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Tomorrow, Friday, Congress is trying to push a Cap and Trade tax through.

Why Is This Idea Important?: This idea is important because we Americans DO NOT need Congress taxing us more, which is what Cap and Trade is. Cap and Trade is a tax.

It's really a Cap and Tax. Obama and Congress is hoping none of us realize that Congress is trying to put through ANOTHER tax on us so that we can pay for Al Gore's HUGE environmental movement that Al Gore has already made millions at and is about to make more millions at.

Call your Congresspeople today and tell them you don't want this tax. The numbers are: 202 225-3121 or 202 224-3121. I've been trying to get through all day. It's been busy and Verizon has been saying the number is no good. I'm just figuring that so many people are calling at once.

Submitted by csrbev 2 years ago

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  1. mrbuzzsaw said:

    call them and once your done burn something really toxic!

    tires are good!

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  2. apugh96 said:

    I tried to post about this but my post is being moderated!

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  3. sallietoo said:

    CALL CALL CALL

    TELL THEM "NO" H.R.2454 Cap & Trade

    IT'S A BIG FAT 1200+ PAGE TAX BILL

    Do you think they will read it before they vote?

    WILL RAISE ELECTRICITY 90%

    WILL RAISE GAS 58%

    WILL RAISE NATURAL GAS 55%

    WILL RAISE AVG. FAMILY ENERGY BILL $1,241-$3500

    AMERICANS CANNOT AFFORD BO "GREEN"

    DRILL DRILL DRILL OUR OWN OIL TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCY ON FOREIGN OIL & CREATE AMERICAN JOBS

    HERE ARE THE NAME TO CALL OF BLUE DOG DEMS TAHT ARE ON THE FENCE ABOUT CAP & TRADE:

    Rep. Michael Ross (AR) 202-225-3772

    Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA) 202-225-4031

    Rep. G. Butterfield (NC) 202-225-3101

    Rep. Zack Space (OH) 202-225-6265

    Rep. Michael Doyle (PA) 202-225-2135

    Rep. Bart Gordon (TN) 202-225-4231

    Rep. Charles Gonzalez (TX) 202-225-3236

    Rep. Gene Green (TX) 202-225-1688

    Rep. James Matheson (UT) 202-225-3011

    Rep. Rick Boucher (VA) 202-225-3861

    Rep. Peter Welch (VT) 202-225-4115

    Rep. Jay Inslee (WA) 202-225-6311

    HERE ARE THE NAMES OF THE (DSA) DEMOCRAT SOCIALISTS OF AMERICAN MEMBERS IN CONGRESS WHO ARE JOINED AT THE HIP WITH DSA MEMBER PELOSI:

    House Members

    Rep. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)

    Rep. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)

    Rep. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)

    Rep. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)

    Rep. Robert Brady (PA-01)

    Rep. Corrine Brown (FL-03)

    Rep. Michael Capuano (MA-08)

    Rep. André Carson (IN-07)

    Rep. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)

    Rep. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)

    Rep. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)

    Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)

    Rep. Steve Cohen (TN-09)

    Rep. John Conyers (MI-14)

    Rep. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)

    Rep. Danny Davis (IL-07)

    Rep. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)

    Rep. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)

    Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)

    Rep. Keith Ellison (MN-05)

    Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17)

    Rep. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)

    Rep. Bob Filner (CA-51)

    Rep. Barney Frank (MA-04)

    Rep. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)

    Rep. Alan Grayson (FL-08)

    Rep. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)

    Rep. John Hall (NY-19)

    Rep. Phil Hare (IL-17)

    Rep. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)

    Rep. Michael Honda (CA-15)

    Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)

    Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)

    Rep. Hank Johnson (GA-04)

    Rep. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)

    Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)

    Rep. Barbara Lee (CA-09)

    Rep. John Lewis (GA-05)

    Rep. David Loebsack (IA-02)

    Rep. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)

    Rep. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)

    Rep. Ed Markey (MA-07)

    Rep. Jim McDermott (WA-07)

    Rep. James McGovern (MA-03)

    Rep. George Miller (CA-07)

    Rep. Gwen Moore (WI-04)

    Rep. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)

    Rep. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)

    Rep. John Olver (MA-01)

