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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »It's been a pleasure chatting with you all for the past few days!!
It's been great talking with you all and hearing what everyone has to say. I won't be back except maybe to check in once in awhile and see what's going on. But I'm spending too much time here because I enjoy it and it's time to get back to my life. Take care, everyone, and God bless us all, even those that don't want it. :) If I've been chatting with you and you want to continue our discussion, here's an email ...more »
14 comments for Idea: It's been a pleasure chatting with you all for the past few days!!It's been great talking with you all and hearing what everyone has to say. I won't be back except maybe to check in once in awhile and see what's going on. But I'm spending too much time here because I enjoy it and it's time to get back to my life.
Take care, everyone, and God bless us all, even those that don't want it. :)
If I've been chatting with you and you want to continue our discussion, here's an email that I don't mind having to dispose of it I get a million emails that I don't want. SoCaDeb@aol.com Please just those that I've been chatting with are invited to email. I would appreciate that. :)
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HR 1207 Would make an audit of the Federal Reserve happen and be public. I think all financial records of every member personally should be public, Health Records of Potus and VPotus should be necessary as well as tax returns. Any money spent and on what should be made public by each commitee that oversees the spending. All bills signed into law should be made public including those who signed it. The Presidents Curriculum ...more »
11 comments for Idea: All recordsHR 1207 Would make an audit of the Federal Reserve happen and be public. I think all financial records of every member personally should be public, Health Records of Potus and VPotus should be necessary as well as tax returns. Any money spent and on what should be made public by each commitee that oversees the spending. All bills signed into law should be made public including those who signed it. The Presidents Curriculum Vitae should be made public and any jobs and decisions he made should be made public. The President's long form birth cerificate should be made public and his former performance records in school and work should be made public. I have to prove mine when I apply for jobs and my 8 year old needs the long form birth certificate just to play soccer. The President promised a new age of transparency well let's have it then.
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »Let's Say the SCOTUS Agrees to Hear Phil Berg. What then?
43 comments for Idea: Let's Say the SCOTUS Agrees to Hear Phil Berg. What then?This thread is for playing out Phil's cases in an actual court. We get to present Phils evidence against Obama in its entirety. And we get to break down his case and Obama's logical responses in court. OK?
Phil is asking for discovery.
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4 comments for Idea: Sorry: The last topic should have said: It this site hard for others besides myself to navigate.I really need to proofread before I put these things out there. Sorry.
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »Is this site for others besides myself to navigate?
Is it just me? I'm not overly computer smart, but I'm having a difficult time navigating this site. When I leave for a few hours, I come back and I don't know which topics I've been involved in because there's so many new ones that appeared while I was gone. I then find myself going there every topic finding conversations that I was involved in with others. Also it appears that after a several-hour period ...more »
4 comments for Idea: Is this site for others besides myself to navigate?Is it just me? I'm not overly computer smart, but I'm having a difficult time navigating this site.
When I leave for a few hours, I come back and I don't know which topics I've been involved in because there's so many new ones that appeared while I was gone. I then find myself going there every topic finding conversations that I was involved in with others.
Also it appears that after a several-hour period the topics that were like from yesterday are so many pages back that they are no longer of interest to people, but if you put up the topic again it really is justifed as being a duplicate.
Can someone tell me an easier way to navigate this or is this just how it is?
I would appreciate your comments.
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »OK, I've Been Toying Around with You Birfers. Here's the Scoop....
Look, I've been playing around with you guys. You've been asking questions, but you haven't been asking the right questions. I KNOW that birfer issues are all fake. I don't imagine it. This entire birfer story was concocted by PUMAS in Texas in June 2008. After Hillary lost the Democratic nomination, they got together and decided that Obama had no chance of defeating McCain in November. But they wanted ...more »
196 comments for Idea: OK, I've Been Toying Around with You Birfers. Here's the Scoop....Look, I've been playing around with you guys. You've been asking questions, but you haven't been asking the right questions.
I KNOW that birfer issues are all fake. I don't imagine it.
