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blackmonrikker as usual your assumptions are WRONG! There is 129 thumbs up for Obama's Birth Cert. Not Acceptable In Hawaii. Take a look for yourself. AMERICAN'S WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH. OBAMA SHOULD PROVIDE THE PROOF. IF HE DOES NOT, HE IS HIDING SOMETHING FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. Both Orly (not Oily) Taitz and Phillip Berg have been threatened and received death threats for filing lawsuits to find out the TRUTH about Obama's eligibility to be President of the U.S., his TRUE birth place and citizenship. THEY ARE BOTH VERY BRAVE AMERICAN CITIZENS SEEKING THE TRUTH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THEIR PRESIDENT. There was an congressional hearing about McCain's birth place. Why can't the American have an honest hearing about Obama with the Judges dismissing and refusing to hear the dozens of cases?

Sallietoo,

I haven't made any assumptions. A few snide remarks, maybe. Assuming things is a trademark of the birfers.

BTW, Oily is nuts. Phil's not nuts, but he IS doing this for the money.

I am unhappy with your english teacher. Let me axe you a cweshun tho...can yoos fics a fruel pump on my Bruick?

Well, blackmonrikker, the truth is that when any corrupt gov oficial gets in an office where he or she has any power......They appoint other corrupt officaials to places in gov that will give them leverage or where the "appointee" will directly have power to prosecute or take power to stop the corrupt behavior.....Thats whats been happening in gov for a long time .You see communism comes in all kinds of forms....Islam is one example of a communistic "type" kind of society only, under the guise of religion.....

"Well, blackmonrikker, the truth is that when any corrupt gov oficial gets in an office where he or she has any power......They appoint other corrupt officaials to places in gov that will give them leverage or where the "appointee" will directly have power to prosecute or take power to stop the corrupt behavior"

Did you complain about it when Reagan was doing it? Then don't complain about it now.

Hi all again. Man you guys are getting pretty harsh with each other and I also sense some racism flitted about by my fellow birthers. Racism will get you nowhere. Blackmonrikker is only trying to call attention to his side of the argument and he is doing it intelligently. It seems to me that some of the birthers are indeed racist. You who are, should be ashamed of yourselves. This is the second time I have come to the defense of blackmonrikker although I vehemently disagree with his position concerning Obama.

In the BOOK OF ACTS it says that"GOD has made of ONE blood nations"

Racism is both illogical and un-scriptural.

When you try to have an intelligent conversation and start it with "BIRFERS"...how could anyone take that serious?

I have not seen any racism here either. I seen no mention of race in any of these post...so maybe you are stereotyping because of something you assumed was a racist remark? Sounds like you have the issues with race.

Santorajj,

thanks, buddy. I appreciate you weighing in. We may disagree about Obama, but if we're in a foxhole together, I got your back.

You don't have to help me out with racists, though. Believe me, I'm fully capable of going racial. But I'm not a racist, so I rarely unleash that monster.

People that attack me racially are admitting they have already lost the moral, intellectual and legal arguments. They are playing their final cards in an attempt to move me off my points.

It never works. I'm 6'3" and 250 lbs. I'm Mensan. I'm NRA. And I am black. I am most racists' full-out nightmare.

I'M NOT A BIRTHER. Santorajj & Blackmonrikker are the one that is name calling so who is the racist here? Calling Orly (Oily) and telling me I'm partisan PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I'm here to post research & the truth. You can read it, disagree with it, but lets not stoop to childish name calling OK.

Big Rooster: "I am unhappy with your english teacher. Let me axe you a cweshun tho...can yoos fics a fruel pump on my Bruick? "

Are you denying you posted this symphony in Ebonics?

No I didnt complain when Reagan did it........Probably because when I was in grade school.....I had to focus on getting my homework done,you know when it was still partially acceptable for me to learn some American history or,learn it in english!

AND I am complaining about it for many reasons one being, I still live in whats nleft of America.........

It's not Aushwitz yet comrade!!!! If you really hate living in a place where people have the right to complain so badly.....go to Jordan or, I have a better idea,,,,,visit Iran.....just tell them how much you hate the complaing American devils and.........When they welcome you up on that platform....Ya KNOW THE PUBLIC BEHEADING ONE.....Just keep telling them that they are the victims......

sallitoo, who did I call a name? "Birfer" has become a common part of the lexicon when referring to birthers. Would you rather I called you "birfoons from Birfistan"? That's what the PJ'ers are going to call you.

