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And I'll go out on limb and say it will drop faster with all the BS he's pulling. Rather be out on it then under it.Anytime

You are going down Sotero, the american people are catching on to your marxist dictates. go back to school with your buddies Ayers and and your hero Saul Lawinsky. You are a COMMUNIST and you know it. you can lie to some of the people some of the time, but you can't lie to them all the time.

You are a sad story of a man, or should I say weasel.

His numbers are going down because he's not living up to his campaign promises to LIBERALS, not because of anything you idiots are doing. He promised to end the war. He hasn't. He promised gay people that he'd end 'don't ask/don't tell'. He hasn't. He waffled on the gay marriage thingy. Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow are skewering him nightly. He isn't pandering to his base. He promised change. We expected change. This isn't change. This is listening to the opinions of people who didn't vote for him and aren't ever going to vote for him: THE MINORITY.

His numbers will continue to plummet until he grows a spine and tells you right wingers to STFU.

As Free people, we should have the right to fire our leadership. In this case, no leadership. The approval rating droping like a rock for both Obama and congress. Obama will go just like carter did.

It's the fools leading by the fools....

Vote them all out, and if that doesn't work what next?

People need to get off their butts and make a stand and force this morons out!

Obama, Congress you are FIRED!!!! I don't even trust you walking my dog, let alone running this country.

billrind SaulAlinsky is dead.Only his rules for radicals lives on in the democrapic party

rejean,

forrest gump is alive. He lives on thru people like you, except you haven't had his uncanny knack for luck or hard work or dedication to your friends. You just picked up his intellect.

Wow blackmanlikker you must be omniscient to know about my luck my work ethic amnd my friends .You're still trolling for kicks.Go back to the ACORN office and do some preying.

I am omniscient. How did YOU know?

The president still enjoys a positive approval rating. Some adjustment is to be expected. He's had to do some unpopular things like bailing out the auto industry. If Obama hadn't acted and the economy collapsed his poll ratings would be much lower than they are now.

The economy is starting to turn around and when it does Obama's numbers will start to rise.

Obama's numbers are falling faster than panties at a Larry Flynt party...

creek, unemployment is up, interest rates are creeping up, oil prices are rising, home prices are still lowering and people are still not spending money (which I totally understand. I'm not either). The stock market goes up a few points for a few days and then goes down a few points for a few days.

What in that scenario is telling you that the economy is turning around? The economy is in the toilet and it will be in the toilet for about the next six years or so, whether Obama is in office or someone else.

The only thing we can hope for is to keep the Socialist agenda of Obama at bay until the economy plays itself out.

csrbev: I disagree with a couple of your premises. I think interest rates have fallen in the past couple of months. I also think the stock market is up more than a few points since Obama took over. Its up 500 since Obama was inaugurated and 2000 since its low point in March.

I believe the economy is driven by consumer behavior. Like you said, people aren't spending. But there's reason for optimism. News reports when this recession started warned of another great depression. Complete economic collapse was predicted by some. Everybody wanted to hold on to every buck they had. Few believe now that a total collapse is coming. So people can loosen up a little bit.

In fact, a recent NBC poll found 46% of Americans expect the economy to improve in the next year. So half of America can breathe a little.

I don't know for sure if this will translate into more spending but I'm betting it will. I don't expect things to go back to the credit card spending spree type demand we had not so long ago. But I do think things will improve. And improvement begets more improvement.

Some positive news comes out now and then. Everything is still way down from a year ago but some stats have improved in the last couple of months.

I also hope we don't continue this level of government intervention in the private sector. So do most Americans. I don't believe Obama likes it either, despite what Rush Limbaugh says.

Hopefully within a year the government will be out of most of the private sector prop ups it took on since the recession began. There's going to be more intervention in health care, but there isn't much of a choice. The private sector has shown for decades that it can't keep prices from rising. Even big name rich people groups like the National Chamber of Commerce want the government to step in. If Obama gets his way, the people who have private coverage can continue on with what they have, so private health insurance can survive. If Obama doesn't get his way, it will be because the big lobbies killed his proposal. That will mean no change at all.

creek,

Obama is starting to incur the wrath of his most ardent supporters. that's not good. Olbermann is skewering him nightly for reneging on campaign promises. I whince every time I hear one of his supporters detail what he said on the campaign stump and what he is saying now.

