I grew up with a Green Card. I have nothing against LEGAL immigrants. I do have something against people who think that the immigration rules do not apply to them. It makes the rest pay for their misbehavior.
However, locking up and deporting illegal aliens has been, and continues to be, ineffective, because desperate migrants have little to lose, and even if we dissuade that individual, there are many many more where he or she came from.
The Coyotes who bring illegals into the U.S. only do so because there is demand. They do not generally force people to come here. They only facilitate what the migrant wants to do already. The trick is to reduce the appeal of coming here while breaking the rules.
Most illegal immigrants want to come here for one thing - money. If the jobs were not here for illegals, they would not come.
The people who hire illegals - the restaurant owners, the rich people who want maids and childcare, the HUGE agricultural businesses, do indeed have a lot to lose. If being caught knowingly hiring an illegal caused them to go bankrupt, to lose all of their property, they would stop hiring them. We would not even need to put the responsible parties in jail, which costs something.
We should streamline the paperwork to hire foreign people legally.
We need a process for American foster children whose birth certificates have been lost to get legal paperwork, and we need punishment for the adults responsible for these foster children, and who allowed this to happen.
We should make it easier to be legal, and a lot worse FOR THE EMPLOYER not to be legal.
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"We should streamline the paperwork to hire foreign people legally."
I agree 100% But this is too vague as is. And you are too draconian on employeers of humans without papers.
We should start processing all humans without papers now. Small fine. Freeze ICE raids. Offer a waiver of fines for those who learn English.
All persons always deserve positive regard.
William J. Kelleher, Ph.D.
We have laws for a reason. Immigrants should come here legally...or not at all. As for those already here, they have broken our laws and must be returned to their homes to make application to the USA via legal channels, at the end of the line, behind all those who have been waiting patiently, and legally.
Do you REALLY want to force at gun point 12,000,000 human beings with their all their children who were born here, go to school here, have friends and family here, across the border into TJ and make them fill out papers and wait for two or three years?
Is that you you really believe to be AMERICAN JUSTICE?
Is that what you really believe to be AMRICAN JUSTICE?
One more time:
Is that what you really believe to be AMERICAN JUSTICE?
I'm not saying that we do something to the immigrants.
I'm saying we do something to those who HIRE the immigrants.
Those who are here legally,
INCLUDING people who were not born here,
need those jobs.
How do you reconcile these two statements by you?
1. "I'm not saying that we do something to the immigrants.”
2. “As for those already here, they have broken our laws and must be returned to their homes to make application to the USA via legal channels, at the end of the line, behind all those who have been waiting patiently, and legally.”
Do you or don’t you want to bus, or otherwise herd, 12,000,000 of our brothers and sisters without a file folder full of papers back to TJ?
Since the beginning, this country has been built upon the backs of others through slavery, indentured servitude, the hiring of illegal immigrants and those that are made to feel that they have no rights to fair pay and just working environments. True, they might not be bound with physical chains, but it is still modern day slavery. Who would work for $3 an hour in harsh labor conditions that most citizens would sneer at.
These illegal immigrants aren't taking jobs away from Americans. They do the jobs that Americans don't want. And what does society do? They turn a blind eye in the name of cheaper products and claim ignorance to the abuse.
Right on, izzymunkey
Small fine. Freeze ICE raids. Offer a waiver of fines for those who learn English.
William Kelleher asks:
How do you reconcile these two statements by you?
1. "I'm not saying that we do something to the immigrants.”
2. “As for those already here, they have broken our laws and must be returned to their homes to make application to the USA via legal channels, at the end of the line, behind all those who have been waiting patiently, and legally.”
I respond:
I said #1, not #2.
There is no name next to #2 so I don't know who said it.
Not that it matters, the brainstorming is done. The people who set up this site are on to the next phase.