I called Oily Taint a nut. Are you disputing that she is? Because I can prove it.

Symphony in ebonics? I like that. Good one BLKMNKR. Sorry about the abbreviation.

And, Big Rooster, no I have no issues with race This is not about race, this is about facts and the law. I could not care less about Obamas race, be it Indonesian, half black, half white, or whatever. It is of no consequence.

So it's ok to say that only blacks("Ebonics" that you posted) can speak that way? I believe that is both racist and a direct attack on my constitutional rights as an American.

I never said anything racist...what makes you think that I am not black?

Yea really and the post is really a complaint about the birth certificate........Why do people who think it's unfair to ask for the bc think that in America we dont have the right to ask for it...1st of all .that was the last issue I had/have with this guy....I grew up in the Chicago area and I knew that when they stated who was running .I knew that this guy was going to go and put all of the org criminals in ...of course thats the 1st thing he did along with a bunch of executve orders you know killing babies and all then theres the NEW WORLD ORDER.....1ST OF ALL he (if he won the election and if he was born here to two citizens) should be concerned about American interests,,,,not what the world thinks of us or what they want us to do....Then ....theres the issue of him trying to hide not only, the bc butu, school records.....HE IS A CIVIL SERVANT,,,,,many il polititcian have NO meaniong of the meaning SERVANT....He is answerable to Americans ALL AMERICANS....If he doesnt like it step down and let sowemone else do the job.....He knew what nhe was getting into before he took the job...He didnt even get the senate position he had fair and square,,,HE LIKE MOST LEOS...will do anything that he can to manipulate to gaina and then keep power...HE IS A CRIMINAL IN MY OPINION....AHOULD GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL..AND JUST FOR THE RECORD ORLY/BERG HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SUE....

blackmonrikker, trying to belittle the others that voice their opinions on the question of Obamas BC and showing that you can't spell in the same post should get a little bit of ridicule.

To blackmonrikker, you stated who did I call a name? Birfer, birfoons or Birfistan are not names? In a previous post you assumed & called me partisan, which I am NOT. Santorijj, who I have no beef with whatsoever, came to your defense assuming I was racist and a birther, for which I am neither. So NOW can we really call attention to the other side of the argument and do so intelligently? NO NAME CALLING, OK?

Also asking gypsy_sage "Did you complain about it when Reagan was doing it? Then don't complain about it now." Is really off the topic and uncalled for. gypsy might have been in grade school for all you know. Using the rear view mirror in response to a legitimate argument is less than helpful in 2009. CAN WE STOP NAME CALLING, STOP BLAMING AND STOP LOOKING IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR OK?

Big Rooster: "I never said anything racist...what makes you think that I am not black? "

Somehow, I doubt that you are! You wouldn't have gone Ebonic if I hadn't mentioned that I'm black.

sallietoo: "Also asking gypsy_sage "Did you complain about it when Reagan was doing it? Then don't complain about it now." Is really off the topic and uncalled for"

Politics is partisanship. It always has been. Don't complain when Obama rewards his people. You really can't do anything about it.

Also, Sallie, I never called you a partisan. I usually keep track of all the big words I use in a given week. "Partisan" isn't on this week's list, with the exception as it was used in the prior paragraph.

And again, 'birfer' has become a part of the common lexicon. I'm allowed to use it.

gypsy_sage: "Why do people who think it's unfair to ask for the bc think that in America we dont have the right to ask for it"

Why do people who ask for a BC that's already been presented think it's unfair for people to laugh at them?

Yea Blackmon its one thing to express your opinion but when you get personal or hateful people think you need another drink....or something........BUT its ok...........I forgive you...Even if you dont know that all Americans have the right to force their gov officials to answer to them...& these people are trying to do it peacefully....Maybe you should think about what will happen toall of us even your family and friends if Islam or these guys start acting out the way other oppressive governments do....You might be glad soemone raised a fuss later on.... Thanx sallytoo...

