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COUNTY SHERRIF SAYS NO

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A county Sherrif in my state, who is an acquantence of our family was asked if he knew about the Obama BC contraversy, his response was yes. Then when asked if he could hire a deputy based on the COLB put forth by Obama he said no.

Asked why he said that a potential deputy had to be properly vetted, and his backgound investigated, and Obama's COLB was not sufficient information to secure the needed, required information. So much for the so called proof. With what he has provided to date he (Obama) doesn't qualify for a position of enough authority to write traffic tickets, let alone POTUS.

When I went to join the army they required my longform BC. When I went for my Passport they required my longform BC. I have relatives in law enforcement, they had to produce their BC at the beginning of their career. Now, here is my question. I have no problem presenting mine, my BC, law enforcement apparently has no problem producing their BC, so, what do you have to hide Obama.

Submitted by Harold Pack 3 years ago

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  1. kjheinz

    I and all of my immediate family all got our passports based on BC abstracts (short forms) containing similar or less info than the President's Certification of Live Birth. My son also passed a federal background check based on same.

    Good luck to your "Sherrif" (sic) hiring deputies, since most states now issue only the short form certificates.

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  2. Harold Pack

    6 months ago I sent for a replacement for my worm original, they sent me a long form. If what yo say is true name the states. anyone can make claims.

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  3. mrbuzzsaw

    kjheinz, total B.S.

    most states issue a form with NO info on it???

    what a total and complete load of B.S.

    a birth cert has place of birth hospital and the doctor who performed the birth on it.

    this has always been the case.

    for you to LIE proves you have no integrity.

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  4. kjheinz

    Think what you like - the certificates we have from VA (kids), NJ (me), and PA (wife), which we all used to obtain passports, do not identify the hospital or the doctor.

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  5. daz.greenwood

    what is a "BC" and a "COLB"? is this about identity and work verification or something else? thanks,

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  6. fluffany84

    For God's sakes, if your friend is a sheriff, please have him contact Dr. Orly Taitz, the attorney who has spearheaded this effort to get Obama to show his birth certificate!!! 1.949.683.5411

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  7. gapita3

    BIRTH CERTIFICATE and BAPTISMAL CERTIFICATE PLEASE. Probably can't produce either and he is neither a US citizen nor a christian.....! Why do we still not know what church he attends in Washington? Could it be a mosque?

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  8. andiwwjd

    kjheinz - I have a birth certificate from NJ and it has all the info that's missing on BO's. Nice try!

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  9. jefferson1906

    please note the birth certificates of ADOPTED children do NOT contain that information.

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  10. tnashis

    jefferson1906, are you claiming that Barry was adopted in Hawaii? Please explain.

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  11. jefferson1906

    All adopted children have Altered birth certificates.I have five nieces and a sister who were adopted.My sister was born at the same hospital as me,birthed by the same doctor.This is known because my mother was present.Her birth certificate [long form] reads altered and is missing the same information as the short form.

    If little Barry was adopted by soetoro his long form would still be invalid as an identifying document for purposes of proving natural born citizen status.

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  12. andiwwjd

    According to his grandmother, she was in the delivery room when he was born in Kenya. One of them's lying. Since BO is spending major bucks to get out of showing his long form, guess which one it is? Some of his political buddies have stated they've seen his long form. If that's true then why not just show it to everybody? He said he would be transparent but he's hiding this and his school records. Why? The longer he continues to hide the more problems he is causing for himself.

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  13. azaleahs

    Hawaii is paperless. The only birth certificate Hawaii issues is an electronic document and it is in all ways completely legal.

    Your Birth certificate is different in many states but each one is completely legal to determine citizenship and natural birth.

    Then there are those who weren't born in a hospital and had no attending Physician. How do you prove they were born? If they ever need to get a drivers License they'll probably have to present something produced by a county clerk and a notary.

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  14. jefferson1906

    Hawaii is paperless yes.BUT the long form is electronically stored not destroyed.It is even necessary to work for the state of Hawaii.The crap Obama showed wouldn't let him get employed as a janitor in the Hawaiian statehouse.

