OpenGov - Open Government Brainstorm

Affirmed. We need symbols leading to the black market outlets.

Like the tramps who used to ride the trains did.

That might work until they put the RFID chip into the paper money. The barter system isn't legal but if everyone does it descreetly than who can prove that it ever happened?

What? something happened? what? I know nothing, nothing . . .

Imagine if you will, congress explaining to 7-years-olds why they can't trade toys.

This is the problem with discretionary enforcement. If they actually were compelled to enforce the laws equitably, the whole population would rise up against their arrogance.

This all sounds great, but what do you do when they finally convert to a cashless electronic society?

The ultimate solution would be to get rid of the FED and allow a free market to exist in constitutional currency; gold and silver coin.

I doubt they can achieve cashless in our generation. There is too much money changing hands in situations where even congress doesn't want watched for that to succeed.

I agree on the currency thing. We need to trash this whole power to manipulate our own personal money.

Cutting the government...hmmm...I kinda like that idea.

I've said elsewhere I believe whole-heartedly in the black market.

It is an affirmation of independence, and a correct civil disobedience.

Why does it have to be a "black" market? ya'll are racist. LOL. I would like to know why we have to use the federal reverve? I never wanted to go through that bank for anything...but I am forced to do it though. The federal reserve is no more ran by the feds than federal express is...yet.

I know. I like black humor but the connotation has been all messed up.

I don't keep money in the banks. I won't. Minimal for account purposes.

When things go bad...and I mean really bad...I will trade lead for food, water and freedom. Gold won't hold value like lead will when it gets bad.

Yes, one is always more persuasive when armed. LOL

Good idea and the government is pushing us to it.

if the government tried to convert to cashless simply say NO do not allow rfid

fight them.

my mag stripe on my license is dead as a doornail

i de-magged it

How patriotic. "America... love it or leave it!" Whatever happened to that phrase people threw around so casually a couple of years back? Oh well.

your making me so hot jen

the way you say patriotic make me want to paint you up in red white and blue whip cream and lick you all over. i want to give you my patriotic Popsicle.

Jen, I didn't see what contribution you had to offer other than "I hate America"!

Just remember these words..."to fight ememies, foreign and domestic"...you do know where that comes from right?

Nothing makes me hotter than old, gross men with bad grammar and reading comprehension problems! Unfortunately, we all know what happens to Popsicles when they get warm. I'm sorry for your loss, mrbuzzsaw. :(

Jen c 'America love it or leave it" Is a message....that all who come here, all who live here.. Even if they were born here....Can love not only us, ( alot of foreigners and other countries and religions that I'll leave nameless for now hate us for no reason but they want to come here and walk amongst us)but, our ways............The American way....living with neighbors/officials that respect our rights under the constitution and our property, our CHRISTIAN HERITAGE THAT IS NOT BEING DICLOSED IN THE SCHOOLS FOR A REASON AND,the fact that Americans DONT have to cater to any foreighn influence or group.....Many countries that hate us hate us because they are jealous of us but they want everything we have......They hate us and the Jewish people and it's because THEY JUST HATE PERIOD...That is what that message is.......... It does not mean love officials or their ways.....It does not mean love a forced ANTICONSTITUTIONAL CURRENCY...That is illegal ....

A truly expansive black market is a wonderful meeting ground for open government (we make our own again) and a productive collaborative exercise for which we might congratulate ourselves.

What better civil response could there be than that? In spirit and in fact.

gypsy_sage, well stated.

I am willing to bet by Jens statement that she looks just like a much older Hillary Clinton with very short greasy hair and bad skin...her entire wardrobe is white T-shirts and tacky jeans.

Rooster,

Take another look. Men wear white t-shirts. Women do not.

Imagine.

That was my point entirely...thanks.

The new world order wants everyone to be on the cashless system of currency where all purchases are traced and taxed. You are a number and you will comply with regulation that you have zero say in. This is your future, unless you pull your head out and start watching C-SPAN and giving a damn. Write your representation often, let them know your discontention.

...and rationed. Did you ever see the movie Soylent Green with Carleton Heston? Soylent Green is made from PEOPLE! Get your rations. Accept the Mark of the beast!

NO THANKS.

As frustrating as supporting this government is, I still believe paying taxes is our patriotic duty. However, there are times when I have serious concerns about how long I'll be able to keep up that belief.