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This is part of the Discussion area of the government transparency.
You need to setup a signin but this is supposed to be a more direct line to the President's office.
http://blog.ostp.gov/2009/04/27/president-waiting-to-hear-from-you/
Let us see how transparent the government can get.
Be perpared to have to repost, the system does not work properly all of the time (sounds like government to me)
Tags: birth cirtificate citizenship
Are you simply trying to redirect them?
LOL
No, I am just trying to help them get it into the proper forum so that we can enjoy government transparency ;)
he's foreign you have to be american to be president of th eunited states.
Well post your complaint at the location provided
I am confident that the OSTP will consider you a valuable addition to their team.
Oh, but the do . . . check out my posts there that have not been flagged and archived. But they are in the "Transparency Principles" section.
In addition, I provide valuable advertising as well.
flippin boyscout
Sobi,
Have you checked out my posts?
Why are you calling me a boyscout when I was thrown out of the cub scouts and never got to that level?
My rather flippant remark about a valuable addition wasn't really aimed at you. The pronoun was too far from the subject for proper interpretation. My bad.
I'll check them out with a link. I've been there a few times, I object both to the public full name and to the limitation of topics, but it is the full name part that prevents my participation in even what shallow tunnel we can contrive into open government.
Wow, tossed out of cubs. You must have been a bad apple.
rotten to the core . . . you can make your judgement of how I am today after you read the posts.
By the way, you do not have to use your real name in the registration as I did, just make it look real. But you do have to provide an email address like here.
Okay, I looked. You are presenting your issue well, and they are permitting you to play in their playground.
I, too, know how to behave. But I won't put my name out there like that, I won't be coerced into a lie, and my issues don't fit the narrow confines of the site.
You should put a new post up with a link to your comments on the issue to show others with like minds how to approach it without being censored. You could assert that the OSTP considers the issue a valid one of transparency and offer proof.
Thank you for the compliment of my posts, I have never felt at ease with my writing skills.
That site does not have direct address to the posts like here, it is just general to the topic and you have to sift through all of the pages to find them.
You can not look up you previous posts without having to manually scroll through the posts as well.
Welcome.
You could just cut and paste. I think most people have looked at it enough to recognize it.
Be an example. :)
I am not sure which one that you are refering to, Johari's window?
Reword to your liking. I'm just making a suggestion.
Natural Born Citizen *not* off-topic on OSTP, please see from following, my uncensored post re: same as it currently exists on OSTP.
Please join me there.
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William Spencer said on June 6, 2009 at 7:44 pm:
Reply to William Haverty on June 6, 2009 at 6:30 pm:
The problem with this issue is that if o is ineligible to hold the office, he has committed voter fraud and Mr. Biden is also disqualified for succeeding due to being an accessory before the fact and aiding and abetting a criminal act. It now falls down the chain of command to the Speaker of the House Pelosi and the entire Congress who is implicated in this by allowing the confirmation of the Electoral College vote without a single objection to o’s qualification in spite of numerous appeals bring this to their attention before the Congressional vote.
Now you can see that this entire situation has ramifications beyond just o stepping down, it has created a Major Constitutional Crisis that the U.S. Government does not have a clear chain of command of elected officials to take over without another election to replace those who have become tainted by this.
In addition to these problems, add to the facts that the polarization on this issue and the discontent it would cause to remove him from office regardless of the facts of the case against him. But by no means do I condone inaction, the courts need to move on this issue as soon as possible to help minimize the damage that this has caused.
For those who object, like after the Revolutionary War, the Tories were allowed to depart in peace (I have a few Canadian cousins due to that period)
Now doesn’t that make you feel much better about government transparency?
Flag as off-topic
That is acceptable subject matter.
I would need to let it stay out there for a couple of days, the censors oops, I mean moderators are off on the weekends and will not be archiving until Monday morning.
So far that one has not been flagged, but there is an individual threatening users that even hint of the subject of flagging them all and letting the moderators sort it out. They will have problems with the Johari's window though.
And by the way, I created a PDF of the entire page containing the threat . . . oops(again)
That is such a bad website for its purpose. Has to be deliberately bad.
Frankly, the minions are ticking me off.
I can't find where the reference to Johari's window is.
You have to go to the last page of newer posts (under the count of posts or the bottom of each page) then go down about 20 posts from of the top of the page.
On the way (about 9 from the top) is the individual who is threatening to flag.
foreiegn pepooe won't respond and hahah to post to thegoverment we are the governemtn. the people acfording to the constutitoint is the government. the constitution is law.
Sobi
The posting that you quoted has recently been flagged by someone and is awaiting moderation at this time.
The real issue of that post is the Constitutional Crisis that is created by o ineligiblity and it is the first post of its type.
Let us see what happens and how Transparent this government is. Either way, if they leave it, they have transparency; if they remove it, it is transparent that they dont want transparency (an oxymoron but that is government for you).
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Worse than Watergate, Whitewatergate, or any of the other cover ups of previous administrations, is the question of whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States of America... OR, is he a FRAUD, a USURPER, a man with no legal authority to sit in the position that he now claims to hold?
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A number of apologists for Barack Obama have gone to great lengths to belittle USJF and our allies in the fight to preserve our Constitution. However, the questions that they cannot answer are:
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The citizens of this country have the right to know if Barack Obama is, indeed, eligible to serve as President! And we here at the United States Justice Foundation are going to take our lawsuit all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary, to find out the answer to this critical question.
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Barack Obama wants you to ignore what he is doing, he wants you to ignore the U.S. Constitution, he wants you to think that the parts of the Constitution that he does not agree with (like the requirements to serve as President) are unimportant.
