream and lick you all over. i want to give you my patriotic Popsicle.
-31 what else is there to say? the only reason to gut e-verify is to allow illegals into the realm of government contracts. obviously you are a stupid pinko clown or you would see the danger in allowing some border jumping freak access to projects that concern national security.
Twitchy you know nothing as evident by your stupit sheepish post you pathetic monkey. i am sure i am far more well versed then a dumb ass like you will ever be. you need to stfu now.
i was thinking we could have some angry sex i throw up the fact that you are supporting a pinko who is screwing up america and you in your frustration at backing a commie submit yourself to me to be used as my personal plaything.
what do ya say? if you are game ill even waterboard ya... wink wink
i would like to make a couple of points here azaleahs, are you completely brain dead? when Obama claims to have been born their was no such thing as electronic docs. it was all paper. the paper exists if it was ever issued and it needs to be produced.
now as for kjheinz,
what do you take us for idiots? how dumb are you to challenge us on the ability to obtain the documents?
any official who claims they do not provide them is a LIAR! they have to provide them! how the hell can you provide needed information without it. you dolt. do me a favor and stop being a dumb ass. the guy spends MILLIONS hiding his information he has things to hide. here is the Direct form! http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf what i love about this form is that it asks you to basically Verify what is on the cert! mothers name fathers name! place of birth
here is the info that disputes your contention. http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html the worst part about this is that if and when it gets out people like you will say oh it is ok for him to remain lets just ignore the constitution. we already know your game. most liberals already know he is not American and they simply do not care he is going to give them what they want or so they think....
i would like to make a couple of points here azaleahs, are you completely brain dead? when Obama claims to have been born their was no such thing as electronic docs. it was all paper. the paper exists if it was ever issued and it needs to be produced.
now as for kjheinz,
what do you take us for idiots? how dumb are you to challenge us on the ability to obtain the documents?
any official who claims they do not provide them is a LIAR! they have to provide them! how the hell can you provide needed information without it. you dolt. do me a favor and stop being a dumb ass. the guy spends MILLIONS hiding his information he has things to hide.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html the worst part about this is that if and when it gets out people like you will say oh it is ok for him to remain lets just ignore the constitution. we already know your game. most liberals already know he is not American and they simply do not care he is going to give them what they want or so they think....
if the government tried to convert to cashless simply say NO do not allow rfid fight them. my mag stripe on my license is dead as a doornail i de-magged it
"How can we strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness by making government more transparent, participatory, and collaborative?" correct and we would like to start the full disclosure by releasing his documents for review. we have a right to see them.
same reason Barney Frank can run a Gay prostitution ring out of his Tax payer paid house and get away with it. he is a democrat.
if you are part of the left machine you can sell gay sex out your house lie send dead fish to people cheat steal award contracts to your family. frame police officers extort money. and still claim you are the ones who care about the little guy. it is simply amazing.
once grandma opened her mouth the Kenyan government blocked all access to her and the rest of his family.
the Fact of the matter is he is REQUIRED BY LAW to produce proof he has failed to do that. and he is being allowed to get away with it. the fact that he chooses to block his paperwork proves he is hiding something. Someone could produce a copy. i am calling on someone to come forward and do the right thing!!! Blow the Whistle!
I find that anal retentive people like you attack spelling due to a lack of a better Argument.
cant win so they go for spelling. here is the thing i have no desire to spell check for you i do not find you that important.
now you reach down deep into la la land and pull anencephaly???? is it your contention the 1000 late terms a month doctor corpse was performing were all anencephaly cases?
Rate of occurrence A front view of an anencephalic fetus
In the United States, approximately 1 out of 150,000 to 200,000 babies is born with anencephaly each year. Research has suggested that, overall, female babies are more likely to be affected by the disorder.
kjheinz, total B.S. most states issue a form with NO info on it???
what a total and complete load of B.S. a birth cert has place of birth hospital and the doctor who performed the birth on it. this has always been the case. for you to LIE proves you have no integrity.
Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the news. Probably not. Some of us actually do that. Someone shot a doctor because people fed him "free speech" that said "kill this guy, he isn't one of us". Someone shot a soldier because people fed him "free speech" that said "kill this guy, he isn't one of us". Someone shot a security guard because people fed him "free speech" that said "kill this guy, he isn't one of us \
("Someone shot a doctor because people fed him "free speech" that said "kill this guy, he isn't one of us".)
list someone shot doctor beacuse he kills babies 1000 a month to be exact. all late term. you act surprised by this??? you are a diluted moron. you know what is wrong with you??? this so called Doctor killing 1000 baby's is fine but throw some Water in a Terrorists Face and you piss yourself.
like elf and peta those terrorists are libs. or the weather underground you know obamas buddy he was a lib. but you call republicans terrorists?? your a moron.
ladyhawk_two, what i find amusing is how you people love To protect free speech as long as you agree.
now lets play your game for a second. lets say i disagree with Obama. according to you i am forbidden from expressing that opinion.
it is not like i can recall him can i? do i have a means of Redress of my grievance? No. but i do have a right to my opinion. you may not like it but as long as there is a constitution . no matter how much idiots like obama trample on it it still Stands!
and it says i can speak freely. is a jefferson quote offensive to you? i am sure of bush was in office you would not be trying to make threats. but this is different. he is your president not mine. he has not produced the paperwork to convince me.
demanding to see his proof is idiotic?? i fail to see how. he has still not produced it. sooner or later it will leak and if it turns out he is not what he says he is heads will roll! starting with his! of course you and your ilk will try to make it ok suddenly to undermine the constitution.
At the very least any strip searches of minors must be done in the presence of a parent ???
if i am standing there game over once i show up all action Stops it is my problem. and i am under no obligation to force my child to do anything. the school should simply call the parent and ask is your child allowed to have ibuprofen? if a kid is suspected of something you call the parent. anything but that is a no no! and in my case anything but that = me mopping the floor with a teacher.
this is what is wrong with public school these morons no longer Teach kids they indoctrinate them into left wing tree hugging peta logic while they impose draconian rule on them.
this is why i send my kid to private school public education government education and like anything the government provides it is Garbage!!!! good luck with your socialized medicine ....
having to deal with them at all is directly due to the negligence pf the united states government. i should not have to pay a dime to fix this. the law makers should be sued and forced to pay for it out of pocket!
of course you can figure it out it is not a mystery. he is either eligible or not if he is he has nothing to hide. if he is not he has everything to hide. so the answer is he is not a born American and everyone knows it. everyone who knows he is spending cash to not disclose but makes excuses simply does not want him to lose. so they will lie and ignore the obvious.
cengime, i find it offensive that you even had the nerve to post anything from the constitution. your left wing movement has soiled the constitution at will and now you try to use it to win an argument?? you have no respect for the document.
your fake president would like nothing more then to see the constitution burn in favor of a communist regime. you know it and i know it so do not insult us by trying to use it to win an argument.
the government panders to industry and their lobby even if it means we get exposed to crime and disease an terrorism. the government insulates itself from the effects so why should they care?
We have a resurgence of polio, plague/ leprosy, chagas. and a whole host of other lovely sicknesses. not to mention rampant Gang violence and trash and pollution. uninsured/unlicensed drivers and a whole host of other cool things. it is like the smash up derby!!! not to mention the way they use the emergency rooms when they get the sniffles! when i am bleeding out and have to wait for some 3rd world chola to have her kid diagnosed with a cold it Great! and to top it off the California public Education system is Second to none..... no wait actually it was #1 not we are 50th behind Mississippi. i dont even mind the fact i pay 15k a year to send my kid to private school and still have to subsidize all of the illegals.! it is just so worth it!
Americans would never let the government take over the banking system and hijack major industries only to hand over power to labor unions and undermine investors. that would be downright un-American!
this is just the kind of move Stalin Lenin and Hitler did. we would never allow that to happen
cengime, you haven't the first clue of what you speak
you keep spewing inaccurate statements
like "Biden was elected Vice President by the Electoral College" as for your Definition of what Treason is it is painfully obvious you lack even the fundamental education to weigh in on any subject related to politics.
please read the Definition of Treason....
TREASON - This word imports a betraying, treachery, or breach of allegiance.
The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
By this Definition any politicians who buddy up to known enemys of the us are guilty.
as for this stupid Statement "Releasing birth records is not the routine thing you make it out to be." it matters not if it is routine it is REQUIRED!!!!! as for you making it out to be some chore beyond the scope it is simply a matter of Saying Here it is. Obama has spent millions hiding it when he could have simply produced it! he hides it not because he has a right to NE HAS NO RIGHT TO! he hides it because he has something to hide!!!!!!
if he is hiding that what else is he hiding? Why did he let black panthers who were obviously engaging in voter intimidation on any non obama voters given a free pass and allowed to walk free? Why is Acorn being accused of wide spread voter fraud? all under the watchful eye of the Obamanation....
wrong biden was picked by obama Electoral College has nothing to do with the VP i don't recall having a choice of VP on any ballot.
as for obama and treason? i think the case could be made for plenty of politicians! any politicians that refuses to protect the us border
let me paint a scenario for you.
terrorists cross the us Mexico border and kill Americans.