He had abundant political capital to spend, but it seems that he is allowing the Rush/Newt/Cheney troika to influence some of his decisions. He seems inordinately interested in FauX News opinions of him.

I would tell them to go take a flying look at my approval ratings, the same way they do with MSNBC. And I would take particular delight in pushing my agenda while I had the political muscle.

I've said that abortion is a non-issue to me because it doesn't affect me. Gay issues don't affect me either. Nor do immigration issues. I don't care about any of these three things. Whatever he said he was going to do about these things from the stump is what he should do. It lends credence to dumbasses like rejean and Carpenturr1 when he backs away from clear statements of policy. This spinelessness is poison to any president. He's got to stand for something or he will fall for anything.

I'm admittedly nervous. Indecision is one of the most difficult perceptions to overcome. It's better to be reckless and claim "I was right in the first place" than to be perceived as indecisive.

Honeymoons not just over...they will probably be asking for an annulment if they are smart.

Blackmonrikker:

Indecisiveness killed Kerry. I think Obama knows better.

I hope he breaks no more campaign promises. Most of the ones he's broken are ones he never should have made. Dealing with terrorists leaves nothing but hard choices. He never should have said he could close Gitmo, or things like that.

I know Saul Alinsky is dead I was being cute. But his evil spirit lives on in Sotero.

Creek,

Yeh. I was glued to the TV throughout the campaign. (I work from home). So I watched most of his speeches and McCain's speeches. I was there when he claimed regular Americans should have access to the same health care that Congress gets. No way that will happen.

But I think he's stumbled badly by ignoring his promises to the gays. They are highly visible and very loud. Rachel and Keith are big supporters of the gay movement. I believe that Obama is using the anti gay marriage vote in California to misread what the people who elected him want.

CHANGE.

I mean, who cares if he gives them marriage benefits? What's the big deal?

When and where does it stop? At what age can your boy friend or girl friend start getting these benefits...and how many times can you change your mind about who you want to share benifits with...it's not like you have to go get divorce from a BF/GF? What about the kids that come along with that? What a F'ed up can of worms this will be.

HOw many BF/GF can you have at one time? No laws about that?

Blackmonrikker:

I was very disappointed by Obama in this issue. The gays have been loyal supporters of Democratic and liberal causes, and they contribute heavily. Out of all the interest groups out there, they ask the least in return. All they want is to love each other and be treated like everybody else.

Some efforts can't be undertaken because they lose votes. But if only a few such battles are chosen, the party can survive them. Support for the gays, and opposition to anything to do with bigotry, ought to be on top of the to do list, whether popular or not.

Big Rooster:

That is a problem. Allowing gay marriage would solve it. Then everybody equally could have spouses covered but not boyfriends and girlfriends.

Blackmanlikker

If you watched the debbates ,then you saw McCain propose taxxing currently held insurance plans then you saw Oblahblah castigate that as a stupid plan with no futre ,Now you see him proposing the exact same fuorkin thing without the $5,000 rebate.JOKERS. All of you

Creepsneak

Yea might as well allow them to adopt children too,because as you know it's not a chosen lifestyle you're born that way.Or you're not.No problem .Two Gay parents will just as likely raise a straight kid. Right?

Being gay is a choice or a birth defect and should be dealt with accordingly...if it is a choice then they get no special rights...if it is a defect then we need to study them and find a cure for the malfunction.

rejean:

The child would grow up to be straight.

Creek,

I'm wholly ambivalent to gay issues, other than to say that if Obama promised them something, he ought to come thru. I feel betrayed when right wingers that I've accused of being liars point out Obama's campaign rhetoric and constrast it against what he has actually done. He's trying to play up to middle America. I would bet that most middle Americans could give a rats ass whether gay people are married or not. Elections certainly don't hinge on that topic. Elections DO hinge on honesty issues, though.

blackmonrikker: I agree with you. I can't defend Obama when he pushes his gay supporters aside.