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Mr. Obama, Please release your long form birth certificate to prove your US citizenship as required by the US Constitution. If not, please step down as President of the United States.

good idea. have to be american to be president.

Don't pretend you want to put the controversy to rest. If Obama provides a more detailed birth certificate you'll just call it a forgery and continue on as before.

"Don't pretend you want to put the controversy to rest. If Obama provides a more detailed birth certificate you'll just call it a forgery and continue on as before."

Incorrect.. if he will release his LONG Form, aka.. the one with the Doctor of Birth/Time of Birth/Hospital of Birth/Place of Birth.. to a Non-Bias Forensic Expert. You would find, even if we don't agree with him.. those of us that are concerned with this issue, would drop it. Of course, as long as he was Born here.

Obama's Maternal Grandfather and Great Uncle landed at Normandy 65 years ago today. His Mother was a U.S. citizen. He was born to her a U.S. citizen no matter where or how his birth was documented. You slugs should crawl back under your rocks. This is my lowest hour as I comment on such a ridiculous non issue.

Hi:

I flagged this as a duplicate. Have a nice day a-hole.

"He was born to her a U.S. citizen no matter where or how his birth was documented."

Incorrect, you may wish to re-visit the Laws that were on the Books back in 1961, as they are the ones that would apply to this issue.

"Hi:

I flagged this as a duplicate. Have a nice day a-hole."

Don't we have Nero Complex...LOL

His birth certificate is irrelevant.

The relevant requirement in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 is that he be a natural born citizen, not a mere citizen nor citizen upon birth. By Obama's own admission on fightthesmears.com, he was born with British citizenship through his father. This does not meet the criteria for NBC from two seperate Supreme Court decisions.

The first case to cite the definition of natural born citizen was the Waite in Minor v Happersett in 1875 with the opinion rendered by Chief Justice Waite:

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

This same opinion was cited by a seperate Court, that of Chief Justice Gray in United States v Wong Kim Ark (1898).

Never did either of these two Courts ever undermine, contradict or dismiss this definition in either majority or minority opinions. Never has any other Supreme Court ever contradicted these opinions in any way.

This definition of NBC held by these two Supreme Courts is a paraphrase of de Vattel's definition in "Law of Nations", which was a primary reference used by our Founders in drafting the Constitution:

S 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens . As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Barack Obama's father was a citizen of Kenya and never became a citizen of the United States.

As a result, Barack Obama was born a citizen of Britain. Natural born citizen only involves one's status upon birth. Proving that Obama is not a citizen by any later actions on his part is much more work than proving he is not a NBC, which is already in evidence and known.

The fact is Barack Obama is forever unqualified to be President, cannot be cleansed to be so by any popular vote, and is and can only be a usurper in an unlawful government.

Clearly, America's government has been hijacked by a foreign hostile intent on looting our country. The sheeple are being stampeded like cattle – to trample over those who resist. Not only is Obama not an American, he’s an illegal alien, since his Mother never processed him through Immigration when she brought him over from Indonesia.

It's amazing that the title to my vehicle has a lot more information on it than the COLB that O showed to us as his proof of citizenship.

Top Ten Things That You Should Know About

Barack H. Obama’s, (a/k/a Barry Soetoro) US Citizenship

1. He may not be a natural born citizen qualified to serve as President under Article II of the Constitution?

2. He is a suspected illegal alien.

3. He took elected office and was admitted to the Illinois Bar under an alias

He admits he was born to an American mother and a British subject, suggesting dual citizenship at best. If he was not born on U.S. soil, and his mother was a minor, she was ineligible to convey US citizenship. Under the British Nationality Act of 1948, he was born a British Citizen. His paternal grandmother claims to have attended his birth in Kenya. Kenya memorializes his place of birth.

At age 3, his mother and father divorced. His mother remarried and his step-father enrolled him in school in Indonesia as "Barry Soetoro."

At age 10, after his mother's second divorce,he reentered the US by casually and illegally assuming his birth name. Later still, he ran for and won elected office under his birth name without disclosing his legal name or his prior use of alternative names.

No record of any legal name change from ‘Barry Soetoro’ to ‘Barack Obama’ has ever been found.

4. He probably lost his citizenship.

An Indonesian citizen at age 6, having been adopted by a national, he may be in the US illegally. USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by natural born citizens upon "taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state ... after having attained the age of eighteen years," in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship. If Obama got an Indonesian passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had.

5. He is suspected of secretly holding a foreign passport.

When he traveled to Pakistan ‘in college’, Americans were not allowed into that country. If he traveled on an Indonesian passport in 1981 at age 20, he was and remains an Indonesian citizen.

6. He posted an illegitimate birth record to deflect questions and allegations.

7. The Certification of Live Birth is a suspected forgery.

The "Certification of Live Birth" shown on FightTheSmears.com is not a birth certificate, but an image of an abstract that was invalidated by alteration. As indicated on that same image, the blacked out certification number invalidates the document. Document analysis shows it to be a suspected forgery.