This entire birfer story was concocted by PUMAS in Texas in June 2008. After Hillary lost the Democratic nomination, they got together and decided that Obama had no chance of defeating McCain in November. But they wanted to make sure it happened. So they dug around, trying to come up with some dirt on him. Ex-girlfriends, sex, drugs, homosexuality, whatever. They ran the gamut.
One PUMA, Linda Sue Belcher (nee Linda Starr) came up with Obama's Indonesian school records, noticed that Obama's religion was listed as Muslim and that his last name was listed as Soetoro. From this she concocted the 'born in Kenya' story and the Indonesian citizen story.
How do I know this?
A lawyer friend of mine SAT IN ON THE PUMA MEETINGS. She is a PJ poster. (www.politijab.com) Her online name is Allison. Her real name is none of your business.
This whole birfer story was supposed to be the Republican October Surprise. It wasn't supposed to be offered publicly until two weeks before the election.
But Linda Starr took the germ of the story to that legal genius, Phil Berg, and he ran straight to court with a half-cocked story before the details could be filled in. That's where the Dudley Doright BC came in. That's why he claimed he already had the Sarah Obama tape which wasn't made until late October.
But the news didn't break properly in August. The Democratic National Convention overshadowed it, then the Republican National Convention, then the economic crisis, then the Sarah Palin debacle.
By the time the story was ready to pull out of the oven, it was toast. Berg had screwed up the legal filings in his lust for glory and the opportunity to be "first". The October Surprise failed.
These people have been playing you birfers for months. They know this issue is a lie. But what the heck? Money is money, right?
I can back up EVERY SINGLE THING I HAVE SAID HERE.
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I smell a rat! With all the murders that occur on a daily basis in this country it's always suspect when the MSM, of recent, has devoted much attention to those that they can tag as "anti-government", "white supremacist", "acts of domestic terrorism", etc. Individuals who have some modicum of intelligence and the ability to exercise critical thinking skills, know that almost always, our own government is behind the orchestration ...more »
12 comments for Idea: Media Portrays Suspected Holocaust Museum Shooter as “Antigovernment Extremist”I smell a rat! With all the murders that occur on a daily basis in this country it's always suspect when the MSM, of recent, has devoted much attention to those that they can tag as "anti-government", "white supremacist", "acts of domestic terrorism", etc. Individuals who have some modicum of intelligence and the ability to exercise critical thinking skills, know that almost always, our own government is behind the orchestration of these events. Since DHS and their report claim Right Wing Extremists include so many of the conservative beliefs and conservatives (opposing gun control, abortion, big government, support for Ron Paul, Christians, etc) and apparently wish to sell the idea that we are right up there with the likes of the KKK, Neo-Nazis, et al - we need to keep an eye on how this gets reported and any actions taken by DHS/government to further their incorrect claims about who the Right Wing Extremists are. Not to mention if they try to use this as an excuse to further erode our freedoms.
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »Still Waiting? What say Barry. How bout them records????
3 comments for Idea: Still Waiting? What say Barry. How bout them records????Barry,
We are still waiting for you to stop hiding behind your attornies and release your BC, passport, school & medical records.....
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8 comments for Idea: The moderater has rejected my last two postsGee, wonder why that is. Has'nt been much "birther" stuff in the last 48 hrs either. Gee, wonder why that is
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »Review honest research
For anyone who is really interested in the facts of the meaning of "natural born citizen" as required by the Constitution, listed below are some links which will enlighten the reader. However, some individuals posting here prefer to just trade insults rather than look into the research. The meaning of the phrases "natural born citizen" and "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" are supremely important as any honest seeker ...more »
7 comments for Idea: Review honest researchFor anyone who is really interested in the facts of the meaning of "natural born citizen" as required by the Constitution, listed below are some links which will enlighten the reader. However, some individuals posting here prefer to just trade insults rather than look into the research. The meaning of the phrases "natural born citizen" and "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" are supremely important as any honest seeker attempts to learn whether or not Mr. Obama is eligible to the office of POTUS. If he is not a "natural born citizen", he is ineligible. The nasty insults are a bore and waste of time and indicate those tossing them really aren't looking for the truth. I won't spend more time reading them.