Oh and th BC has not been presented...Acertifiction of birth was put on line and that only proves he was born period....

Gypsy_sage: "Oh and th BC has not been presented...Acertifiction of birth was put on line and that only proves he was born period.... "

You know what? You're right. Any digital image posted online is not a legal document.

But then again, the LAW says the only persons that have standing to demand to see his BC are the people who might have been HARMED by losing the election to an ineligible candidate. Gypsy, you and the other birfers can stand on the corner and shout about the BC until you are hoarse. Unless you were a candidate in the 2008 election, you don't have a legal leg to stand on.

I think people who file frivolous lawsuits ought to be fined.

blackmonrikker, my post came well ahead of your proclaiming to be a 6'3" black man...

I've posted who I was in other threads. Stop trying to crawl out from under your post. I'd respect you more if you just claimed your racist attempt at humor.

I thought it was fairly good. I know people who talk like that and I mock them, too.

I don't care what color you are and have not posted what color I am...you (ass)umed that I have read your other post and that anyone really cares that you are of any color at all.

I just think that it is funny how you try to have a serious conversation using ebonics (or what ever you want to call it) as a way of proving your point.

What would be so wrong with using a dictionary or at least spell check before posting? Maybe you just don't want to let whitey keep you down? I don't know...but it is funny that you feel the need to be seen as somebody without an education.

"it is funny that you feel the need to be seen as somebody without an education. "

"There is no greater natural advantage in life than to be under-estimated by one's enemies..."

Who would that be...whitey?

Well, Rooster, that's not the interesting question here. Who am I quoting? What's the full quotation? Run along now and Google it, Clucker.

Did you just call me a chicken head on the DL bro?

Yep. But I didn't think you'd notice.

I did cause I'm black ya'll',I'm black ya'll', I'm blackity blackity black black ya'll...

I voted against your post, but not against Berg or Tate.

I'm appreciative of anyone who brings attention to the failure of our courts and congress to adequately check the President's credentials.

Well Blackmon, Just because you blindly except the bogus COLB that Obonga put out doesn't mean the rest of us are that gulible. The fact that BHO jr's father's race is listed as 'African' should be enough to show it's totally false. In 1961, the black race was listed on B/Certs as "Negro" or "Colored". "African" is not a race, anymore than "Canadian" is a race. Additionally, why have no hospital employees come forward to confirm their assistance in his alleged Hawaiian birth to silence all us TRUTHERS? If Obonga's minons told you the sun rises in the east, you'd drink that kool-aid too. Why is the illegitimate president spending millions to hide his origins, when all he'd have to do is show us a legal birth certificate? A lot of children have to provide their BC to play little league baseball. Is the person occupying the most powerful position in the world, not to be held accountable to the American people?

A post in the Hawaii paper said that the lady who shared the hospital room with Obama's mother has come forward and records confirm her story. There were newspaper birth announcements for both ladies days after the birth. I believe nurses and others came forward too. The post says lots of people remember the Obamas and that all the Hawaiians know he was born there and think bithers are crazy.

"why have no hospital employees come forward to confirm their assistance in his alleged Hawaiian birth to silence all us TRUTHERS?"

TRUTHERS? Phil Berg sued President Bush for causing 9/11. He had a bunch of followers then, too. He called them TRUTHERS.

Ah, well. People who drive the short bus have to have passengers, too, I guess.

Oh, Creeksneaker, so, "the Hawaii paper said" snargffth! Like there isn't more than one newspaper. Don't you think, or don't you KNOW, that if Stanley's room mate had "come forward" and could "confirm" the hoax, along with the other staffers you allege, was true, it would already have been all over EVERY Obonga enabling news channel, with guest appearences, and interviews non-stop, with Oprah even. Even if the myth you are swallowing is true, until we see a real B/C, that's verified by someone other than a fascist liberal, or, until it's no longer a free country, the TRUTHERS will not stop. Who cares if Berg sued Bush? I'd like to sue him as well. Berg began trying to sink the Closeted Black Panther Muslim in order to help Billary. It's not my fault that we want the truth for different reasons.

What ev. You're still a short bus passenger.

I've been posting at a far left message board for years. There are hardened socialists and communists and Green Party members who may not be socialist but are very far left.