Every politician who resisted the border fence or stonewalled any policy to protect us from the threat would be guilty of Treason. it is just a matter of if the politicians will do anything the answer is no they protect one another.
i have a better idea cut off all services to them and slam any company that hires them. slam any land ,lord who rents to them and take away anchor baby provisions. and they will go home!
Absolutely NOT!! no money for California! i was born and raised here and i do not want this state bailed out!i want it bankrupt! the sooner the better. mater of fact i want a full blown Census boycott! anything we can do to financially crush California is a good thing.
this state is 100% corrupt and selling out the people!
cengime, it seems to me you are convinced Obama committed Fraud.
you said and i Quote "What are you trying to achieve? After you bring down Obama, are you going to try to prove that Joe Biden was not actually born in Scranton, demanding to see his long form birth certificate, school records, and expired passports?"
you seem genuinely concerned that he does not have a US birth certificate.
i am going to answer your question i feel i owe you at least that much!
I feel he is not eligible as do you it would seem. as for Joe Biden? i am pretty sure if Obama is proven to have commited the biggest Fraud on the Us public Good old jow will be out on his butt before he even tries to swear in. the reason is simple Biden cant step in and be VP the guy who picked him was in the throws of committing a crime and that taints the entire cabinet. the entire thing would have to be scrubbed and re done. in all likelihood Obama would be charged with High Treason and sent to a really small cell on Gitmo preferably.
poll numbers are often fixed if you ask 1000 know liberals if they love obama they will all say yes. i can get a poll to claim 90% of americans think killing kids is a good thing if i present it to the right crowd and ask the questions the right way. oh and i ask all liberals.
lol i find it amusing that you somehow think it is okay to use Cannabis to bail the country out after spending the last 50 years making a pariah out of people who smoked it and destroying countless lives.
what the hell makes you think any pot farmer will comply?? why would they want to help the government who screwed them? in addition suddenly the government is in dire straits so it wants to be the Dealer? now it is okay to be the supplier?
cengime, dupe posts means by a single author if i as an individual post about something am i expected to review the entire site prior? or can i express my thoughts OPENLY? the fact that 1000's of people all have the same question does not mean duplicate posts. it means a large majority of people demand the same thing. the government must comply and produce what we ask for. until they do this man is not the president. if he is found to have lied he should be arrested and tried for the crime of Treason.
environmental changes happen all the time throughout history even before man had the capacity to cause damage. the face of the matter is throwing money at it wont help allowing kelly paper to clear cut trees seems like as great place to start but the government will not lift a finger to stop that will they?? paper could simply be made out of hemp fiber grown domestically no more trees cut. this could happen with a simple pen stroke but do you think the government will do it??? of course not.
i officially have no respect for the us government. i declare myself sovereign unto myself and no longer live by the rule of this country. all bets are off people.
it is increasingly obvious the people who run this site have no real interest in transparency or anything of the like. it is obvious based on sheer volume of people asking this is a Huge issue. to Americans. to ban users who disagree with you and your opinion only proves the point you are so in denial of. the left could care less about fair play. ban us all We will not stop! what will happen is we will form a new site that does not Censor people.
the un report is a product of fraud many scientists said they were consulted in the issue and once they provided opinion their name was added as a supporter many did no support the findings but cant get their names off the list.
if i was trying to run the country i would be obligated to do just that. we all know if anyone who opposes obamanation will be harassed by the left is that what ya wanted?
Tom you miss the point Without funding the State can not undermine us can they?? as long as the State has funding they will ignore the will of the people. Who cares what we want. they have the money to simply do as they wish.
The Fact is that no matter how much Data is provided the government will do what it wants. not what is best for the people.
oh i am sorry i was unaware this site was reserved for the left wingers like yourself. i was under the impression all Americans could partake or is this like the Chrysler dealership Deal?
i agree the government is going counter to the will of the people. the one job the government has to protect us from invasion and they cant even do that right!
the document in question is called A document of live birth. it is not a birth Certificate. it is also not accepted by Hawaii. even they do not Recognize that document as A Birth Certificate. this is a proper form http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg
notice it clearly States place of Birth?? the reason he will not produce this document is that once he does we can force Verification against the public Record! and if forged we can prove fraud!
he will never release it the simply reason why is that he does not have it and once it becomes public he will not only be removed from office he may well be charged as a criminal !!!
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