Joe Biden and Obama's Birth Certificate

David Ben-Ariel

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I was hoping Vice President Biden would shed some light on Obama's Birth Certificate since Obama has kept America in the dark about it and fails to open up with the American people and be transparent with his records.

http://beyondbabylon.blogspot.com/2009/06/joe-biden-and-obamas-birth-certificate.html

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Constitutional crisis, mass deception

Idea # 4272Making Data More Accessible, joe biden, birth certificate

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blackmonrikker 8 months ago

You were HOPING?

Juzjon 8 months ago

Played right into Blackie's hand on that one David Ben-Ariel. We don't hope, we press.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

Yes, even though Soetoro/Obama is forging changes for the worse in the United States, we must hold on to hope.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

We press forward with hope. :-)

Juzjon 8 months ago

No, we keep pressing hard enough for the open truth which until now, has been surpressed. We are not going away.

Juzjon 8 months ago

Forget Joe Biden, he is living in a lost dream.

billrind5465 8 months ago

Forget about Biden he never was around a lie he didn't like. He should be in jail for all his corruption.

travisberthelot 8 months ago

This again like most of the ideas is not an idea. We need solutions not political technical stuff. Lets say he was born on the Moon does it really matter. Do you really think he would get removed on such a technical issue. We need real solutions.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

juzjon: "No, we keep pressing hard enough for the open truth which until now, has been surpressed. We are not going away. "

You're not going away? You've never been a player in the game!!! You're the Bill Murray's of the NBA, imagining that your crossover is schooling Michael Jordan when, in reality, your influence is entirely imaginary!!

If you think President Obama knows or cares about you, you are mistaken.

tsiya 8 months ago

Don't hold your breath!

travisberthelot 8 months ago

I don't think Bush, Clinton, Baby Bush, or Obama care about me. The point is that an idea requires a problem and a solution.

Problem: Obama is not a U.S. citizen.
Solution: None except maybe assasination

They won't remove him for not being a U.S. citizen until after he is out of office. So why not come up with some real ideas for those that do care?

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

Are you suggesting that assassination is a viable idea?

travisberthelot 8 months ago

It is the only solution that would be a reasonable remedy to the problem given that the government would not act within 7 years even if he turned out to be killer alien from Mars.

If assasination is the proposed solution then at least it would be an idea. i.e. a problem with a possible solution as apposed to your stated problem with no solution. I don't know how viable it would be. I think that it would probably create a backlash even worse than JFK.

So again please provide a real idea regardless of the problem or proposed solution since even a bad idea has more value than no idea at all.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

A "reasonable" remedy to a fake problem. Assassination?

mmm-hmmmmmm.

And you advocate this?

obamunism 8 months ago

Only globalist central bankers can assassinate a president. If Obama were to institute a policy of constitutional money and the resurrection of the gold standard he would be assassinated within a week. Of course Obama would never do such a thing. Who do you think he works for?

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

I don't share your views about the powers behind the throne. I don't think Obama's powers derive from anything but a mandate from the people who voted for him. Sure, a lot of things had to dovetail for a black man to become U.S. president. But that's neither here nor there. What's important now is that the country move forward. This birfer crap is garbage.

tsiya 8 months ago

This isn't a matter of race, for me anyway. I would oppose Obama's political philosophy if he were a red haired Irishman. I really get tired of the insinuations that I am a racist. It is unfair, because there is no defense, unless you know me personally. I have an African American 2nd cousin, by marriage, and a couple of others who are Jews, and my maternal grandmother was Cherokee. All kinds of people are in and out of this house, on a regular basis, as friends.
It is an unfortunate fact that when you are critical of any minority individual some people will believe that the criticism is only based on race. This prevents any honest debate or discussion. It makes me suspect that you don't really want honest debate or discussion. If you did you would cut the race card crap.
The country IS NOT moving forward, It is sliding downhill, towards serfdom. Individual worth, and individual liberties, are vanishing into thin air. We are headed toward becoming a beehive, instead of a nation of free men.
This may not trouble you, although I can't understand why, but it does trouble a considerable portion of the nation.
You will either respect us, or there will be friction. Obama does not have a mandate, and it is arrogant and foolish to think he does.
I will fight harder for my freedom than for anything else, and at this time I feel that my freedom is threatened. Your obvious arrogance doesn't give much hope for the future of the nation. You don't understand it at all!

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

tsiya: "This isn't a matter of race, for me anyway"

Tsiya, for the record, whenever someone uses this caveat, it's generally a lie. Especially if its the first thing out of your mouth. If race wasn't on your mind, you wouldn't have mentioned it. FYI, that statement is how black people pick out all the closet racists in a room.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

tsiya: "You will either respect us, or there will be friction."