In effect, he wants to destroy the U. S. Constitution and reshape this country into his own image of what he wants it to be.
And Barack Obama's attorneys have now taken another big step to destroy the Constitution of the United States -- this time in a California State Court. Those attorneys, working with liberal California State Attorney General Jerry Brown, convinced the Judge in our case to rule that only Members of Congress can challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, or any candidate, to serve as President.
And, the Judge further ruled that such a challenge could only be made on the 6th day of January following the meeting of the Presidential electors, at the session of Congress where the vote of the Electoral College is counted and the results announced. To use the Judge's words, this is "the exclusive means for challenges to the qualifications of President..."
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Do you believe that the Constitution is a meaningless document? Do you believe that a majority of the Members of Congress have the right to ignore it? To render it of no force and effect?
The Trial Court Judge in our case did! But we are not going to accept his decision. We are not going to accept the legal arguments made by Barack Hussein Obama's attorneys, and those by attorneys from liberal California Attorney General Jerry Brown. We are going to keep fighting this monumentally important legal battle all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary.
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST FIGHT!
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST WIN!
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WILL DECIDE WHETHER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL REMAIN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, OR WHETHER WE WILL JOIN THE DUST HEAP OF HISTORY AS JUST ANOTHER FAILED EXPERIMENT!
USJF IS IN A BATTLE THAT COULD CHANGE THE HISTORY OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY! -- but we need YOUR help to WIN!
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We MUST learn the truth about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen!
But to blunt our efforts to learn the truth, the Trial Court also blocked our subpoena for the college records of Mr. Obama! These vital records could have proven whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States, or whether he is a USURPER, a FRAUD, sitting in the oval office without any legal authority to do so!
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JUST LIKE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY THE OBAMA LEGAL TEAM, ACCORDING TO A PUBLISHED REPORT, HAS BEEN PAID OVER $800,000.00, and as much as almost $900,000.00, TO KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM SEEING HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE -- NOT THE PHONEY ONE THAT HE PUT UP ON HIS WEBSITE.
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What you do after reading this e-mail may well determine the fate of the United States of America!
Please know that we are not saying that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. The problem is we just do not know!
We do know that Barack Obama's maternal step-grandmother has proclaimed that she was present at his birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, in Africa!
We do know that a fake birth certificate was put up on Obama's website!
We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in every case filed over this issue; to make sure that no one has access to his birth certificate.
We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in our California case; to make sure that no one has access to his college records.
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HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!
The voters of the United States of America have the right to know whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen," as REQUIRED by the U. S. Constitution!
It's a question that MUST be answered!
Why? Because, if an unqualified person was elected to the Office of President of the United States, our entire form of government could be compromised!
Why?
Because, if Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States, each and every act that he takes as President will be null and void! That's right, each bill that he signs into law, every Executive Order that he issues, and each and every one of his nominations to his Cabinet and to the federal courts will have no legal effect!
I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration.
Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution provides, in pertinent part, as follows: "No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President..."
That means that neither Osama Bin Laden, nor California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, nor Obama billionaire money man George Soros can serve as President of the United States. That also means that if Barack Obama was born outside of the United States, he is not eligible to serve as President of our great country!
So where was Mr. Obama born?
He claims to have a copy of his birth certificate. That means that either he knows where he was born, or he's lying about having that document.
And only Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question of where he was born. But he has teams of attorneys, all across the country, spending, and doing, whatever it takes to make sure that no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be allowed to see the one document that can clear up this controversy
Mr. Obama has claimed that his Presidential administration will be the most transparent in history. Yet, he will not make public the one document that could end all of the questions about the legitimacy of his election as President.
And you have to ask yourself, WHY?
Is it because this is some unimportant "technicality"? No, a requirement of the U. S. Constitution is not a mere "technicality"!
Is it because "President" Obama (if he is the President of the United States) has more important issues to deal with, and can't spare the time to deal with such a trivial issue? No, what is more important than the integrity of the Office of the President?
Or, is there something more involved?
Another question that the Obamaphiles don't want to answer is why, in 2005, was a law firm with ties to Mr. Obama researching the question as to how to evade the requirements of Article II of the United States Constitution, regarding the requirements to serve as President. 2005? Three years before the Presidential campaign?
If that doesn't raise questions in your mind, then nothing will!
And then there's the statements made by representatives of the State of Hawaii!
According to Dr. Chiyome Fukino, of the State of Hawaii's Department of Health,
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Exactly what does that mean? If she can access it, why can't we? It is that very record that USJF financed lawsuits in Mississippi and in Hawaii were seeking to force into the public arena! But Obama's attorneys, and his allies in state government, stopped those efforts cold!
So, the time of decision is now!
Do we give up?
Do we just ignore this threat to our Constitution? To our very form of government?
We here at USJF say NO!
Now is not the time to give up this fight!
Now is not the time to walk away from the most important Constitutional battle in our lifetime!
Now is the time to redouble our efforts to find out the truth!
Now is the time to tell Barack Hussein Obama that the United States Constitution is far more important than his political ambition!
But we can only do this with your help! With your financial support, and with the financial support of everyone that you know!
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RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!
Will you stand with us?
Sincerely,
Gary Kreep, Executive Director
United States Justice Foundation
P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen... IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!
Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution. DON'T LET HIM DO IT!
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too funny
Wm,
Wash and repeat.
http://groups.google.com/group/open-government---uncensored?hl=en
See my profile about the uncensored newsgroup.
Join.
We can really rant on OSTP's perversion of open government there.
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