With Obama and the democrats taking over the private sector are you ok with this? Are you ok with Obama trying to push every private company out of business with trying to get European companies to buy American companies?
Are you ok with the government telling the companies what kind of car to build and what kind of car we can drive? Are you ok with Obama telling people what they can make? Do you think this is the American way and what our founding fathers would want?
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No , I would not purchase any automobile that the government was involved in. Obama knows nothing about automobiles, fiat is a third class automobile and too tiny for an average american to fit into. I dont wish to purchase an automobile I have to crawl in and out of and that rides low on the ground. These types of automobiles are also not safe and have no room for 6 average people to travel a long distance, with comfort and have little luggage space. Americans will not purchase them, not even obama or our politicians. People like al gore and hillary will continue to use their gas gussingly automobiles and use airplanes. Dont expect americans to do, what you wont do yourself. You are above no one else in our republic.
Governments have no legal authority to own ANYTHING!
However, the goal for this Socialist Democracy (Against the Constitution Article 4 section 4), is to own all companies, (wherewith they have previously only been stock holders, unknown to the general public) including farms, ranches, energy and fuel suppliers....
Then the rest will follow.... Revelations and the BEAST.
So, If this type of government (a socialist democracy) is illegal, then how can it legally operate? IT OWNS EVERYTHING THAT CAN LEGALLY STOP IT!!!! As far as governments are concerned. But they have forgotten one thing that they do not have authority to control... YOU and I! We the People, own this country, NOT the governments!
The supreme laws of this country are the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence, for the people. And Then, the Constitution for the law makers in governments ONLY!. Governments have nor powers over anyone but the 3 branches of the governments!
However, as the governments of this country, is on a fast track to own everything, (all businesses who hire people, who can stop employment if the people do not obey the governments.....) As they already own the courts, the media, the legislative and executive branches of governments. Those in control, hold money and threats from big brother, over the heads of the 50 states, including county sheriffs to fold under its control or be black listed and ousted from office by their controlled media propaganda.
The 3 branches of government of the Socialist Democracy of the US Inc.:
The executive or now CEO of the US corp.
The Judicial or now the Security of the US corp.
The Legislative, or now the Board of Directors of the US corp.
All are illegally usurping powers that they have no legal authority to take, "if they are obeying the constitution, that is.... But they are NOT obeying that supreme law for governments. In FACT they are totally ignoring it anyway, at anytime they desire.
Has Obama surrendered his REAL birth certificate from Kenya? NO! Why has the few witnesses to his actual birth all died?
The Constitution is a law for governments! NOT for the people, as the people can not be controlled by governments. The people can only be protected by governments; and only if the people damage property or injure others, who in turn, press criminal charges against them, can the government infringe upon the rights of the people.
Short a sweet. We are taken over by the illegal activities of the US inc, and our Republic under God, with rights for the people is GONE!
So,
Yes, be very aware of total ownership of all wealth by a few select people......
David J. D'Addabbo, National Investigator for the people of the Republic of the USA.
I used to be a die hard Dodge man from way back...but now I am going to give up all of my support of Dodge and give it to Ford. I never had anything against Ford (or Gm either)but since I will never give my money to the foreign market(Toyota, Mazda, Nissan...)I now plan to go buy me a new F250 Diesel in the next few weeks.
Support America because the foreigners won't and Obama seems to hate us(a).
Being a "citizen of the world" I think I should purchase a Japanese car now. Maybe Nissan. BO will be proud of me then!
Add me to the list of those Americans with a brain who would not buy a car from GM if Obama had a gun to my head. In all of the hoopla about who was to big to fail and the unions, the American People overlooked the fact that GM lost it's market share not because of foreign competition, but because they choose to serve Obama and the Government, and the Statis and Neo-Statis Congress of years past,instead of their loyal customers. Instaed of saying no to their customers, they should have said no to the Government, and they would still be the big boy on the block today. How sad!!!