All of those people hate Obama. They hate him more than the birthers do. But instead of believing Obama is part of a communist plot, they believe Obama is part of a corporatist plot.

Communists are so extreme that they are unable to find anything in common with Obama. They would not be part of a plot to put him in office.

Johndot: I don't know who "Stanley" is. I can tell you why the corporate media hasn't covered proof of Obama's citizenship. Almost the entire reason is that this is a fringe kook issue and the rest of the world believes that only crazy people don't believe Obama was born here. So why would they make a big deal about evidence that say what everybody but a few knows is true?

The press was pretty tough on Obama up until the point when John McCain, their pet, became unbearably dishonest and ignorant. (like when he blamed Obama for high gas prices) Obama has had a nice honeymoon but they still snipe at him and would love to get a big story on him if they could.

To: blackmonrikker?

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"BIRFERS!! Are you happy with Oily Taint's and Phil Berg's Performance So far?"

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"A few snide remarks, maybe. Assuming things is a trademark of the birfers."

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Sheepeoples!!

Are you happy with your Messiah's performance so far?

Does that Kool-Aid you swilled down, taste as good coming back up?

Still trying to keep from barfing after getting a good taste of BO and BoBo?

Baah once for yes. Baah twice for no. ;)

Pointedly back@U

Photosrme

Hey creeksneekers2 you said, "Communists are so extreme that they are unable to find anything in common with Obama. They would not be part of a plot to put him in office." The DSA is a huge part of the plot, there are over 80 of them in Congress. They deceptively ran on the Democratic ticket but they really are SOCIALIST! Here is there mission statement "What are Democratic Socialist" http://www.ydsusa.org/whatisds.html It's so crystal clear to what exactly is happening in our government it's SCARY!! The Democratic Socialist are Marx lovers, I got news for them, THIS ISN'T RUSSIA!!

- THIS IS NOT ABOUT BLACK OR WHITE

- THIS IS NOT ABOUT RICH OR POOR

- THIS IS NOT ABOUT MAJORITY OR MINORITY

- THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN

- THIS IS ABOUT DEMOCRAT SOCIALISM VS FREE REPUBLIC OF THE U.S.A.

WARS WERE FOUGHT, BLOOD WAS SPILLED. MILLIONS OF AMERICANS LOST THEIR LIVES TO LIVE IN THE FREE REPUBLIC OF THE UNITES STATES OF AMERICA. I KNOW THAT THOSE THAT WANT THE U.S.A. TO STAY A FREE REPUBLIC OUT NUMBER THE SOCIALIST IN THIS COUNTY MORE THAN 100 TO 1 REMEMBER THE MCCARTHY RED SCARE - I DIDN'T AGREE WITH IT THEN BUT I AGREE WITH IT NOW - I SAY WE CALL THEM OUT & BLACKLIST THEM. ALL THE DSA MEMBERS IN CONGRESS, THE WHITE HOUSE AND ADMINISTRATION. THIS IS WHAT THEIR WARPED MINDS BELIEVE AND THE IDEOLOGY WE ARE FIGHT AGAINST http://www.ydsusa.org/whatisdl.html READ CAREFULLY, SOME SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE AND IT IS AND SOME IS JUST PLAIN FRIGHTENING!!

http://community.marketwatch.com/groups/us-politics/topics/70-congress-members-democratic-socialists

Q: How many members of the U.S. Congress are also members of the DSA?

A: 83+

Q: How many of the DSA members sit on the Judiciary Committee?

A: Eleven: John Conyers [Chairman of the Judiciary Committee], Tammy Baldwin, Jerrold Nadler, Luis Gutierrez, Melvin Watt, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, Steve Cohen, Barbara Lee, Robert Wexler, Linda Sanchez [there are 23 Democrats on the Judiciary Committee of which eleven, almost half, are now members of the DSA].

Q: Who are these members of Congress?