I guess there will be friction, then.

goo2 8 months ago

First off a technicality means default. Plan and simple he bent the rules of play just like he did with the Crystler prefered stock holders. The man we call President is changing the rules as he goes to fit his overall vision of what he thinks the United States should be like (Europe, France, ect..). Now for those of you out there who might think that his mother was a citizen of the United States and so she should be able to pass the status at birth, but not so fast. See this might hold water if the leagel age was 18 in 1961, but it was not. The leagel age in the year 1961 is 21. It was not until the Vietnam War when the draft was implemented that the argument was made that it was unfair to draft a young man into fighting a war in which he had no vote in. On July 1, 1971 the 26th Amendment was added to the Bill of Rights. The Amendment changed the leagel voting age to 18 from 21, or you were not an adult until the age of 21. Maybe we need to rethink this one!! (Just Kidding)
If nothing is done by 2010 then a "CHANGE" could bring about some interesting events!
This President pulled the wool over quite a few eyes and I am positive the next election will show how the people feel about his change!

goo2 8 months ago

There are many Africann Americans that fell Obama is a "Disaster" to this country. There is a Rev. in South Central Los Angles, California who would disagree with blackmnorikker.

tsiya 8 months ago

blackmonrikker, for the record, you always seem to be first to mention it, at least by inference. Your reply proves my point.
Perhaps Black People spend too much time looking for excuses.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

Yes, Soetoro/Obama can and must be removed on "technical points" - as the Constitution is the bedrock of our Republic - and politicians like Joe Biden will open up when they feel the heat and see the light, so folks need to flood their offices with calls, faxes, emails and letters demanding "WHERE'S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?" And taking all to task for not properly vetting this president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, the racist indoctrinated in Jeremiah Wright's haven of hatred against the United States and people of white color for over 20 years!

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

I legally changed my name in 1989 and have the papers to prove it, as well as a public notice published in a local newspaper. I have yet to see any proof or documentation of when president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, Obama changed his name from his adopted father's name, Soetoro, especially since I've read Soetoro was legally required to list any other names he went by when he became involved in Illinois politics. It appears Obama's deception and corruption has been festering for years.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

tsiya, "blackmonrikker, for the record, you always seem to be first to mention it, at least by inference. Your reply proves my point.
Perhaps Black People spend too much time looking for excuses. "

No, tsiya, that's inaccurate. I NEVER mention race, except by way of response. I NEVER play the race card. EVER. I agree that black people have played that card too often. My references to race are ALWAYS within the context of the discussion. When I deal with obvious racists like Rooster and Jimmy.Simpson, I call them out. When I am dealing with subtle racists like you, I simply point out the thing that gave away your cover. Anytime someone prefaces a statement with "I'm not a racist, but..." it means they ARE a racist.

If you want to continue being subtle, don't bring up race at all. And you'll never have to worry about ME bringing it up, either.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

Tsiya,

Don't feel bad about being a closet racist. Most of us are. I never watched a golf match in my life before Tiger Woods started playing. I'm absolutely rabid about Venus and Serena. That's a subtle form of racism, too.

My racism doesn't cross national boundaries, though. I'm not going to root for Cameroon's soccer team against the U.S. soccer team, no matter what the racial makeup. And I'm not going to NOT support Sarah Palin just because she's white. You'll never hear me say "I'm not a racist, but isn't she real stupid?"

That's what YOU are doing.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

David Ben-Ariel: "I have yet to see any proof or documentation of when president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, Obama changed his name from his adopted father's name"

You also don't have any legal record of when Barack Obama Jr. changed his birth name to Soetoro. No court records. No newspaper ad. You just have a school record that his stepfather filled out.

Your argument is egregiously specious.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

For instance, Mr. Ben-Ariel, if you say that Soetoro's acknowledgement of B.O. Jr. is the same as adoption, this means that any foreign potentate could invalidate ANY American president.

Halafalu NG says: "I hereby adopt and acknowledge Ronald Reagan as my son!!! Welcome to the family, Ronald Ng!!!"

What effect does this have on U.S. law and/or Ronald Reagan's U.S. citizenship?

That's why your argument is specious.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

Soetoro was required by law to mention any former names for passport purposes, as well as for running for office in Illinois. The fraud and foreigner has again has proven his disdain for law. When I legally changed my name, and legally changed my passport, I proved everything like a legitimate and honest American.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

The diversionary and typical loser tactic of hatefully branding anybody who dares to disagree with the Black Liberation Theology and treacherous socialism of Soetoro is irrelevant to the fact that Soetoro has FAILED to prove he is a natural born citizen and must therefore be considered by every honest and thinking person ILLEGITIMATE, a president usurper, a fraud and foreigner, a marauder who must be brought to justice.

