I agree to Idea Reform patriot Act Section 215, Think of Tommy Chong
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Reform patriot Act Section 215, Think of Tommy Chong

What is Section 215?

Section 215 allows the FBI to order any person or entity to turn over "any tangible things," so long as the FBI "specif[ies]" that the order is "for an authorized investigation . . . to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities."

Section 215 vastly expands the FBI's power to spy on ordinary people living in the United States, including United States citizens and permanent residents.

The FBI need not show probable cause, nor even reasonable grounds to believe, that the person whose records it seeks is engaged in criminal activity.

The FBI need not have any suspicion that the subject of the investigation is a foreign power or agent of a foreign power.

The FBI can investigate United States persons based in part on their exercise of First Amendment rights, and it can investigate non-United States persons based solely on their exercise of First Amendment rights.

For example, the FBI could spy on a person because they don't like the books she reads, or because they don't like the web sites she visits. They could spy on her because she wrote a letter to the editor that criticized government policy.

Those served with Section 215 orders are prohibited from disclosing the fact to anyone else. Those who are the subjects of the surveillance are never notified that their privacy has been compromised.

If the government had been keeping track of what books a person had been reading, or what web sites she had been visiting, the person would never know.

*If you think this is just about library books your wrong. The FBI regularly conducts sneak and peeks without any explanation. Another great tactic these trained federal agents use is entering a home or building and destroying everything inside, they may have a warrant specifying what they are there for but it doesn't matter, they will take or break everything but! These Agents to get to whom ever will threaten wifes, children, parents, anyone regardless to get cooperation from a person, doesn't matter what they have or have not done.

Is Section 215 Constitutional?

Normally, the government cannot effect a search without obtaining a warrant and showing probable cause to believe that the person has committed or will commit a crime.

Section 215 violates the Fourth Amendment by allowing the government to effect Fourth Amendment searches without a warrant and without showing probable cause.

The violation of the Fourth Amendment is made more egregious by the fact that Section 215 might be used to obtain information about the exercise of First Amendment rights. For example, the FBI could invoke Section 215 to require a library to produce records showing who had borrowed a particular book or to produce records showing who had visited a particular web site.

Section 215 might also be used to obtain material that implicates privacy interests other than those protected by the First Amendment. For example, the FBI could use Section 215 to obtain medical records.

The provision violates the First Amendment by prohibiting those served with Section 215 orders from disclosing that fact to others, even where there is no real need for secrecy.

The provision violates the First Amendment by effectively authorizing the FBI to investigate U.S. persons, including American citizens, based in part on their exercise of First Amendment activity, and by authorizing the FBI to investigate non-U.S. persons based solely on their exercise of First Amendment activity.

The provision violates the Fourth and Fifth Amendments by failing to require that those who are the subject of Section 215 order's be told that their privacy has been compromised.

Thank you ACLU

Submitted by quarzacc 5 years ago

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  1. Although I support this idea, I strongly believe that the Patriot Act in its entirety should be repealed and that the Constitution be reinstated.

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  2. quarzacc Idea Submitter

    I completely agree, if I could have i would have included the watch list, and broken down even more of the FBI violations within this post.

    I felt that within context its best to keep chipping away for victory's because they really are hard to get back.

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  3. I also agree that the Patriot Act in its entirety should be repealed and the Constitution reinstated.

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  4. I'm for reinstalling the constitution. :) !!!!

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  5. Give us our rights back like Jefferson did when defeating Adams.

    We are washed and educated citizens.

    Obama should reverse the Patriot Act, Military Commission Act, and the FEMA shadow government. They are dangerous and undemocratic.

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  6. Of course the Patriot Act is unconstitutional, and will never be repealed because the Power Elite used the Hegalian Principle to orchestrate its birth; they're certainly not going to cause its death after all that effort. Has anyone noticed that the Constitution has been "on the shelf" for the last few years? Incrementally, we have lost our "rights" and are on the verge of existing in an overt, tyrannical police state. See Boston Globe article:

    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/06/03/police_add_assault_rifles_across_the_state/

    Just one more cog in the wheel of oppression. Wake up Americans- Join the Committees of Safety- to protect your neighborhood-

    http://www.committeesofsafety.org/

    We can legally and systematically take our country back from the usurpers trying to steal our sovereignty, both national and personal.

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  7. And we are supposed to think of Tommy Chong why?

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