A: See the listing below

Co-Chairs

Hon. Raúl M. Grijalva (AZ-07)

Hon. Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)

Vice Chairs

Hon. Diane Watson (CA-33)

Hon. Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)

Hon. Mazie Hirono (HI-02)

Hon. Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)

Senate Members

Hon. Bernie Sanders (VT)

House Members

Hon. Neil Abercrombie (HI-01)

Hon. Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)

Hon. Xavier Becerra (CA-31)

Hon. Madeleine Bordallo (GU-AL)

Hon. Robert Brady (PA-01)

Hon. Corrine Brown (FL-03)

Hon. Michael Capuano (MA-08)

Rep. Sherrod Brown (OH)

Hon. André Carson (IN-07)

Hon. Donna Christensen (VI-AL)

Hon. Yvette Clarke (NY-11)

Hon. William “Lacy” Clay (MO-01)

Hon. Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)

Hon. Steve Cohen (TN-09)

Hon. John Conyers (MI-14)

Hon. Elijah Cummings (MD-07)

Hon. Danny Davis (IL-07)

Hon. Peter DeFazio (OR-04)

Rep. Diane DeGette (CO)

Hon. Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)

Rep. Donna F. Edwards (MD-04)

Hon. Keith Ellison (MN-05)

Hon. Sam Farr (CA-17) Rep.

Eni Faleomavaega AL

Hon. Chaka Fattah (PA-02)

Hon. Bob Filner (CA-51)

Hon. Barney Frank (MA-04)

Hon. Marcia L. Fudge (OH-11)

Hon. Alan Grayson (FL-08)

Hon. Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)

Hon. John Hall (NY-19) Rep.

Alcee Hastings (FL)

Hon. Phil Hare (IL-17)

Hon. Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)

Hon. Michael Honda (CA-15)

Hon. Jesse Jackson, Jr. (IL-02)

Hon. Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)

Hon. Hank Johnson (GA-04)

Hon. Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)

Hon. Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (OH)

Hon. Barbara Lee (CA-09)

Hon. John Lewis (GA-05)

Hon. David Loebsack (IA-02)

Hon. Ben R. Lujan (NM-3)

Hon. Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)

Hon. Ed Markey (MA-07) Rep.

Jim McGovern (MA)

Hon. Jim McDermott (WA-07)

Rep. Cynthia McKinney (GA)

Hon. James McGovern (MA-03)

Hon. George Miller (CA-07)

Hon. Gwen Moore (WI-04)

Hon. Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)

Rep. Eleanore Norton (AL)

Hon. Eleanor Holmes-Norton (DC-AL)

Hon. John Oliver (MA-01)

Hon. Ed Pastor (AZ-04)

Hon. Donald Payne (NJ-10)

Hon. Chellie Pingree (ME-01)

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (CA)

Hon. Charles Rangel (NY-15)

Hon. Laura Richardson (CA-37)

Hon. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)

Hon. Bobby Rush (IL-01)

Hon. Linda Sánchez (CA-47)

Rep. Bernard Sanders (VT)

Hon. Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)

Rep. Robert Scott (VA)

Hon. José Serrano (NY-16)

Hon. Louise Slaughter (NY-28)

Hon. Pete Stark (CA-13)

Hon. Bennie Thompson (MS-02)

Hon. John Tierney (MA-06)

Hon. Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)

Hon. Maxine Waters (CA-35)

Hon. Mel Watt (NC-12)

Hon. Henry Waxman (CA-30)

Hon. Peter Welch (VT-AL)

Hon. Robert Wexler (FL-19)

Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA)

Source: Congressional Progressive Caucus

Quit spamming me you stupid nigger. I am reporting your e-mail address to this site. Unlike you, I have a job and I can't respond to your hundreds of e-mails. Either I am paying you to live on welfare, or you work for ACORN with all the time you spend on here. Get a life and quit spamming me, and call Larry Sinclair for some tips on how to suck Obama's cockadoodledo homey.

jimmysimpson55: "Either I am paying you to live on welfare..."

You ARE paying me to live on welfare, and for all my watermelons, and my Patron. And I want a raise. Beyatch.

i say: if your taint's oily-- wash it!!! buddy

To blackmonrikker:

We have our differences on the B.C. issue, but I do not condone the racist remark that was used in this "Idea" topic. I am not sure who it was aimed at, but I believe it was based upon a few previous remarks by people.

Regardless of who it was aimed at, I have reported it for Abuse.