We should all support small business owners and the American market...not the socialist American market Obama is building nor the foreign market either. If we don't start to build our country from the remains of our government we will lose everything our military has fought so hard to keep.
As a Veteran Big Rooster I can feel you, but the Big Three did not support me was my issue. But small businesses and big ones have been sucked up by this Socialist Train and you may be to late. Try going to a bar to have a drink and smoke a Cigar, try eating a steak that has no transfatty acids at a restaurant,
try lighting up your own BBQ without someone telling you to put that nasty thing out becuse you are destroying the planet. May I suggest, save your money, because the Big Storm (Taxes) is headed your way. It might be even to much for a Big Rooster to handle, especially if they are getting ready to forclose on your barnyard. Peace!!
eddiekempsr, My barnyard is paid in full and armed to the teeth...in the end what would you rather have...money or weapons? I'll keep my weapons so I know I'll eat. For now we have to fight the system in a more civilized way. When that fails...all bets are off.
BigRooster, I have an acre of land. I started growing my own foods. I think it's going to real ugly in this country. I hate to say that, but I feel a lot of unhappiness with the way things are going everywhere I go. People are very upset.
I have 127 in east Texas and make mine in pinewood for the most part and have a couple of cows for tax reasons...woth all of that timber and rolling hills I have a very secure position. I have made my money working in the oil and gas industry and do as I like now.
When(not if)it gets ugly...I will be ok for a while.
Big Rooster...
Be careful about talking about your livestock. The EPA is attempting to tax you $50.00 per head for "cattle farts." You see, the methane will contribute to global warming, the ice caps will melt, the oceans will rise and Al Gore will have a big ocean liner at your expense watching you drown.
Regarding service for my Dodge Magnum.... Where do I take it now for warranty work??? To the Post Office????
Hairlip, just don't take it to the FBI!!!
right, so you're going to help push the company under and lose more American jobs. You do realize this is a loan right? That if / when the company returns that they'll pay the government back - with interest. Just like Lee Iacocoa did 30 years ago.
What is being proposed is an attack upon the people who work at Chrysler or GM and an attack on us taxpayers getting our money back.
No. Lee didn't get fired from his job and the government didn't try to give Chrysler away to the UAW as a kick back for vote either.
GM is going to wind up being a government program that will never make a profit and none of the employees will ever get fired. It's going to be a taxpayer money pit just like Amtrak is.
absolutely 100% not matter of fact i wont buy any product made by the UAW!
as far as i am concerned ford should break the union ASAP!
Big Rooster,
I am proud of you. Now that's what I am talking about. And I would bet your hard work produced all of that without one Federal Government program. I was amazed how intelligent mankind has become. The cows were here before people were and they haven't been able to destroy the earth yet. My first car when I got big was a Dodge Charger R/T, 440 Magnum. I suggest that you take that bad boy to the White House and ask for Robert Gibbs. I am sure he will be able to direct you to your government service representative.
csrbev,
Amtrak will look like a success compared to what is getting ready to happen to GM and Chrysler.
Eddie, I do have a 68 fastback Barracuda(factory 318 car) that has been with me for the last 23 or so years that has a stroked 400 to 472(3.92 crank and .030) that I would love to take to the white house and leave a HUGE carbon foot print in the driveway.
Big Rooster
Let me know when you go, I want to add to that carbon foot print. I have a 1993 GMC truck that I am in love with. I have been customizing it, and I resent Government Motors and the Obama Administration describing it as a clonker. It purrs like a Persian Cat. Well this is a sad day for me because again our Congress is robbing us of our Freedom and Liberty by passing HR1256. As the American People cheered for the abuse and punitive taxation Smokers were being subjected to, I was thinking about all the bars, restaurants, and people who will loose their jobs because of this hate. I don't smoke cigarettes, but Congress does not have the right to tell me that I can't. I don't drive a little green car, but Congress does not have the right to force me to drive one. Drill baby drill for those of us who do not want to buy those little cars and trucks from GM and allow GM to create green cars and trucks for those who want to buy them. I hope one size fits all and a Congress of Dictators will never be accepted by the American People. See you at the polls in 2010 and 2012!!!
