It has been said that Obama's Birth Certificate is "sealed" in Hawaii. I have done a lot of genealogy, and the only time a person's birth certificate was "sealed"(that I have seen) has been in an adoption where they don't want the adoptee to know his real parents. The certificate you get is the "new" certificate after adoption showing the parents (usually two adoptive parents) but possibly one adoptive parent and the mother who is still the natural mother. You can only unseal it by court order. If it is sealed by court order because he was adopted by Mr. Sotoro, then that would prove why Obama doesn't want anyone to see his birth certificate. It could prove he was Indonesian (through his adoptive father). There are so many scenarios to this, that Obama should just show us his birth certificate. The only reason he won't, I believe, is that it will show he is not a US citizen and probably never was a natural born citizen.
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Has Hawaii even confirmed it issued a "Certification" for him? It would appear that even the web image of that totally inadequate documentation has no paper original.
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The longer this question goes unanswered, the more of a problem it becomes. If this man is allowed to escape the constitutional requirements of an elected president, the more complicated it will become when the truth is discovered. No one who is innocent would do what he has done to avoid answering the question. The Truth will set him, or us free.
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Perhaps you could call someone in a position to know?
CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D., DIRECTOR, HAWAI'I DEPT. OF HEALTH
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444
For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
Apparently it's no more "sealed" than any other Hawaiian's original birth certificate.
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What a ridiculous position! Some unknown person states on the Internet he has "personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." PRODUCE it if it exists! Of course it doesn't exit, so it can't be produced!
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So call the Hawaii Health Department and find out. Meanwhile go to the link and see the letterhead. Never mind, why waste time going to the source? Much better to hang out here spamming the site with nonsense posts.
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Better idea than calling some unknown person in the burearcracy of Hawaii: PRODUCE THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
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I have to say this is all most amusing, watching you people make absolute fools out of yourselves.
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do the citizens of Hawaii have any other certificates other than a Certificate of Live Birth?
Yes they have Birth Certificates.
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Interesting post. It is amazing that so few can understand these simple ideas regarding the "many scenarios" and show ignorance and arrogance by adding to the obstruction when people just want and deserve truth. The problem has to do with CORRUPTION. Obama is corrupt - and sadly - so many Americans are corrupt that they do not fight for TRUTH.
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I don't think it's legal for any government agency to release personal information to the public. That's why hospitals will only give info to relatives. Why you can't find someone else's social security number. And, why you can't obtain a birth certificate for anyone, except under strict privacy standards.
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littybuster, you are so right on! Obama was adopted by Soetoro making him a muslim and citizen of Indonesia. His English/Kenyan citizenship expired when he turned 21, but not so with the Indonesian one. When they returned to Hawaii, using the original birth certificate from Kenya as proof, they obtained a "certificate of live birth" and his original was sealed. The other scenario is that as soon as he had his executive power, he sealed ALL his records, as his passports, and college funding would also prove he was not a citizen of the US, but of Indonesia. To go to school in Indonesia, a child has to be a citizen of Indonesia. Obama attended school in Indonesia, registered as a muslim, learned from the Koran, and followed the ways of the Koran and learned to pray in the language. If he isn't a Muslim citizen of Indonesia, I don't know who could qualify more. And in answer to
evreport, sources who know have been contacted. Obama's grandmother was interviewed and consistently insisted she was at his birth in Mobasa, Kenya. Then, based on her testimony, an investigator went to the hospital in Mombasa and found that Ann Dunham had given birth to a son on Aug 4, 1961, Obama's birth date. Then, checking with the Provincial Civil Registrar there, he said that indeed Ann Dunham had given birth to Barack Hussein Obama III there on that date, but that his birth in Kenya was classified TOP SECRET! There is NO RECORD of Obama being BORN in any hospital in Hawaii, only the certificate on file, the COLB. Obama says he was born in Queens Hosp while his half-sister says he was born in Kapiolani Hosp. But no record of his birth at either one. There was a birth announcement posted in the newspaper (which anybody can do) giving an address for the Obama's at a residence that turned out to be vacant, the residents having passed away, and the neighbors attesting to the fact that the Obama's had NEVER lived at that residence. If you need more FACTS, go to this document, sworn to under oath: http://www.scribd.com/doc/11317148/
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Dear Friend of the Constitution,
Update on The biggest political cover up in American history
Worse than Watergate, Whitewatergate, or any of the other cover ups of previous administrations, is the question of whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States of America... OR, is he a FRAUD, a USURPER, a man with no legal authority to sit in the position that he now claims to hold?
Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest RIGHT NOW by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON'T! Instead, he has had teams of attorneys all over the country, fighting "tooth and nail" to thwart the efforts of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF), and our allies in a number of states, to compel him to produce an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to serve as President of these United States!
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Ohio, Mississippi, Hawaii, and California! These are the states where USJF has been involved in lawsuits seeking an answer to this critical constitutional question!
And now, in California, just like in every lawsuit filed over this issue, the Obama team of attorneys, working with liberal allies in the office of California Attorney General Jerry Brown, has convinced a Sacramento County Superior Court judge to dismiss USJF's suit to force the truth to come out about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born" citizen, and, therefore, eligible to serve as President of the United States.
BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING UP! Our clients in this case, including 2008 candidate for President of the United States, Alan Keyes, have given USJF the go ahead to file an appeal of this decision!
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO -- BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP TO DO IT!
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A number of apologists for Barack Obama have gone to great lengths to belittle USJF and our allies in the fight to preserve our Constitution. However, the questions that they cannot answer are:
If Barack Hussein Obama has nothing to hide, WHY doesn't he just make his real birth certificate public? WHY has he spent a almost $900,000.00 in attorney fees, for, among other things, fighting USJF's efforts to obtain his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The more that he fights these efforts to see this document, the more that you have to wonder, WHY?
Obama supporters want everyone to believe that only "fringies," the people that they now call "birthers," in other words, only people that they claim are outside of the main stream of thinking, question whether Mr. Obama is truly eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. But the truth of the matter is that more and more people, including many federal, state, and local elected officials, AND many in the military, are questioning whether Barack Hussein Obama is, indeed, a "natural born citizen," a Constitutional requirement for him to serve as President of these United States.
The citizens of this country have the right to know if Barack Obama is, indeed, eligible to serve as President! And we here at the United States Justice Foundation are going to take our lawsuit all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary, to find out the answer to this critical question.
This fight to discover the truth will be neither easy nor inexpensive, but isn't protecting the Constitution worth it? And that is exactly what this legal battle is all about,
PROTECTING THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION!
HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
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Barack Obama wants you to ignore what he is doing, he wants you to ignore the U.S. Constitution, he wants you to think that the parts of the Constitution that he does not agree with (like the requirements to serve as President) are unimportant.
In effect, he wants to destroy the U. S. Constitution and reshape this country into his own image of what he wants it to be.
And Barack Obama's attorneys have now taken another big step to destroy the Constitution of the United States -- this time in a California State Court. Those attorneys, working with liberal California State Attorney General Jerry Brown, convinced the Judge in our case to rule that only Members of Congress can challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, or any candidate, to serve as President.
And, the Judge further ruled that such a challenge could only be made on the 6th day of January following the meeting of the Presidential electors, at the session of Congress where the vote of the Electoral College is counted and the results announced. To use the Judge's words, this is "the exclusive means for challenges to the qualifications of President..."
That means that no one, except a Member of Congress, and only on one certain day of the year following the Presidential election, can challenge the qualifications of a President-Elect! And then, the challenge can only be successful if a majority of the Members of Congress support the challenge! And that means that the politicians, not the people, are in control of who becomes President if there is an eligibility issue!
Is that what you want? Do you believe that the majority party in both Houses of Congress should be deciding who is eligible to serve as President? Do you want Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid deciding who is President?
That means that the requirements of the U. S. Constitution as to the eligibility of the man or woman who runs for President to serve as President are meaningless!
Do you believe that the Constitution is a meaningless document? Do you believe that a majority of the Members of Congress have the right to ignore it? To render it of no force and effect?
The Trial Court Judge in our case did! But we are not going to accept his decision. We are not going to accept the legal arguments made by Barack Hussein Obama's attorneys, and those by attorneys from liberal California Attorney General Jerry Brown. We are going to keep fighting this monumentally important legal battle all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary.
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST FIGHT!
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST WIN!
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WILL DECIDE WHETHER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL REMAIN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, OR WHETHER WE WILL JOIN THE DUST HEAP OF HISTORY AS JUST ANOTHER FAILED EXPERIMENT!
USJF IS IN A BATTLE THAT COULD CHANGE THE HISTORY OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY! -- but we need YOUR help to WIN!
IT'S A BATTLE TO SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
IT'S A BATTLE TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY!
HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
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We MUST learn the truth about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen!
But to blunt our efforts to learn the truth, the Trial Court also blocked our subpoena for the college records of Mr. Obama! These vital records could have proven whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States, or whether he is a USURPER, a FRAUD, sitting in the oval office without any legal authority to do so!
What is in those records? We do not know. But the Obama legal team pulled out all of the stops to block the subpoena, so we believe that there is something in those college records that bears on the critical issue of whether Barack Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States.
JUST LIKE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY THE OBAMA LEGAL TEAM, ACCORDING TO A PUBLISHED REPORT, HAS BEEN PAID OVER $800,000.00, and as much as almost $900,000.00, TO KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM SEEING HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE -- NOT THE PHONEY ONE THAT HE PUT UP ON HIS WEBSITE.
There is no doubt in my mind that this e-mail may be the one of the most important documents that you ever read!
What you do after reading this e-mail may well determine the fate of the United States of America!
Please know that we are not saying that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. The problem is we just do not know!
We do know that Barack Obama's maternal step-grandmother has proclaimed that she was present at his birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, in Africa!
We do know that a fake birth certificate was put up on Obama's website!
We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in every case filed over this issue; to make sure that no one has access to his birth certificate.
We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in our California case; to make sure that no one has access to his college records.
DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!
HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!
The voters of the United States of America have the right to know whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen," as REQUIRED by the U. S. Constitution!
