http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=2442810129&frmid=8&msgid=1026997&cmd=show
Stephen Pigeon:
"The First Amendment to the US Constitution protects the right of the citizens to peaceably assemble. It does not protect citizens who intend insurrection. The contemplation of the founders has always considered the preservation of the republic and the rule of law to be paramount - against enemies foreign and domestic.
The Insurrection Act of 1807 allows for the use of the United States armed forces within the boundaries of the US in the event of any insurrection which threatens the functioning of the constitutional republic. Posse comitatus is not applicable to open insurrection.
Anyone who intends an escalation from a peaceable protest to acts of violence needs to rethink their position on behalf of the entire contrarian movement; you will do an immeasurable disservice to the patriots in this country who are seeking to restore the constitutional republic and the rule of law by lawful and just means. ANY ACT OF VIOLENCE DESTROYS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE MOVEMENT.
Let me put it more clearly: You cannot restore the rule of law by unlawful means! Claims to common law authority and other dicta that are not found in the juris prudence of the United States are not the law - they are merely "persuasive" authority, and do not provide for unlawful activity such as the use of force.
A "citizen's arrest" is a bald use of force that may possibly be justified later in a courtroom. In the event the case cannot be made, the person making the citizen's arrest will be charged with crimes associated with the arrest, including assault, kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon, and other charges that may be applicable.
You should know that in making a citizen's arrest, the citizen to be arrested is authorized and justified in using all force necessary to combat the arrest. Where the President is concerned, you will be confronting a $7 trillion military machine against whom you stand no chance.
If your plan "D" includes violence, you need to immediately rethink your position and abandon the field. Make your voice heard - but if you can't win in the marketplace of ideas because the general population wants to move in a different direction, you have to consider either adjusting to the world they are making with objection, or make plans to live elsewhere.
The use of violence will destroy the movement that opposes Obama's presidency and will give the Feds justification to arrest many more freedoms, including shutting down all streams of contrary opinion - which includes Plains Radio.
Back off, while you still can."
Stephen Pidgeon
State: WashingtonState: Washington
Ed Hale
"Folks, I called Steve early this morning and talked to him about this. He listen to the tape and then he post the above message in the forum. Steve told me that the only way that Obama can be removed from office is by impeachment from the congress, or death or not capable of preform his duties, or end of his term. He said it makes no difference if he is proven a fraud or not. No one can arrest him as long as he is the President, eligible or not eligible. That is the only way Obama can be removed from POTUS. This stuff that is being told that obama will be out of office by July 4th is BS. It will not happen. That is what Steve told me on the phone. For godsake, don't get angry and do something stupid."
Erudion? Cowardice? Or Common Sense?
Comments (1)
Incorrect.
Our right to petition the government is protected. No one says we have to do so within someone else's view of good taste and proper discourse.
At least no one on the business end of a gun.