I have owned 3 Chrylser mini vans over the past 10 to 12 years and my husband now has a Dodge Ram but neither of us will buy another Chrysler (and I love the car) or GM vehical ever again! Obama is WRONG getting involved with car companies, banks, insurance companies etc. If a business is going to fail let it fail. GM and Chrysler both failed because of consist poor management with concessions to the UAW that are disgraceful. You can't run a company with so much union demands on their back plus the damn government dictating for years cafe standards!
Our cities and states are also falling under the weight of the police, fire and teacher's union with their out of the ball park pensions and health care. How can a city pay 3 sets of police? There is a retired group A, then there is retired group B and finally the current working police department. They can't retire after 20 years and expect to collect pensions and health care for another 40 years but that is what is happening. DISGRACEFUL!!!
Any time the union or government has a hand in business you already know it will be crooked and headed for total failure.
I am glad to see that much of America is not supportive of of Obamas socialist agenda and pay backs to the UAW.
I don't know about Chrysler, but GM's management has been running the company into the ground with their arrogance and mismanagement for the last 20-30 years, at least.
But here's the vehicle Ford ought to be working on: http://www.autobloggreen.com/tag/PML-FlightLink/
640 hp, 4WD, no transmission. The only real 'drawback' is that it would be a lot more reliable than a standard truck.
anyone who knows how the government operates knows they cant do anything right.
the government is the worst.
the answer is NO i would never buy a car from either of those 2 companies again.
look at what they pulled with Amtrak they power grabbed it and never lt it go now it is a tax burden by the time the government is finished nobody will want anything to do with it.
what pisses me off the most is I pay to keep them alive and if GM makes money i see none of it. so they can die for all i care.
the sooner the better.
i have no stake in eith of them.
my tax money is already gone thanks to the commie scumbag.
Twitchy....
No doubt that GM management has been complicit with running down the Company. But, with the Union leading all of the way with Management's knowledge.
I have no doubt that the quality built into the US manufactured automobile is on par with most of the cars in the world. I bought a 2005 Dodge and haven't had a minute's problem with it. The thing is, that they could be less expensive if much of the labor burdens and legacy costs were removed or brought in line with the foreign car industry. $85,000 for a fork lift operator??? Get real..... Let the businesses ebb and flow with the market and the industry will level itself. Keep Guv'ment out of it.... just like any other industry. It is just pure B.S. that Obama and his Czar would be able to know what is best for the American "buyer." Yep, I'll buy another American built car..... as long as Obama is out of it and the Union or non-Union personnel behave and accept a "good living wage" instead of a money/benefits grab. Along, those lines, no one advocates a "cap" on wages and stifles an individuals right to succeed based on his ability. I say, let the businesses go bankrupt and if they can resurrect themselves, the Company will be better off, leaner and meaner. Who wants to buy cars that nobody wants??
Oh, I'll agree that the UAW has to share a lot of the blame. They did a lot of good at first, but not much recently. But management just made it all a lot worse, pretty much egging them on. Management should set a good example for the union and accept a "good living wage" instead of a money/benefits grab.
I'd love to keep government out of it, but some kind of bailout was politically mandatory, particularly with the Democrats running things. At least, the way it's currently structured, we have a chance to get at least some of that money back.
Based on the last decade or so, there probably should be some kind of "cap" on how large a company can get. No company should be able to get "too big to fail". That's a danger to all of us, as we can see. It magnifies the risk of any economic downturn. Unfortunately, something like that would probably have to be global in nature, and that's another danger.