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  15. mr.q.a.magoo

    Good point. How did the Obama machine start closing all of the gates of information leaks to his past? ie the birth records sources in Hawaii, Kenya? All of the school records at Occidential, etc? Somehow he must of hit the mother lode to finance the 2008 election. And to beat out the Clinton machine? Maybe he is the annointed one???

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  16. jefferson1906

    azaleahs also paperless just means Hawaii doesn't have it on paper .All residents can pay to receive a paper copy of their long form.Cost is 26$ in Ma.

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  17. mrbuzzsaw

    once grandma opened her mouth the Kenyan government blocked all access to her and the rest of his family.

    the Fact of the matter is he is REQUIRED BY LAW to produce proof he has failed to do that. and he is being allowed to get away with it.

    the fact that he chooses to block his paperwork proves he is hiding something.

    Someone could produce a copy. i am calling on someone to come forward and do the right thing!!! Blow the Whistle!

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  18. Harold Pack

    There was an interveiw with the Kenyan Ambassador. It was on youtube for a while and maybe still is. In the interveiw he stated that they were considering making the hospital where he (Obama) was born in Mombassa an historical site, a monument. How long will we put up with the stonewallers, when everyone knows?

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  19. forbiddentruthsystemadmin

    On the adoption, wrong.I was adopted back in 57 and my adopted BC clearly states the hospital and doctor. I have an original sealed with all info and an adopted one with all info. Adopted cert., just has a different mother and father including their occupations, races etc..

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  20. tnashis

    You are talking about an anonymous birth adoption. Supposedly Barry was adopted later in life by a stepfather because of a remarriage. That would have had no affect on his birth certificate.

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  21. jefferson1906

    No i am talking about a single parents spouse adopting that spouses child.My sister was adopted even later in life [age 8]

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  22. jefferson1906

    Forbidden federal adoption law changed in the early 70s

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  23. shadowmongoose72

    You can request a copy of your long form from any state.Besides the short form indicates there is a long form.But a certification of birth is not a certificate of birth.Simple people think if it sound enough alike they must be alike.Just how stupid can you people get?Come on show you libtards are stupider than you put forth.I have faith in your ability to surpass stupid into some whole new realm of stupid.Something like as big as the friggin universe.

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  24. catlettaction

    Indisputable fact is his Mom was an American. Which makes him an American. Geez.

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  25. jefferson1906

    catlettaction being American and being eligible to be president are two different things.Being adopted into a foreign nation's citizenship [indonesia] means he would have had to take a oath to regain citizenship or he is an illegal alien.He would not have automatic citizenship in any case since his mother was too young to meet eligibility laws.Thus he would only have had his father's British citizenship had he not been adopted and become Indonesian.

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  26. kjheinz

    shadowmongoose72, you stated that "You can request a copy of your long form from any state."

    Since you've obviously researched this, please provide a cite to the specific procedure for doing so from Hawaii, in view of the fact that the relevant government official there has specifically indicated that they DON'T provide them.

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  27. mrbuzzsaw

    i would like to make a couple of points here

    azaleahs,

    are you completely brain dead?

    when Obama claims to have been born their was no such thing as electronic docs. it was all paper.

    the paper exists if it was ever issued and it needs to be produced.

    now as for kjheinz,

    what do you take us for idiots?

    how dumb are you to challenge us on the ability to obtain the documents?

    any official who claims they do not provide them is a LIAR!

    they have to provide them!

    how the hell can you provide needed information without it.

    you dolt.

    do me a favor and stop being a dumb ass.

    the guy spends MILLIONS hiding his information he has things to hide.

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

    the worst part about this is that if and when it gets out people like you will say oh it is ok for him to remain lets just ignore the constitution.

    we already know your game. most liberals already know he is not American and they simply do not care he is going to give them what they want or so they think....

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  28. mrbuzzsaw

    i would like to make a couple of points here

    azaleahs,

    are you completely brain dead?

    when Obama claims to have been born their was no such thing as electronic docs. it was all paper.

    the paper exists if it was ever issued and it needs to be produced.

    now as for kjheinz,

    what do you take us for idiots?

    how dumb are you to challenge us on the ability to obtain the documents?

    any official who claims they do not provide them is a LIAR!

    they have to provide them!

    how the hell can you provide needed information without it.

    you dolt.

    do me a favor and stop being a dumb ass.

    the guy spends MILLIONS hiding his information he has things to hide.

    here is the Direct form!