Hey, ho, Soetoro/Obama has got to go!

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

And you have also failed to show that a six year old ever renounced his U.S. citizenship. You have also failed to note how it's POSSIBLE for a six year old to renounce his citizenship. You've also failed to show how and when a six year old opted to change his name OR renounced his birth name. You've also failed to show how Indonesian laws trump U.S. laws.

In short, you are holding the short end of the stick.

cltucker 8 months ago

This birth certificate "controversy" is ridiculous. It was settled long ago. I have seen a copy of the certificate and checked its validity through Ancestry.com and other sources. It is simply the same howling pack of conservative Republicans who cannot stand the fact that they have been repudiated through an honest election and lost fair and square.

travisberthelot 8 months ago

ACORN

> 100% voter turn out in some voting areas

Both of these show it was not an honest election. Not that any are.

tsiya 8 months ago

cltucker, why should anyone believe you?
We know ACORN was involved in illegal practices, we will just see how deep the corruption runs.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

Despite all the obvious smokescreens, the diversionary tactics Obamatons engage in, the botton line they fear to face and dread to see made public is the FACT that Soetoro has FAILED to prove he is a natural born citizen and must therefore be considered by every honest and thinking person ILLEGITIMATE, a president usurper, a fraud and foreigner, a marauder who must be brought to justice, as well as those who aided and abetted his mass deception must be held accountable.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

How can we believe anything when Soetoro FAILS to prove he legally changed his name? FAILS to prove he is a natural born citizen? FAILS to open up and be transparent with any of his obviously incriminating records? Furthermore, Soetor was never properly vetted, unlike John McCain, which is clearly a racist double standard.

For starters, let's see proof of that name change required for passports and to play politics in Illinois.

David Ben-Ariel 8 months ago

Where's the Birth Certificate? Jews and Christian Zionists can pull the Muslim prayer rug from out under Soetoro/Obama by demanding to know, as well as demanding to see proof of a legal name change that should have been reported to the State Department for passport purposes and the State of Illinois when he started his political mass deception.

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

lalalallallalalallalallalalalaaalalalala.

Yawnnnnnnnnnn.

bopaan 8 months ago

It still makes you wonder why McCain had to be Vetted by the Democratic Congress he turned over his birth records. Obama has never been Vetted by anyone. Why didn't Congress ask for his BC when there was question about his birth?
Those questions still remain. And when you learn the amount of money he has spent to hide those records and all college records it leaves a distrust. Then he runs on transparency and has yet to be in the least transparent and his Democratic Congress have rushed through huge spending bill they never read. Worst of all is that pages were added to these bills after they were passed. Shouldn't they have to answer to their actions.

Twitchy 8 months ago

Because there isn't any real question about his birth. It's all a witch hunt, by sore losers and conspiracy wackos, fueled by lies and ignorance.

You've got no facts on your side, just wacko theories without any basis in reality.

Fact: BO has shown an official certified copy of his birth certificate, which states that he was born in Honolulu.

Fact: You're a natural-born citizen if you're born in this country.

Fact: There is no official record of BO being adopted or of his name being changed. Officially, he is, and always was, Barack Obama.

Witch hunt. Lynch mob. Lies and fraud and ignorance.

tsiya 8 months ago

Why would his grandmother in Kenya want to lie?

blackmonrikker 8 months ago

His grandmother's not lying. Phil Berg is. She never said that. NEVER. Listen to the tape.

billrind5465 8 months ago

Where is the birth certificate Sotero, Their was a copy of his birth certificate on e-bay and e-bay played the game of removing the auction. People from Kenya know he was borh their even the ambassador in an interview whic I listened to made the acknoledgment.

Twitchy 8 months ago

How do you know that was a real birth certificate?

How do you know that most Kenyans aren't as delusional on the subject as you appear to be?

How do you know that was a real ambassador?

tsiya 8 months ago

I see no reason to believe that Obama is more credible than the Kenyan Ambassador. Obama has much more to gain by lying.

Twitchy 8 months ago

How do you know that was really the Kenyan ambassador?

There's been so much outright fraud on the part of birthers that anything they say is suspect. Moreso than anything Obama has done so far.

tsiya 8 months ago

There is absolutely nothing Obama has done that doesn't make me suspect him! I expect presidents to respect the Constitution! The end DOES NOT justify the means! The lying, cheating and stealing in DC has reached new highs, and shows no sign of slacking off.

billrind5465 8 months ago

Hey stupid, that was the ambassador to Kenya, go look up his name and get pictures of him. You are an ignorant person like the liar in the white house.

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