Well, we do have "anti-trust" laws that apply to monopolies (e.g. ATT a couple of decades ago). But, unfortunately, it doesn't apply to car manufacturers. On the other hand, it might, if Government takes over all of the auto manufacturers in the United States......
i think the chances of any American buying a us made car controlled by the us government and unions would be for it to be affordable and not crap.
US government/union control pretty much negates that possibility .
couple that with the fact no more Hemi or corvette and i am all but done with them.
there is no wat either of these companies can build anything worth a crap now.
There's never been a monopoly in the manufacture of cars. We've always had at least 3 major domestic producers, and a multitude of foreign companies.
Oh, yeah, GM tried. But they were never up to the task.
Twitchy,
GM Tried?? To do what?? Provide the worst customer service possible, while the Main Stream Media relentlessly promoted Foreign Cars over American cars. With all due respect, it is called Marketing. The same thing they used to get Americans to elect someone that does not have a clue about what he is doing. The only thing GM did was to provide an assist "Poor Customer Service" to help make the Media's case. Saying the car companies were not a monopoly is like saying the Insurance Industry is not a monopoly. If GM had realized they were a monopoly maybe they would have seen the benefit of such a lofty position in the U.S. Economy and treated their valuable customers better. Well you own the company now, and I can't wait to see what you and your President does with it. Hummm, maybe the President will order the media to promote GM cars over Foreign cars???? Peace!!
eddie,
GM tried to be a monopoly. And, in fact, for a while they probably believed they were one. That's one reason why they got so arrogant and incompetent. They didn't think they had any real competition. Even as they started to lose market share, they were still in denial.
The MSM didn't have to promote foreign cars. GM, Ford, Chrysler and the UAW did that, with poor quality and bad attitude.
Twitchy,
So I am going to assume you work for Consumer Report, or some other National Institute that test big three automobiles for quality, etc. If you do not then I must assume that you have driven enough Big Three cars to form your opinion. I think you see my point about Marketing if none of the above is true. Now don't get the idea that I work for the UAW or the Big Three, I am just expressing my opinion. If you tell a lie along enough, you will convience a lot of folks that it is the truth. I don't have that type of expertise in quality cars, but I have a personal experience with regards to the Big Three's Customer Service that makes me come to my conclusion, but I would rather buy an American Car, made by American workers. I don't think the media put America and American worker first when they demonized the Big Three, the same way they demonize the Oil Copmpanies, and the same way they demonize any big Corporation that is not donating money to their campaign coffers. I want buy a GM or Chrysler from Obama Motors because Obama knows nothing about cars or what the American People want. This is about forcing you and me to drive what Obama and the Democrats wants us to drive, and I will not tolerate that. I think the women refer to it as,"Choice".
Government has owned major stock in most ALL major businesses for along time. Starting around 80 years ago, the accumulation of over a 100 Trillion dollars in hidden, secrete wealth, (to end up controlling all the businesses in the world, thus controlling the PEOPLE in the world...do what I say or else...) by investments that most people do not know of (See CAFR for proof) have now finally began the final phases of HOSTILE take over of the major companies.... Bail outs, Ordering private companies to do what the government wants... Think about it...The government has no power to tell GM what to do... or FORD or any company... UNLESS the government is a MAJOR stock holder on the board!!!
Secrete societies, hidden government wealth.... Too much for us to handle? NO.
We the people OWN the governments! STATE, FED, and County.... We the people have ALL Rights preserved for God has given us Freedom (By allowing us victories in WAR) in this country with a constitution that is to control governments and their actions.
No where in the constitution does it ALLOW for US Inc. STATE Inc. County Inc... or governments for profit and power.... Article 4 section 4 states quite clearly that ONLY a republic form of government is allowed LEGALLY in this nation!
So,
Why are the governments totally ignoring the constitution?
We have allready been taken over by the world bankers and this final phase of totally removing our freedoms and making us BOND servants to those bankers is about 98% completed....