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Photosrme

photosrme,

Why report him? There's a thousand others just like jimmy.simpson55 in the birfer movement. And five thousand others with the same sentiments, but not the balls to give voice to their racism.

I didn't report him. I didn't care. Usually when people get down to using the N word it's an admission of defeat. I took it for what it was--a surrender.

sallietoo:

When they talk about democratic socialism they aren't talking about the Democratic Party. When they say democratic they mean they believe in democracy.

I don't believe all those people on the list are socialists. Some conservatives define socialism as any government that engages in any wealth redistribution. So to them, all those people might be socialist.

I call it socialism when they want the government to own the means of production, when they want to destroy corporations, and they hold radical beliefs about redistribution, like full equality of results, rather than equality of opportunity.

I don't believe there are that great of differences between Americans on aid to the less fortunate. Both sides seem to agree that if someone is totally incapable of taking care of themselves, like an invalid, that person should get help. Neither side likes to see able bodied people freeloading on the system. Our only differences are over who falls into which category and how much they should pay or receive.

Angels stand upon the sidelines, baffled and confused, God gave them freewill and reason, and look at what they chose--- monkey killing monkey killing monkey.

Not true the constitution says you have to be a naturalized citizen....What do you there is no legal leg to stand on???If you area an arrogant #$%#@@ (like many members both republican and democrat)politician who thinks that you can do what you want without being answerable to the people you are supposed to be working for ..Then maybe thats where youd get that idea....The so called " birfers" have a leagal leg to stand on and even if he is not a nuralized citizen he has committed many acts of treason against us already....wake up .when we lose we will all lose..they only need you guys right now ..Once they get rid of the people that oppose them.....YOU are going to be left to fend for yourself Oter countries are waiting for and upset to take us....They dont care (like these twisted people that have overthrown out gov) about human rights.LOOK AT WACO....THAT WAS A TEST .IF THAT GUY AND ALL THE women and kids had done anything wrong they should have arrested him...(he went jogging everyday..... They could have arresed him) Anyway there is most definately a lagal leg to stand on and the only reasdon this is not settled yet is because of the liberal legal cronies that give a ^%$#@@#@# aboput our constitution that are prtocting him....If you ever read the bible....The part about prophecy....you should now.You'd be surprised at what you'd find if you look...

When you get a chance read the judges ruling. Is this what you want for America. Just for starter that is.

Trouble Brewing for AIG and Federal Government; Challenge of AIG Bailout Allowed to Proceed

May 27, 2009

http://www.thomasmore.org/qry/page.taf?id=19

ANN ARBOR, MI – Proclaiming that times of crisis do not justify departure from the Constitution, Federal District Court Judge Lawrence P. Zatkoff allowed the lawsuit against Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and the Federal Reserve Board challenging the AIG bailout to proceed. The lawsuit was filed last December by the Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and attorney David Yerushalmi, an expert in security transactions and Shariah-compliant financing.

In his well-written and detailed analysis issued yesterday, Judge Zatkoff denied the request by the Obama administration’s Department of Justice to dismiss the lawsuit. The request was filed on behalf of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and the Federal Reserve Board – the named defendants in the case. In his ruling, the judge held that the lawsuit sufficiently alleged a federal constitutional challenge to the use of taxpayer money to fund AIG’s Islamic religious activities.

Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center, commented, “It is outrageous that AIG has been using taxpayer money to promote Islam and Shariah law, which potentially provides support for terrorist activities aimed at killing Americans. Shariah law is the same law championed by Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. It is the same law that prompted the 9/11 terrorist attacks on our soil that killed thousands of innocent Americans. We won this skirmish. But the war to stop the federal government from funding Islam and Shariah-compliant financing is far from over.”