Some folks suggest going to snopes for info, but are apparently unaware that "snopes" is a man and wife in LA (she a housewife, he a web designer), Democrat supporters of Obama. It appears that they tend to spin negative information about him. Read that site if you want, but understand the inherent bias. I've worked on research of the "eligibility" issue for a year (with great info from many others) and I challenge you to read all the historical research on the following sites with an honest attitude for the facts of "natural born citizen."
Natural-Born is Nationality from Natural Law. It is determined by the father at birth, from which all rights of birth and inheritance flow. Barack Obama's father was a Kenyan British colonial. Read Vatttel's Law of Nations.
Natural-Born Citizen, A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government.
Black's Law Dictionary, 17th Ed. (1999)
Naturalized-Citizen, A foreign born [or born of foreign parentage] who attains citizenship by law. Black's, 17th Ed (1999)
The legislative definition of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was defined as "not owing allegiance to any other."
In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and NOT SUBJECT to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”
Rep. Bingham, commenting on Section 1992, said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parentS (plural) NOT OWING allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen”.
Senator Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee when the 14th Amendment was written said,
"... 'all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens'... that means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof'.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof'? NOT OWING allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."
Emerich de Vattel was a historic writer on the law, from whom the framers drew their understanding. Following is from his Law of Nations.
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of PARENTS who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. NOTE THE PLURAL- TWO PARENTS who are citizens.
Statutes covering foreign birth, or birth to a foreigner, are Naturalization laws as they provide for the revocation of that alien nationality. Statutes cannot create or redefine Natural-Born, an immutable condition occurring from two U.S. citizen parents. http://paralegalnm.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/barack-hussein-obama-a-natural-born-subject-of-great-britain/
National law prevented the creation of conflicting dual citizenships between other nations' citizens. The simple fact that Obama had a foreign father removes the possibility of Natural Born status.
If he was born in the US, he would still be ineligible for the office, due to the fact that his father was a Kenyan, a British subject, which citizenship passed to Obama at birth.
Obama was born with a split allegiance and is therefore ineligible to be a "natural born" citizen. This split allegiance becomes evident in his interference in the political affairs of Kenya and the Mideast, while declaring himself to be a "citizen of the world." The founders of our country specifically intended that only one whose sole allegiance is to the United States would be eligible to serve in the presidency.
From Fightthesmears website-
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire.
As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948.
That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."
The Constitution is the supreme law of the US and the intent and meaning of the writers of that document is today's law. They defined "natural born citizen" and Mr. Obama, having been under allegiance to Britain at his birth, cannot meet the test
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/stand-by-me/
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/article-ii-natural-born-citizen-mean.html
http://volokh.com/posts/1204265246.shtml
8 USC 1409(c) regarding out-of-wedlock birth, re possible citizenship from mother (1961 version- the current one is revised and different)
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn/htm or go to home page, on the left, click on TOF and choose the topic Natural Born
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I know how this whole birth certificate controversy can go away. Mr. President, you can have a special State of the Union Address over this issue, followed by voting, over the phone lines. But you must tell the media to get the word out about the Address and that there will be a vote after or during your Address, regarding the citizenship issue. Then let the American people decide. Let every household have one vote. ...more »
13 comments for Idea: American Idol VoteI know how this whole birth certificate controversy can go away. Mr. President, you can have a special State of the Union Address over this issue, followed by voting, over the phone lines. But you must tell the media to get the word out about the Address and that there will be a vote after or during your Address, regarding the citizenship issue. Then let the American people decide. Let every household have one vote. I'm sure there is plenty of technology out there to toss out duplicate voting. If a large sector of the American citizenry wants you to prove that you are a natural born American citizen, what choice do you have but to produce the records that will put an end to all of this nonsense (at the taxpayer expense at that)? The TV media is still the most effective way to get the attention of the American public. If you really want transparency, you will not ignore this idea.
