http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/mythbusting-canadian-health-care-part-i
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/06/07-0
http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html
The first site is somewhat balanced, the second is pro and the third against the last two are both written by people have lived in both countries.
Read especially the pro and against and weigh their points against each other, because it makes it seem clear (imo) that what is wrong with the Canadian system (the long waits and the unavailability of treatments) would not happen here because in the US we have far more trained doctors. Also, for the people less liberal than I am, consider that the system we have now allows illegal immigrants to receive health care and then leave the bills to citizens. In socialized care, they wouldn't be part of that system unless they were citizens, so the situation wouldn't arise.
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The belief that the "long waits" would not happen here because we have "far more trained doctors" may not be accurate. We have more doctors and far more patients. Canada has fewer residents than California.
The risk isn't that socializing health care would instantly disrupt care, but rather that taking away incentives would lead to the long term decline in both medical practitioners (who would find other professions more attractive) and in research. Without the US health system driving medical research there could be an overall decline in medical advancement.
Lastly, although the bills would not cover illegal immigrants, there is no provision to halt their current drain on resources as hospitals would still need to care for the uninsured. Without some form of illegal immigration reform that cost remains in the health care system.
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It would seem to me that those who have the most to lose if the US goes broke should be asked to shoulder their share of the costs of creating a sound economy. If the FICA tax was extended to include ALL earned income, the resulting flow of cash into Social Security would fund both S.S. and Medicare for all of us. Why not make Medicare the primary for all and make private coverage secondary? This would immediately lower costs to businesses and individuals, and allow the "choice" which seems to be so dear to all of us. Sometimes the simplest solutions may be the best.
Dan.A