Federation for American Immigration Reform
Earlier Today, House Appropriators Rejected E-Verify Amendments; Reps. Price,
Obey, and Wasserman-Schultz Spoke Against These Provisions
Earlier this morning, the House Appropriations Committee met to write
the annual Homeland Security spending bill and the annual bill that
funds Congress for the coming year. At the "mark-up," the
Committee rejected two E-Verify related amendments to the Homeland
Security bill and another related to the Legislative Branch spending
bill. E-Verify is an electronically operated system that ensures
American jobs go to American workers by allowing employers to quickly
check the work authorization status of their new hires.
Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA) -- a true immigration reformer --
offered an amendment to the Homeland Security bill to extend
E-Verify. While that bill already contains a short, two-year
reauthorization of E-Verify, Congressman Calvert knows the true value
of the program and sought a longer extension of E-Verify. After
Calvert spoke in support of his amendment, Appropriations Homeland
Security Subcommittee Chairman, Rep. David Price (D-NC), spoke against the
amendment. Rep. Price urged the entire Committee to vote
against the amendment. Then, the Committee Chairman, Rep. David
Obey (D-WI), spoke against the amendment, as well. Obey argued
that the Homeland Security spending bill shouldn't contain an E-Verify
authorization at all!
Immediately following the rejection of the Calvert Amendment, another
true immigration reformer -- Representative Jack Kingston (R-GA)
-- offered an amendment to the Homeland Security bill to require
companies who contract with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to use
E-Verify. This common sense amendment would have ensured that contractors who
do business with DHS -- the same agency
tasked with enforcing our immigration laws -- do not hire illegal
aliens. Congressman Price AGAIN spoke in opposition to the
Kingston amendment, erroneously claiming that E-Verify is inaccurate
and that the program would be unable to handle the expansion to DHS
contractors. Even though Congressman Kingston pointed out that
DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano stated last month that the program
could indeed handle a large-scale expansion, and that the program has
an incredible accuracy rate of 99.6%, the House Appropriations
Committee still rejected the amendment!
Later in the morning, Congressman Kingston attempted to attach a
similar E-Verify amendment to the Legislative Branch spending
bill. This provision would have required contractors who do
business with the U.S. Congress to use E-Verify. This time,
Appropriations Legislative Branch Subcommittee Chairwoman Debbie
Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL) urged the Committee to reject the Kingston
Amendment.
In speaking out against these amendments, Reps. Price, Obey, and
Wasserman-Schultz effectively urged their colleagues to not only put
the E-Verify program in jeopardy, but also ensure that illegal aliens
can continue to work on federal contracts with DHS and the U.S.
Congress!
We need you to call the following Members of Congress who spoke
against E-Verify TODAY:
Rep. David Price: (202) 225-1784
Rep. David Obey: (202) 225-3365
Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: (202) 225-7931
Tell these Members that they need to get their facts straight.
Tell them:
* 14.5 million Americans are out of work and millions more are
underemployed.
* Americans, not illegal aliens, should be hired for any available
jobs.
* E-Verify is highly effective, and it works to protect American
jobs!!!
* Congress needs to start standing up for American workers, and
not special interests!!
Also, please call Rep. Calvert and Rep. Kingston, and thank them for
standing up on behalf of American Workers!
Rep. Ken Calvert: (202) 225-1986
Rep. Jack Kingston: (202) 225-5831
DON’T BE FOOLED!
“Federation for American Immigration Reform” is a people hating rightist organization.
E-Verify would immediately deprive an innocent Hispanic person, or other human being, who wants to work from getting hired because of a non-verification of legal residency on a government web site. A person who was born here, and so has no papers, could be refused a job!
Even a person with papers, who did not get “verified” by the government web site could be denied employment. It could take months to correct any mistakes on the government web site.
"99.6%" accuracy is BS! Government bureaucrats put in the data. They makes lots of errors!
E-Verify is guaranteed to cause needless hardship and injustice to the innocent. That is why non-people hating Congresspersons rejected it!