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »Who will honestly consider the facts of eligibility
I have provided many links and references on this site, replying with information to the comments of others. For anyone who is really interested in the facts of the meaning of "natural born citizen" as required by the Constitution, one more time I'll list below some of those links which will enlighten the reader. However, some individuals posting here prefer to just trade insults rather than look into the research. The ...more »
6 comments for Idea: Who will honestly consider the facts of eligibilityI have provided many links and references on this site, replying with information to the comments of others. For anyone who is really interested in the facts of the meaning of "natural born citizen" as required by the Constitution, one more time I'll list below some of those links which will enlighten the reader. However, some individuals posting here prefer to just trade insults rather than look into the research. The birth certificate is a strawman, sending many people off chasing irrelevant rabbits. The meaning of the phrases "natural born citizen" and "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" are supremely important as any honest seeker attempts to learn whether or not Mr. Obama is eligible to the office of POTUS. If he is not a "natural born citizen", he is ineligible. The nasty insults are a bore and waste of time and indicate those tossing them really don't want to know the truth. I won't spend more time reading them.
Some folks suggest going to snopes for confirmations, but are apparently unaware that "snopes" is a man and wife in LA (she a housewife, he a web designer) who are Democrat supporters of Obama. They tend to disregard negative information about him and spin to enhance their preference. Read that site if you want, but understand the inherent bias. I've worked on research of the "eligibility" issue for many months, leading to my conclusion that due to his birth as a British subject and adoption by his Indonesian step-father, he can never be a "natural born citizen." I challenge you to read all the historical research on the following sites with an honest attitude for the facts of "natural born citizen."
Natural-Born is Nationality from Natural Law. It is determined by the father at birth, from which all rights of birth and inheritance flow. Barack Obama's father was a Kenyan British colonial. Read Vatttel's Law of Nations.
Natural-Born Citizen, A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government.
Black's Law Dictionary, 17th Ed. (1999)
Naturalized-Citizen, A foreign born [or born of foreign parentage] who attains citizenship by law. Black's, 17th Ed (1999)
The legislative definition of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was defined as "not owing allegiance to any other."
In the year 1866, the United States for the first time adopted a local municipal law under Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes that read: “All persons born in the United States and NOT SUBJECT to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are declared to be citizens of the United States.”
Rep. Bingham, commenting on Section 1992, said it means “every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parentS (plural) NOT OWING allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen”.
Senator Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee when the 14th Amendment was written said,
"... 'all persons born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens'... that means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof'.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof'? NOT OWING allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."
Emerich de Vattel was a consummate writer on the law, from whom the framers drew their understanding. Following is from his Law of Nations.
§ 212. Citizens and natives.
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of PARENTS who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. NOTE THE PLURAL- TWO PARENTS who are citizens.
Statutes over foreign birth, or birth to a foreigner, are Naturalization laws as they provide for the revocation of that alien nationality. Statutes cannot create or redefine Natural-Born, an immutable condition occurring from two U.S. citizen parents. http://paralegalnm.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/barack-hussein-obama-a-natural-born-subject-of-great-britain/
National law prevented the creation of conflicting dual citizenships between other nations' citizens. The simple fact that Obama had a foreign father removes the possibility of Natural Born status.
If he was born in the US, he would still be ineligible for the office, due to the fact that his father was a Kenyan, a British subject, which citizenship passed to Obama at birth.
Obama was born with a split allegiance and is therefore ineligible to be a "natural born" citizen. This split allegiance becomes evident in his interference in the political affairs of Kenya and the Mideast, while declaring himself to be a "citizen of the world." The founders of our country specifically intended that only one whose sole allegiance is to the United States would be eligible to serve in the presidency.
From Fightthesmears website-
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire.
As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948.
That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."
The Constitution is the supreme law of the US and the intent and meaning of the writers of that document is today's law. They defined "natural born citizen" and Mr. Obama, having been under allegiance to Britain at his birth, cannot meet the test
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/stand-by-me/
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2009/04/article-ii-natural-born-citizen-mean.html
http://volokh.com/posts/1204265246.shtml
8 USC 1409(c) regarding out-of-wedlock birth, re possible citizenship from mother (1961 version- the current one is revised and different)
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn/htm or go to home page, on the left, click on TOF and choose the topic Natural Born
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69 comments for Idea: Revolutionary IdeasEvery normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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Well, it looks as if birfer rhetoric has gone actual. Apparently, this happened earlier today, but I'm just hearing about it now. Well, you were right wing fringe loonies before. Now you're DANGEROUS right wing fringe loonies. Just as you've painted Obama guilty by association with Ayers, you won't be able to shake this first birfer murder from the collective national perception. Welcome to the front page, ...more »
16 comments for Idea: The Guy Von Brunn, the Holocost Museum Killer, Was a BirferWell, it looks as if birfer rhetoric has gone actual. Apparently, this happened earlier today, but I'm just hearing about it now.