Protect your families, your counties and your state by telling those illegal forms of governments to crawl back into their shells (the constitutional restrictions) and OBEY the law of the land.
Governments have no legal authority to own ANYTHING!
Governments have no rights, only the powers delegated to them by the Constitution. If it seems that our government DOES have rights, then you've figured it out; We haven't had a REPUBLIC for a long time, only a Democracy. "I pledge allegience to the flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC. . . ."
Use it or lose it? We already lost it. It can now only be restored, and I pray to God that it will be restored.
Don Wood is 100% right. Governments By and For the people. The Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights are insurance policies that are SUPREME laws of this nation, OVER ALL other LAWS! The Constitution rules the 3 branches of governments, while they rule themselves.
The 3 branches of government is to make rules and changes to themselves according to the constitutional laws. Anything more or less is not allowes by law.
Anything more = trying to control, rule, or infringe upon the rights of the people!
Your county sheriff has the ONLY authority to arrest the feds at the county line in EVERY state. This included BLM who think they are law officers, BATF, FBI, CIA, DEA, IRS who steal money in the county without perfecting the lein or garnishment or when the IRS tries to use the US treasury to arrest someone in a county... etc....
So, get busy and either support your local sheriff, or get him or her out of office ASAP and protect your homeland, starting with YOUR own County, then working out from there, to fix the rest of the nation.
Obama is just another illegal CEO of the US Inc. The ONCE Republic of the USA has been over taken by the socialist Democracy of the New World Bankers, ORDERS!!
David J. D'Addabbo, National Investigator for the people.
Dabodave, thanks for the kudos, BUT you have hit the right nail on the head. Get your Sheriff straightened out and you've got your foot in the door. The Office of Sheriff is the highest office in the land -- in your county. Places like Denver, Colorado which have the City and County of Denver, NEED a Sheriff. Someone needs to run! Make sure he knows his Constitution. God bless. You'll need it. Don Wood
The office of Sheriff IS the highest office of the land -- in your county. GET WITH IT!
The Sheriff is the highest ELECTED law officer in the NATION. All others are appointed. His jurisdiction rules over ALL police chiefs, marshals, FBI, CIA, BATF, DEA, CPS, HLS, etc.... No two jurisdictions over lap in his county. His job is to protect the people, and he/she answers ONLY to the people, though they are paid by the county government, no government official tells them what to do.
David.
Eddie,
I used to work for one of the Big 3. You could tell even then that upper management was more interested in the perqs than in advancing the company. And you can, today, buy plenty of "foreign" cars, made by American workers.
Um, guys, where does the Constitution say anything about counties, or sheriffs? Heck, some parts of the country, like Louisiana, have parishes, not counties.
Hi Twitchy,
Thanks for your note about foreign cars being made by American workers. Still the fault lies with the management, just as the fault of losing our precious Republic lies with us. We are destroyed by our lack of care and knowledge of our Constitution.
As for sheriff's you need to know firstly that State's Rights belonging to the People in those States makes the sheriff's office the highest in all the land in that state. He could lock up anyone from the President of the United States to the IRS Collector. Your question about Louisiana is understandable. Louisiana has always existed under old French, Napoleonic Law and NOT Common Law, except for their criminal statutes which are Common Law. They had to adopt the Common Law for that much of it in order to become a state in the Union of the States.
Denver, Colorado is the "City & County of Denver, Colorado" and has no sheriff either. I don't know about any other places, but any of the places that don't have a sheriff are entitled to one and should have one. Denver has made enough noise about it in the past for me to know that it's not just a novel idea. Every county is entitled, and to protect the people should have one. In Denver, the sheriff is NOT the Chief of Police as he does not enjoy the power the sheriff's office would have were they to incorporate one.
Don Wood
Don,
Dallas County has a sheriff, but he doesn't function much as LE. That's mostly handled by the Dallas PD. About all the sheriff does is serve papers and run the county jails. You might also look at NYC, where the sheriff is appointed by the mayor and works for the city Finance Department. And Connecticut has abolished sheriffs, along with county government in general.