    Rep. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)

    Rep. Donald Payne (NJ-10)

    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (CA-08)

    Rep. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)

    Rep. Charles Rangel (NY-15)

    Rep. Laura Richardson (CA-37)

    Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)

    Rep. Bobby Rush (IL-01)

    Rep. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)

    Rep. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)

    Rep. José Serrano (NY-16)

    Rep. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)

    Rep. Pete Stark (CA-13)

    Rep. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)

    Rep. John Tierney (MA-06)

    Rep. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)

    Rep. Maxine Waters (CA-35)

    Rep. Mel Watt (NC-12)

    Rep. Henry Waxman (CA-30)

    Rep. Peter Welch (VT-AL)

    Rep. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

    NOTICE: WAXMAN & MARKLEY ARE BOTH DSA MEMBERS AND SPONSORS OF THE CAP & TRADE H.R. 2454 - THIS IS SOCIALIST LEGISLATION JUST LIKE SOCIALIST NATIONAL HEALTH CARE

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  4. Democracy:

    A government of the masses.

    Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of "direct" expression.

    Results in mobocracy.

    Attitude toward property is comunistic-negating property rights.

    Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate. whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences.

    Results in demagogism license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.

    Democracy is the "direct" rule of the people and has been repeatedly tried without success.

    A certain Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler, nearly two centuries ago, had this to say about Democracy: " A Democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of Government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largess out of public treasury. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that Democracy always collapses over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a Dictatorship."

    A democracy is majority rule and is destructive of liberty because there is no law to prevent the majority from trampling on individual rights. Whatever the majority says goes! A lynch mob is an example of pure democracy in action. There is only one dissenting vote, and that is cast by the person at the end of the rope.

    Republic:

    Authority is derived through the election by the people of public officials best fitted to represent them.

    Attitude toward property is respect for laws and individual rights, and a sensible economic procedure.

    Attitude toward law is the administration of justice in accord with fixed principles and established evidence, with a strict regard to consequences.

    A greater number of citizens and extent of territory may be brought within its compass.

    Avoids the dangerous extreme of either tyranny or mobocracy. Results in statesmanship, liberty, reason, justice, contentment, and progress.

    Is the "standard form" of government throughout the world.

    A republic is a form of government under a constitution which provides for the election of:

    an executive and

    a legislative body, who working together in a representative capacity, have all the power of appointment, all power of legislation all power to raise revenue and appropriate expenditures, and are required to create

    a judiciary to pass upon the justice and legality of their governmental acts and to recognize

    certain inherent individual rights.

    Take away any one or more of those four elements and you are drifting into autocracy. Add one or more to those four elements and you are drifting into democracy.

    Our Constitutional fathers, familiar with the strength and weakness of both autocracy and democracy, with fixed principles definitely in mind, defined a representative republican form of government. They "made a very marked distinction between a republic and a democracy and said repeatedly and emphatically that they had founded a republic."

    A republic is a government of law under a Constitution. The Constitution holds the government in check and prevents the majority (acting through their government) from violating the rights of the individual. Under this system of government a lynch mob is illegal. The suspected criminal cannot be denied his right to a fair trial even if a majority of the citizenry demands otherwise.

    Difference between Democracy and Republic, in brief:

    Democracy:

    a: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority.

    b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections.

    Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it be based upon deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, and impulse, without restraint or regard to consequences

    Republic

    a: a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government.

    b: a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law.

    Democracy and Republic are often taken as one of the same thing, but there is a fundamental difference. Whilst in both cases the government is elected by the people, in Democracy the majority rules according to their whims, whilst in the Republic the Government rule according to law. This law is framed in the Constitution to limit the power of Government and ensuring some rights and protection to Minorities and individuals.

    The difference between Republic and Righteous Republic is that in the Republic the Government rules according to the law set up by men, in the Righteous Republic the law is the Law of God. Only in the Righteous Republic it can truly be said "One nation under God" for it is governed under commandments of the only One True God and there is no pluralism of religions.

    Autocracy declares the divine right of kings; its authority can not be questioned; its powers are arbitrarily or unjustly administered.

    Mobocracy: 1. Political control by a mob. 2. The mass of common people as the source of political control.