Well, you were right wing fringe loonies before. Now you're DANGEROUS right wing fringe loonies. Just as you've painted Obama guilty by association with Ayers, you won't be able to shake this first birfer murder from the collective national perception.
Welcome to the front page, birfers.
This isn't funny.
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19 comments for Idea: I think Obama is taking too much vacation time.Obama and his wife and family seem to be taking a lot of vacation time. How do we as taxpayers have all of this extra money for the Obamas to be vacationing, sightseeing and having date night at taxpayer expense?
The Obamas should be cutting back just like the rest of us are.
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12 comments for Idea: Why is the GOVT on a hiring spree when the rest of the country is cutting jobs?I'd like to know why all of a sudden we have all of this money to hire all of these people appointed by Obama. Each of these appointments needs a staff. It becomse a huge proposition. It's not just the pay for the person appointed by Obama; it's the cost of the entire staffing.
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19 comments for Idea: Politician's should have the same medical package and social security package as the rest of us.I think all politicians should have the same benefit packages that the rest of us get.
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15 comments for Idea: I think the public should CAP what politicians are paid.I think the public, taxpayers, should govern how much politicians should be paid. I think no raises should be given to any politician unless it's put on the ballot for the taxpayers to vote on it.
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33 comments for Idea: How dare Obama appoint a Pay CZAR to oversee what people are paid.Can you believe this? How can people stand this?
I don't want anyone from the government telling private industry how much they should be paid. That is a business decision that should be based on what the market will bear and profits.
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9 comments for Idea: THE JEWS WON'T LET HIM TALKGOOD OLD REV. WRIGHT SAID THAT "THE JEWS WON'T LET HIM TALK" TODAY.
BUT IN 4 OR 5 YEARS AFTER HE IS OUT OF OFFICE THEN HE CAN TALK.
NICE GUY THAT REV. WRIGHT.
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Rush Limbaugh Nationwide attention about President Obama's lack of producing a long-form birth certificate proving his eligibility for office got a boost today when top-rated radio host Rush Limbaugh joked about the subject in comparing Obama to God. Asking rhetorically what God has in common with Obama, Limbaugh said, "Neither has a birth certificate." "How do they differ?" Limbaugh continued. "God does not think ...more »
1 comment for Idea: FELLOW BIRTHERS: ONE MORE: WND HEADLINERush Limbaugh
Nationwide attention about President Obama's lack of producing a long-form birth certificate proving his eligibility for office got a boost today when top-rated radio host Rush Limbaugh joked about the subject in comparing Obama to God.
Asking rhetorically what God has in common with Obama, Limbaugh said, "Neither has a birth certificate."
"How do they differ?" Limbaugh continued. "God does not think he's Obama. And there's another difference. Liberals love Obama."
Limbaugh repeated the punch lines several times throughout his show and noted, "another difference is that Obama gets better press. ... Another difference is that God only demands to be worshipped once a week."
Later, he sprinkled in other differences, including:
* God asks for only 10 percent of your money
* God gives you freedom to live your life as you choose
* God's plan to save us is actually written down for you to read
Upon hearing the discussion, one listener in Miami phoned in to tell Limbaugh, "You're acting like you're God."
Where's the proof Barack Obama was born in the U.S. or that he fulfills the "natural-born American" clause in the Constitution? If you still want to see it, join more than 380,000 others and sign up now!
The host responded, "I am better than most people but I don't think I'm God. Obama does. He's got a messianic complex."
Limbaugh commented that left-leaning listeners "can't stand any comedy about Obama."
The comparison to God comes after recent comments by Newsweek editor Evan Thomas, who said on MSNBC's "Hardball" that Obama was "sort of God."
With the exception of extensive coverage by WND, the subject of Obama's eligibility for office based on his birth record has received little, if any, attention from large media outlets.
