OpenGov - Open Government Brainstorm

When an officer of the law asks to see my drivers license to make sure I have the right to drive, I produce it. If I have nothing to hide, it is no big deal. Only the guilty need to act guilty, by hiding what would really put an end to this. I have my Birth Certificate. A real one. If Obama shows me his REAL one, I'll show him mine. Otherwise he hasn't proved squat. As transparent as a 6" sheet of lead. What are you hiding??????

Expect to get some negative responsives from a couple of people here. They are having to keep extremely busy with their sarcasim and name calling. I wonder if they are getting welfare because they have so much time on their hands. Wales (U.K)unemployment is high, but their disabled people that draw checks are triple. What are the statistics here in America? Too many?

$800,000+ in attorney fees says it is not gossip.

Nobody in the history of this country was more successful at passing what conservatives will tell you are their key issues. He was not a failure by any stretch of the imagination if you are judging by how much of his party's agenda was achieved.

What did he do to deserve this title?

Biggest tax cuts in history

Biggest cuts in "social" programs

Biggest rollbacks of environmental protections

Most defense spending ever

Biggest rollbacks in business and development regulations

Biggest giveaways of public land for mountaintop mining and timber

Biggest crackdown on civil liberties

Biggest cuts in higher education budgets

Privatization of Military, law enforcement and prison infrastructure

Biggest cuts in Veteran's benefits

Two new ultra right Supreme Court picks

And on and on...

There is nothing this man did that was a failure...if you are judging by whether one advances his party's interests. He was able to accomplish things that conservatives have been whimpering that the dirty "Libtard" congresses of Nixon, Bush I, and Reagan blocked them from doing for 40 years.

Well, the stars lined up for them. They got everything they said would "free capitalism" from the bonds of "big government" to work it's magic.

What did we get?

Worst job creation record since Hoover

Actually LOST jobs over his entire first term

300,000 jobs for his second term

(Jimmy Carter created 10 million jobs in "worst economy in history”)

Millions more people without health insurance

Millions more collecting unemployment from the government

Millions of people’s retirement saving WIPED OUT

Homes worth half what people paid for them

Major decline of respect for US in the world

Continued terrorist attacks on US soil (Anthrax? Snipers?)

Stagnant wages in the midst of inflation in the prices of fuel, food, education and health care resulting in a NET LOSS in the standard of living of the vast majority in this country

Largest gap between rich and poor in this country since the beginning of the Great Depression

It is not George W. Bush's fault and it is not his failure. The fault for the state of this country rests firmly on the POLICIES not the PERSONALITY of GEORGE W BUSH! It is conservative, trickle down, “let business regulate itself” policies that got us where we are.

If we don't acknowledge that then we will repeat this experiment again in the next election. It is important for people to know what they are going to get when they vote for conservatives.

If you make 250,000 a year or more and you want to shut the door to prosperity behind you so you don't need to share your loot then you should vote republican.

But if you are trying to get there, and want policies that help that happen, like a good education and healthcare alternatives so you don't get trapped in a job you hate…even though you have a great idea for a business...then you need to vote for New Deal Liberalism.

New Deal Liberalism is social spending to help you succeed and government regulation to keep powerful corporate interests from rolling right over you and crushing your hopes to line their own pockets the way they did to millions of others in the last 8 years.

GDP growth

Who’s better for the economy? Democrats or Republicans? If you take the GDP Growth of all the presidents since FDR they rank like this.

#1) Kennedy

#2) Truman

#3) Clinton

#4) Reagan

#5) Carter

#6) Eisenhower

#7) Nixon

#8) Bush 1

#9) Bush 2

cloudscape,

Try unemployed, due to the mess your champions made of the economy. Not that BO knows what the hell he's doing to fix it.

However, the BC controversy is a manufactured piece of crap. To briefly recap:

Obama asked for a copy of his birth certificate. Hawaii issued him what they issue everybody who asks for a copy of their birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth. He displayed it on the internet, just so everyone could see it. What he displayed contains all of the information necessary to prove citizenship, including that he was born in Honolulu. Case closed.

In fact, somewhere around here there's a (fake) list of Communist rules for taking over a society. Two of those indicate that you're a Commie dupe!

LMAO!

However, this is a good, if inappropriate, topic, if it will get some of you nutballs off here.

Gossip is all this 'controversy' really is.

Gee, and I thought this was a thread about a birth certificate. Seems we are being deliberately misdirected.

It is funny how when you have no answers, and no defenses, that civility gets tossed right out, and the name calling begins. Indicating the intelligence of the responder, and his level of debating skills.

Sorry, but the birthers keep tossing out complete garbage and repeatedly ignore the facts and evidence. What else can they be, except nutballs, or other terms indicating extremist fanatics? As blackmonrikker posted elsewhere:

That's usually what happens when the same question gets asked over and over and over after a reasonable answer has already been supplied.

Q: "Say, buddy, what color is the sky?

A: "Blue"

Q: "Yeh, but what's the REAL color?"

A: "Blue"

Q: "That's what Obama would have you BELIEVE. What's the REAL color?"

A: "Look up. It's BLUE."

Q: "He's paid MILLIONS to get you to believe that. But think about it: Why would he pay that much IF the sky is SUPPOSED to be Yellow? Hmmmmmmmm?"

A: "Idiot."

Q: "You must be a liberal. (Looking elsewhere) Hey, Buddy!! What color is the sky?"

If someone told you the earth was flat, and it fit your needs Twitchy, you would believe it as the Gospel truth. You are willing to believe anything that doesn't shatter your own distorted version of "true". Columbus looked beyond the "standard" answers, or you'd still be a village idiot somewhere.

Look in the mirror. You're the one who, despite all the verifiable facts, believes what they want to believe. So you're only describing yourself.

Clever, witty response. So telling of you. How do you come up with them?

Actually having a measurable IQ probably helps.

The sky is blue, not yellow, as WND would have you believe.