It's a question that MUST be answered!
Why? Because, if an unqualified person was elected to the Office of President of the United States, our entire form of government could be compromised!
Why?
Because, if Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States, each and every act that he takes as President will be null and void! That's right, each bill that he signs into law, every Executive Order that he issues, and each and every one of his nominations to his Cabinet and to the federal courts will have no legal effect!
I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration.
Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution provides, in pertinent part, as follows: "No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President..."
That means that neither Osama Bin Laden, nor California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, nor Obama billionaire money man George Soros can serve as President of the United States. That also means that if Barack Obama was born outside of the United States, he is not eligible to serve as President of our great country!
So where was Mr. Obama born?
He claims to have a copy of his birth certificate. That means that either he knows where he was born, or he's lying about having that document.
And only Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question of where he was born. But he has teams of attorneys, all across the country, spending, and doing, whatever it takes to make sure that no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be allowed to see the one document that can clear up this controversy
Mr. Obama has claimed that his Presidential administration will be the most transparent in history. Yet, he will not make public the one document that could end all of the questions about the legitimacy of his election as President.
And you have to ask yourself, WHY?
Is it because this is some unimportant "technicality"? No, a requirement of the U. S. Constitution is not a mere "technicality"!
Is it because "President" Obama (if he is the President of the United States) has more important issues to deal with, and can't spare the time to deal with such a trivial issue? No, what is more important than the integrity of the Office of the President?
Or, is there something more involved?
Another question that the Obamaphiles don't want to answer is why, in 2005, was a law firm with ties to Mr. Obama researching the question as to how to evade the requirements of Article II of the United States Constitution, regarding the requirements to serve as President. 2005? Three years before the Presidential campaign?
If that doesn't raise questions in your mind, then nothing will!
And then there's the statements made by representatives of the State of Hawaii!
According to Dr. Chiyome Fukino, of the State of Hawaii's Department of Health,
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Exactly what does that mean? If she can access it, why can't we? It is that very record that USJF financed lawsuits in Mississippi and in Hawaii were seeking to force into the public arena! But Obama's attorneys, and his allies in state government, stopped those efforts cold!
So, the time of decision is now!
Do we give up?
Do we just ignore this threat to our Constitution? To our very form of government?
We here at USJF say NO!
Now is not the time to give up this fight!
Now is not the time to walk away from the most important Constitutional battle in our lifetime!
Now is the time to redouble our efforts to find out the truth!
Now is the time to tell Barack Hussein Obama that the United States Constitution is far more important than his political ambition!
But we can only do this with your help! With your financial support, and with the financial support of everyone that you know!
HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!
Will you stand with us?
Sincerely,
Gary Kreep, Executive Director
United States Justice Foundation
P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen... IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!
Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution. DON'T LET HIM DO IT!
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It seems there are MORE things that republicans can piss & moan about then M&M candies can make (m&m's). WOW, I have to wonder is it REALLY a constitutional issue, or just another weapon to bring America down.
I only need to look back to the previous administration, too see how a president walked all over the American constitution, and NO American was seemingly able to do ANYTHING to stop his administrastion.
YET, NOW, somebody want's to do something to President Obama. PLEASE, the people who are shouting about President Obama's BC, have LOST all credibility. WHY? Because it seems NOBODY could stop the bush administration from doing IT'S dirty deed to the American constitution, what's left foks?? Nothing but the inane shouting :(
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An ACTUAL birth certificate? No way. Anything that gets put on the Web, by it's very nature, is a copy! Anything that would be passed out would, of necessity, be a copy. How many copies should be passed out???
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I just found my birth certification and it's a certificate of live birth. Issued in Los Angeles County. I ordered it in 2006, when I was 60. First time I've had a copy of my own birth certificate. My passport has always seemed to work just fine whenever I need to prove who I was. I got my passport when I was in the military. Many people here seem to say a certificate of live birth isn't a legitimate birth certificate, so I thought I'd post this here.
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Art;
Puhleeze! How hard is it to distinguish these two words? "Certification" and "Certificate".
A "Certificate" is the real deal; a "Certification" is a brief extract, having little or no legal weight; even Hawaii doesn't accept its own "Certification", requiring instead the long-form "Certificate" for ID for program applications, etc.
Repeat after me: "A Certification is not a Certificate. A Certification is not a Certificate." Repeat numerous times. 'Kay?
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Ahhh... I just took another look at what I got. It's called a 'Certification of Vital Record' at the top and 'Certificate of Live Birth' at the bottom.
When I looked up certificate and certification in my dictionary, they seem to mean the same thing, with certification being what my dictionary called a 'derivative' of certificate. The definitions didn't mention the word extract in connection with certification. I guess that's your interpretation.
In any case, it doesn't matter to me. My passport, even though I got it without a birth certificate, has sufficed everywhere.
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The specific terminology used by the State of Hawaii is as I've described. Furthermore, Hawaii had some very special rules in place at the time, which permitted any resident to "vouch" for the birthplace and citizenship of any other. Many foreign born infants, including Obama's Indonesian-born sister, were issued "Certifications". They mean virtually nothing.
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