In its request to dismiss the lawsuit, the DOJ argued that the plaintiff in the case, Kevin Murray, who is a former Marine and a federal taxpayer, lacked standing to bring the action. And even if he did have standing, DOJ argued that the use of the bailout money to fund AIG’s operations did not violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The court disagreed, noting, in relevant part, the following:

In this case, the fact that AIG is largely a secular entity is not dispositive: The question in an as-applied challenge is not whether the entity is of a religious character, but how it spends its grant. The circumstances of this case are historic, and the pressure upon the government to navigate this financial crisis is unfathomable. Times of crisis, however, do not justify departure from the Constitution. In this case, the United States government has a majority interest in AIG. AIG utilizes consolidated financing whereby all funds flow through a single port to support all of its activities, including Sharia-compliant financing. Pursuant to the EESA, the government has injected AIG with tens of billions of dollars, without restricting or tracking how this considerable sum of money is spent. At least two of AIG’s subsidiary companies practice Sharia-compliant financing, one of which was unveiled after the influx of government cash. After using the $40 billion from the government to pay down the $85 billion credit facility, the credit facility retained $60 billion in available credit, suggesting that AIG did not use all $40 billion consistent with its press release. Finally, after the government acquired a majority interest in AIG and contributed substantial funds to AIG for operational purposes, the government co-sponsored a forum entitled “Islamic Finance 101.” These facts, taken together, raise a question of whether the government’s involvement with AIG has created the effect of promoting religion and sufficiently raise Plaintiff’s claim beyond the speculative level, warranting dismissal inappropriate at this stage in the proceedings.

Click here to read Judge Zatkoff’s entire ruling.

The lawsuit, which was filed in December of last year in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, is a constitutional challenge to that portion of the “Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008” (EESA) that appropriated $40 billion in taxpayer money to fund and financially support the federal government’s majority ownership interest in AIG, which engages in Shariah-based Islamic religious activities that are anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Jewish.

According to the lawsuit, “The use of these taxpayer funds to approve, promote, endorse, support, and fund these Shariah-based Islamic religious activities violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.”

The lawsuit was brought on behalf of Murray, a former Marine who served honorably in harm’s way in Iraq to defend our country against Islamic terrorists. Murray objects to being forced as a taxpayer to contribute to the propagation of Islamic beliefs and practices predicated upon Shariah law, which is hostile to his Christian religion. He is being represented by Thomas More Law Center Trial Counsel Robert Muise and by David Yerushalmi, an associated attorney who is an expert in Shariah law and Shariah-compliant financing, as well as general counsel to the Center for Security Policy.

According to the lawsuit, through the use of taxpayer funds, the federal government acquired a majority ownership interest (nearly 80%) in AIG, and as part of the bailout, Congress appropriated and expended an additional $40 billion of taxpayer money to fund and financially support AIG and its financial activities. AIG, which is now a government owned company, engages in Shariah-compliant financing which subjects certain financial activities, including investments, to the dictates of Islamic law and the Islamic religion. This specifically includes any profits or interest obtained through such financial activities. AIG itself describes “Sharia” as “Islamic law based on the Quran and the teachings of the Prophet [Mohammed].”

With the aid of taxpayer funds provided by Congress, AIG employs a “Shariah Supervisory Committee,” which is comprised of the following members: Sheikh Nizam Yaquby from Bahrain, Dr. Mohammed Ali Elgari from Saudi Arabia, and Dr. Muhammed Imran Ashraf Usmani from Pakistan. Dr. Usmani is the son, student, and dedicated disciple of Mufti Taqi Usmani, who is the leading Shariah authority for Shariah-compliant finance in the world and the author of a book translated into English in 1999 that includes an entire chapter dedicated to explaining why a Western Muslim must engage in violent jihad against his own country or government. According to AIG, the role of its Shariah authority “is to review our operations, supervise its development of Islamic products, and determine Shariah compliance of these products and our investments.”

An important element of Shariah-compliant financing is a form of obligatory charitable contribution called zakat, which is a religious tax for assisting those that “struggle [jihad] for Allah.” The amount of this tax is between 2.5% and 20%, depending upon the source of the wealth. The zakat religious tax is used to financially support Islamic “charities,” some of which have ties to terrorist organizations that are hostile to the United States and all other “infidels,” which includes Christians and Jews.

The Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, an example of an Islamic “charity” that qualifies for receipt of the zakat, was recently convicted by a federal jury for providing millions of dollars to Islamic terrorist organizations. As a direct consequence of the taxpayer funds appropriated and expended to purchase and financially support AIG, the federal government is now the owner of a corporation engaged in the business of collecting religious taxes to fund interests adverse to the United States, Christians, Jews, and all other “infidels” under Islamic law.

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