States rights do not belong to the People, but the States.
In general, this sounds like another wacko legal theory.
Twitchy, he "doesn't function much as LE?" I don't know what an "LE" is. An acronym just suddenly thrown out, as though everyone should know what it means is not very nice. I've lived on five continents and six islands of the world, and everyone wants to use an acronym that very few others understand.
Thanks, though, for the other areas in the country where the sheriff has been deemphasized. It's just another of the battles we need to engage ourselves in to restore the Republic.
In general, I think American history might help rather than hinder all the sunshine patriots suddenly popping up who never listened to us in the past. We wouldn't be facing what is now on EVERYONE's mind.
Don Wood
LE - Law Enforcement.
Thanks, I'd never have gotten that.
We need to vote men into the Office that know what their duties and responsibilities are, just like we need veniremen on juries who know their rights and duties to try the law, the facts, and the evidence. "My people perish without knowledge."
Don Wood
Heh! It HAD to happen. Check out this Chevy logo and digg it. :-D
http://digg.com/tech_news/Govrolet_or_Chevrolet
Don Wood
Twitchy,
Just because the state or county has illegally usurped powers from the people, does not make those state or counties legally operating under the rules of the constitution.
The sheriff, is the peoples LAST line of defense. He or she is the only elected law officer that can defend the rights of the people against illegal laws. The only other choice is the people and the militias.
The Sheriffs of NYC, or Dallas, or others.... that do not protect the people are traitors to the people and are indeed bought and paid for by the new world order of government that has taken over this nation.
If you simply look up in the constitution (the laws for ALL governments, but NOT laws for the people, as the people have all rights preserved in this nation....) Article 4 section 4.... A Republican form of government is the ONLY type allowed in this country.
The states you listed (and counties) are all usurping powers form the Republic and making their own rules, laws etc.. or taking powers from the people, by making the governments socialist democracies..... Thus, they are BREAKING the LAWS of the LAND! Simple as that.
And when they (the governments) BREAK the LAWS of the LAND, they are indeed acting as organized criminals working together with the three branches of their controlled governments, to imprison millions of people that they have not the legal authority to imprison, because the illegal laws they make and enforce are NOT LEGAL LAWS....
So, to fix this problem, we must return this nation to the Republic, under God with freedom and justice for ALL! NOT for the socialist democracy we now live under RULE of....
David J. D'Addabbo.
David,
There's nothing in American law, or English common law, to support your legal theories about the role of the Sheriff. What does the Sheriff have to do with a Republican form of government?
Sherriff Joe from Maracopa county (I think I spelled it right) is standing up for our people! To a degree I am going to take sides with you on this David. It is not in the power of the state police and the city cops have never had that kind of power.
The people in the USA have all rights. The elected Sheriff (all other law officers are appointed) have NO legal powers over the elected sheriff. this order was established by the founding fathers to illiminate the powers of law makers, when they over step their authority or jurisdiction.
to have a local County law officer to protect the poeple, is the last line of defense other than WAR with the people gathering arms against the governments. READ the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, as the Constitutions have NO power NORE authority over the people what so ever. thus the 3 branches of governments have NO power over the people! They can only make rules, codes, laws for the 3 branches of governments.
The Sheriff, must stand for the people or be arrested by the people, as the people hold all powers to protect themselves (gun laws are illegal), and their properties and country....
Maracopa County AZ Joe Arpio was former DEA before he was sent to AZ to rule over the people. He has some good things going BUT he still arrests people for victimless crimes, just to make money for himself and his agency and county..... NO harm to persons or damage to property means no crime, no ticket, no fine, no arrest etc.... If Joe would protect the people from ALL illegal laws, instead of making victimless so called criminals wear pink underwear and live in tents, then I might agree with you on Joe as being a good sheriff.