Limbaugh previously mentioned the birth certificate issue just days before the 2008 election, when Obama's campaign announced the candidate would rush to Hawaii to visit his dying grandmother, but took several says before actually making the trip. Limbaugh said on Oct. 23:
See, I think this is about something else. You know what's really percolating out there? I've been laying low on this because it hasn't met the threshold to pass the smell test on this program.
This birth certificate business, this lawsuit that a guy named Philip Berg filed in Philadelphia in August for Obama to produce his genuine birth certificate and he still hasn't replied. You've got a deathly ill grandmother, you are going to rush to her side a few days from now, when you first announced this, you're going to rush, you're going to hurry, you're going to make tracks, you're going to get over there because you don't want your grandmother to die before you got there like your mother did, but somehow you keep campaigning, you take three days to get over there, if he's left yet, and this birth certificate business, I'm just wondering if something's up. I have no clue, and folks, I'm telling you, this has not reached the threshold until now, and it's popping up all over the place. There are a lot of people now that are starting to speculate and be curious about this.
I don't know, let's say for example that somebody does come up with proof that something's screwy with his birth certificate and something's screwy about the fact that he's allegedly a natural citizen, American citizen, but may not be, dual citizenship, born in Kenya, who knows, there's all kinds of stuff out – so what? What's going to happen this late in the campaign? Do you think if it's proven that they're going to dump him? That's not going to happen. But still, these are just questions that I have. And, look, both of my parents have died. When I was told the end was near, bam, I got there, fast as I could. I didn't announce to the audience, "I just got word my father is said to be passing away and in four or five days I'm going to go to Missouri. In the meantime, I will not leave you here on this radio program." These are just natural questions. I think any inquisitive reporter – I know the risk I'm running here by raising all this. But I wouldn't be me if I didn't do that.
WND has been reporting since before the election on questions – and lawsuits – raised over Obama's birth and eligibility. He reported in his book he was born in Hawaii and his half-sister agrees. But the woman the president says is his paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama, claimed to have been present at her grandson's birth in Mombasa, Kenya.
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »Tell the taxpayers EXACTLY how the GM dealers were chosen to close
48 comments for Idea: Tell the taxpayers EXACTLY how the GM dealers were chosen to closeTell the taxpayers EXACTLY how the GM dealers were chosen to close. Several dealers that were ordered to close were profitable and award winning dealers. At least one in Minnesota only lost their franchise after another dealership about 30 miles away spoke to their congressman about their order to close, which happened to be reversed shortly after.
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I disagreeThis idea is active.Making Data More Accessible »The king has no clothes!!!... err I mean BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!
THE OLD FABLE ABOUT THE KING WHO THOUGHT HE WAS WEARING THE MOST FINEST CLOTHING IN THE WORLD THAT NO ONE COULD SEE THEM. HE WAS IN ACUALITY BUCK NAKED, BUT ALL THE POOR PEASANTS WERE TOO AFRAID TO SAY SO. THIS IS THE STORY OF OUR PRETEND "DEMANDER AND THIEF" BHO. HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BECAUSE HE HAS SPENT A MILLION DOLAARS HIDING HIMSELF FROM US POOR TAXPAYERS. YET NO ONE HAS THE BALLS TO SAY HE IS A BUCK ...more »
4 comments for Idea: The king has no clothes!!!... err I mean BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!THE OLD FABLE ABOUT THE KING WHO THOUGHT HE WAS WEARING THE MOST FINEST CLOTHING IN THE WORLD THAT NO ONE COULD SEE THEM. HE WAS IN ACUALITY BUCK NAKED, BUT ALL THE POOR PEASANTS WERE TOO AFRAID TO SAY SO.
THIS IS THE STORY OF OUR PRETEND "DEMANDER AND THIEF" BHO.
HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BECAUSE HE HAS SPENT A MILLION DOLAARS HIDING HIMSELF FROM US POOR TAXPAYERS. YET NO ONE HAS THE BALLS TO SAY HE IS A BUCK NAKED TRAITOR AND USURPER.
BILLBOARDS ARE'NT ALLOWED???
LET THE YARD SIGN CAMPAIGN BEGIN: WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE???
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