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

    what i love about this form is that it asks you to basically Verify what is on the cert!

    mothers name fathers name! place of birth

    here is the info that disputes your contention.

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

    the worst part about this is that if and when it gets out people like you will say oh it is ok for him to remain lets just ignore the constitution.

    we already know your game. most liberals already know he is not American and they simply do not care he is going to give them what they want or so they think....

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  29. Robert Laity

    According to this article,Obama has NO SECURITY CLEARANCE:

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10498

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  30. kjheinz

    >>here is the Direct form!

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

    what i love about this form is that it asks you to basically Verify what is on the cert!

    mothers name fathers name! place of birth

    here is the info that disputes your contention.

    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/vital_records.html

    Very good, we've established you can read.

    And if you read a little deeper into the underlying regulations--or just ask them in person--you'll find that if you fill out all that stuff and send in the requisite check, they'll send you a certification that looks just like the one the President's campaign and others posted online. And if you ask them for the "long form" or "vault copy", they'll tell you they don't provide those. Try it--you'll see.

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  31. photosrme

    To Harold Pack:

    Great real-world examples.

    Amazing that Mr. Obama bypassed the eligibility requirements to be POTUS as set forth by the Constitution. A position that has the person as Commander & Chief of the most powerful Military in the world. A position that gets security briefings and information that no deputy or citizen with just a passport would be allowed to see or hear.

    Wonder how many people realize it can take up to a year (interviews of past co-workers, friends, neighbors, relatives, significant others; review of finical records, search for criminal records, polygraph tests, drug testing, and filing out of forms) for a person to get a security clearance to work at a government job that is doing classified work?

    What is more amazing is that supporters of Mr. Obama could careless about the Constitution's requirements. Nor do they care about issues of handing the ability to order the use weapons of mass destruction over to a person who was never vetted, and still refuses to provide proof. [Would you buy a used car from this man?] ;)

    Granted some of his supporters do not realize Mr. Obama was never vetted by the Federal Election Commission, never vetted by the Department of Justice, never vetted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation or any other government agency. Oh well, ostrich mode - head in sand...

    Sincerely,

    Photosrme

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  32. photosrme

    To daz.greenwood:

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    what is a "BC" and a "COLB"? is this about identity and work verification or something else?

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    "BC" is a reference to "Birth Certificate" (long-form)

    "COLB" is a reference to "Certificate of Live Birth" (long-form) or a less used reference of "Certification of Live Birth" (short-form)

    At issue is that there is both a short-form and a long-form version of birth records. The confusion comes in when someone tries to pass-off the short-form of a birth record as the long-form version. The long-form has additional important information such as Parent's current/former workplace, name of Hospital, attending Physician, was the birth single, twins, multiple, and etc.

    If the person (or document) says "Certification" (note the 'cation') they are talking about the short-form.

    If the person says "Certificate" (note the "cate") they are talking about the long-form. (Or at least they are supposed to be talking about the long-form version.)

    In Mr. Obama's case he has tried to pass off a Certification of Live Birth (short-form) as a Birth Certificate (which would be the long-form). You can see on the image posted at his website it has "Certification" on the image, yet the website caption for the image says "Birth Certificate". Link: http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

    As to why the differences between the "Certificate" and "Certification" is critical, it goes beyond just the additional information. During the period of time Mr. Obama was born, Hawaii would issue a Certification of Live Birth to the parents of a child that was NOT born in Hawaii (child was of foreign birth). So long as the parents claimed their child was born inside the United States within a year of the child's birth. (There is more to this - due to his father not being Kenyan, a British Citizen, and his mother not being an American, she was born in the U.S., long-enough to pass on citizenship.)

    I hope that answers your question on the BC and COLB.

    Sincerely,

    Photosrme

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  33. forbiddentruthsystemadmin

    Thanks for that adoption info... appreciated.

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