But for right now, Joe has NOT proven he stands for the people, but indeed He is a revenue enforcer for the county !! And enforces illegal laws.
Montana is the only state so far, Oklahoma close runner up, and Alaska also, to have close to perfected constitutional laws (legal laws) over gun rights and the power of the sheriff.
Most all other states are part of the problem of big socialist democracy government corporations for profit! Article 4 section 4 of the USA constitution forbids those kinds of governments..... Plain as that! so why are those illegal governments taking over this country? Because the sheriffs enforce the laws upon the people in YOUR County!!!!
David.
Sorry, David. The fact that you want it to be a certain way doesn't make it that way.
While I would like to see "NO harm to persons or damage to property means no crime, no ticket, no fine, no arrest etc....", that's not the way the laws are written, and there's nothing in the Constitution to make it that way.
And, as far as I can tell, all 50 states are still technically republics.
Twitchy
Question. The info for this website says it is "closed." Do you know of another website hosted by the Governement that is similar in nature. This one was getting interesting before shutdown.
Hairlip
Fellow Americans!
Once again I will repeat the facts, as it is not as I desire the laws to be, but as the laws MUST be according to the Republic of the USA government set up by and for the protection of the people:
The constitution is for governments (3 branches) NOT THE PEOPLE.
There is nothing in the constitution stating that the governments can harass, fine, register, license, etc... the people; and that is true they can not, as it is NOT applicable to their authority or to their jurisdiction to do so. The 3 branches of government can ONLY rule over themselves but must obey the constitution in doing so!
The Declaration of Independence the Bill of Rights, clearly states that We the people have all rights given to us by our creator. To be free and do whatsoever we desire in peace or in defense of our lives our liberties and in gaining justice. Thus "ALL" (state, county, feds city) governments can not infringe upon those rights. Our creator states in Christian scriptures, that we should not kill, steal etc.... thus if we as the FREE people of the Republic of the USA damage or injure others, we are liable to God and to Country as the laws of protection of our rights come into play. All other actions, or sins by the people when not stealing or killing etc... others, are ONLY held accountable to God and NOT to governments.
If you do not harm others but harm yourself, then God will either forgive you or hold you accountable at judgment day. Governments have NO right to infringe upon God given rights to free agency and liberties.
Thus, the 50 (perhaps Montana is, and a few others are starting to obey the laws of the land) states are NOT operating under the republic forms of governments. They are corporate forms of Socialist Democracies! Look up EACH state and the FEDS who operate under the "US Inc" not the Republic! Read their Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports (CAFR) or go type in CAFR in your browser and you will be directed to someone who can help you see the Trillions of Dollars NOT shown in budgets or reports that are investments by Governments, that are NOT allowed to invest or to own private businesses, but are indeed major stock holders and now total ownerships of many businesses competing against private businesses for PROFIT!
Thus a republic form of government does not allow this to take place. Therefore no matter what the states or the feds call themselves, if they do not obey the LAWS of the LAND, (constitution of the Republic), then they are NOT a republic but indeed a socialist democracy.
When was the last time you heard ANYONE on the news or radio or newspaper call the USA a republic. They always call it a democracy! thus they blatantly are stating that they are NOT obeying Article 4 section 4 of the Constitution! Therefore are ILLEGAL forms of governments and by OUR rights as the PEOPLE, we have the authority and obligation to through out that foreign, NON LEGAL form of government.
I hope that helps you understand the brilliant cover-ups that the present forms of world governments have brainwashed the American people into thinking one way while they operate illegally another way.
When it looks like, walks like, and smells like a rat, it is most likely a rat! When it operates like a corporate socialist democracy, even calling itself a democracy, then no matter what it is trying to hide, from the people, it is what it is doing today! not what it was suppose to be doing yesterday. Therefore open your eyes and see the truth all around you, then take a stand to defend our nation.
David J. D'Addabbo Investigator for the people.