    2 years ago
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  5. bopaan said:

    VOTE all incombents out 2010 and 2012. Vote in independents and 3rd parties. Maybe we will get some true belivers in our Constitution instead of lifelong politicians who's pockets are being lined everyday.

    I would Vote for anyone who propossed outlawing lobbyist and special interest in Washington. I believe if the American people were truly aware of what is happening in our Government they would Vote everyone out.

    Article economic study January

    If you knew economic growth and new job creation begin to slow when total government spending is larger than about 25 percent of the economy, and you knew total government spending in the United States is about 36 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), would you propose policies to make government larger or smaller to create more jobs and boost economic growth?

    After the stimulus and 2010 budget we are close to 40%. We will all be poorer. Read economic studies here http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9918

    2 years ago
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  6. csrbev said:

    sallie, around 2:00 a.m. California time I called each of those numbers you put up there. All of their mailboxes were full except for Butterfield's, so I left a message on his saying to vote against Cap and Trade.

    Do you think if I call around 7:30 a.m. California time they will get the messages in time?

    I try to call Barney Frank and none of his numbers have voicemail. Either does Pelosi. I hate that. I'm figuring they get so many negative messages that they do make voicemail available to them.

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  7. csrbev said:

    sallie, I've spent the past hour calling each one of the numbers you put out there. Some of them are busy. But I'm getting a chance to talk to a few aids and tell them to vote against this Cap and Trade bill.

    I'm having interesting conversations with these people. You learn a lot doing this. I just called Boxer and Feinstein also at their Washington office numbers.

    2 years ago
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  8. csrbev said:

    We have to work hard to let the public know that this is a tax being brought about by the Democrats before it gets to the Senate.

    2 years ago
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  9. sallietoo said:

    Here's the 8 traitor Republicans that voted for this Deceptive H.R. 2454 Tax Bill:

    Rep. Mack CA 202 225 5330

    Rep. Castle DE 202 225 4165

    Rep. Kirk IL 202 225 4835

    Rep. Lance NJ 202 225 5361

    Rep. Lobiondo NJ 202 225 6572

    Rep. McHugh NY 202 225 4611

    Rep. Reichart WA 202 225 7761

    Rep. Chris Smith NJ 202 225 3765

    3 out of 8 from New Jersey what does that tell?

    They have 5 days to change their vote. So we have to put just as much pressure on them as BO did to get them to sell American Taxpayers down the toilet for BO's, GE CEO Immelt & Gores "GREEN" energy.

    THIS IS A SCAM THEY HAVE BEEN FEEDING AMERICANS SINCE 1975 THE FIRST CAFE BILL THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCY ON FOREIGN OIL AND THEY HAVE BEEN ROBBING US & DESTROYING THE AUTO INDUSTRY EVERY SINCE AND WHAT HAVE WE GOTTEN OUT OF IT - NOTHING!!!

    THE BEST WAY TO REDUCE OUR DEPENDENCY ON FOREIGN OIL AND CREATE AMERICAN JOBS IS TO DRILL OUR OWN GOSH DARN OIL. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SCREAMED DRILL BABY DRILL AND PRES. BUSH LIFTED THE RESTRICTIONS ON OFF SHORE DRILLING BUT PELOSI WOULD NOT. CALIFORNIA WOULD BE THE RICHEST STINKIN STATE IN THE NATION IF THEY WOULD JUST DRILL THEIR OWN OIL.

    NO NEW TAXES ON AMERICANS THAT HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS, THEIR HOMES, THEIR 401KS, THEIR RETIREMENT, THEIR AUTO DEALERSHIP FRANCHISES. IT'S UNCONSCIONABLY TO ASK AMERICANS TO PAY MORE FOR THEIR ELECTRICITY, NATURAL GAS & GASOLINE NOW. H.R. 2454 CAP & TRADE IS THE WRONG BILL AT THE WRONG TIME. THE 8 TRAITOR REPUBLICANS BETTER CHANGE THEIR VOTES OR IT'S POLITICAL SUICIDE FOR THEM. AMERICANS WILL NOT RE ELECT THEM IN 2010. THAT'S AT PROMISE!!!!

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  10. mrbuzzsaw said:

    did this turd pass?

    2 years ago
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