The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs. As a security measure, Hawaii changes their borders every year. This is when the Obama campaign claims the certificate was obtained. However, the seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB. As revealed by a process called edging, the Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year. Document experts have analyzed other aspects and find forgery.

8. He refuses to release relevant records.

Since matters available in the public domain raise these issues, the burden rests on Obama/Soetoro to explain. He declines to release college applications, transcripts, his birth record, or addresses of where he has lived. UNSEAL COLLEGE RECORDS!!

9. His selective service registration may be falsified. UNSEAL THE RECORD TO PROVE AUTHENTICITY.

A FOIA document shows a 2008 sequence number for a supposed 1980 registration, an incorrect date of signature, an obsolete postal stamp and other discrepancies. Did he register at age 18 like everyone else?

10. Not a single cause of action has been won by Obama on the merits.

All pending suits attempting to get Obama/Soetoro to produce simple documents have been dismissed on technical grounds such as the standing of the plaintiff. Therefore, the courts, including the Supreme Court of the United States have never ruled on the merits of his citizenship.

11. 25 different Social Security numbers are registered under different variations of Barack Obama & Barry Soetoro. Were these Social Security numbers used to defraud the U.S. governement student loan programs. How many student loans were issued to Barack Obama a.k.a. Barry Soetoro under these 25 different Social Security numbers? How many were paid back to the U.S. government student loan programs? RELEASE THE INFORMATION TO PROVE THAT BARACK OBAMA a.k.a. BARRY SOETORO DID NOT DEFRAUD THE U.S. GOVERNMENT STUDENT LOAN PROGRAMS.

CHECK THE FACTS:

“Dreams from my Father”

Section 301(a)(7) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S.C. §1401(b)

FightTheSmears.com admits: “When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.” However, Obama should have reaffirmed allegiance under 8 USC 1401 et seq. upon turning 18. He did not.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074

AP photo Image of registration shown at http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72656

http://www.plainsradio.com/Home1/SOETORO%20DIVORCE%20P%201-5.pdf

18 USC 1001: It is a federal crime punishable to lie to a federal official, which would include immigration and election.

The divorce decree confirms he was adopted by an Indonesian citizen.

Title 8 USCA 1401, 1481, & 1483

A new revelation made during a public campaign appearance in San Francisco in April of 2008 wherein his abilities in the arena of foreign relations was under discussion.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obamas-college.html

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_did_n.html

tjmccann:

The case Waite in Minor V. Happersett did not decide the meaning of "natural born citizen." Your quote is taken out of context. The court was discussing the meaning of "natural born citizen and brought up two competing theories, one that the parents must be citizens, and another that the parents need not be citizens. "It was never doubted..." only refers to the children of citizens, because they didn't have to rule on that since it was decided. The court then turned to the other possible definition. Here is the entire passage in context:

The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. SOME AUTHORITIES GO FURTHER AND INCLUDE AS CITIZENS CHILDREN BORN WITHIN THE JURISDICTION WITHOUT REFERENCE TO THE CITIZENSHIP OF THEIR PARENT. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CASE IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO SOLVE THESE DOUBTS. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens."

The appellant in the case was born in America of citizen parents. She was a woman. The issue of the case was whether a woman was entitled to vote following the 14th Amendment. So the court didn't have to decide the meaning of "natural born citizen" and didn't. They never offered an opinion either way.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=88&page=162

In US V Kim Wong Ark the court did decide the meaning of "natural born citizen" based on hundreds of years of precedent and the law that was in affect in the United States at the time of the drafting of the Constitution. The precedents listed go on further than I could stay awake reading. The framers were certainly using the current legal definition.

Here's what the court in Ark ruled:

"It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore EVERY CHILD BORN IN ENGLAND OF ALIEN PARENTS WAS A NATURAL-BORN SUBJECT, unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign state, or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born."

"III. THE SAME RULE WAS IN FORCE IN ALL THE ENGLISH COLONIES upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards,AND CONTINUED TO PREVAIL UNDER THE CONSTITUTION AS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED."

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=169&page=649

To the extent that its been decided, the law in the US for as long as we have existed has always been that a child born in the US of immigrant parents was a citizen. This law was later reinforced by the 14th Amendment.

Finally, you cite Vattel as a source of the principle that children of alien parents were not citizens. But Vattel wrote that in a book about the law of nations. Some nations said such children were citizens. Some nations didn't. Vattel was not discussing US law, which at the time of the framing said such children were citizens.

Vattel is cited by the defense in Ark. There is nothing in the dissent that says the founders followed Vattel's reference to the law of other nations when they drafted the constitution. We draft laws based on legal terms of our own county, not someone else's.

to agkaiser1; NO ONE is a slug for demanding truth in their own country! And why dont you Stay under your own rock!

what's a non-issue is all these other smoke screen bullcrap stuff. homeless whatever it doesn't matter, unless a mass murderer starts taking out hoomeless then you look at the issue but you keep the birth certificate keep talking about it. the birth certificate is the only issue.

Bottom line to this whole argument is this...Obama preaches transparancy and yet he has paid (documented) over $1 million to fight every Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) release of his long form birth certificate, passport information and college school admission records. I have nothing to hide...you want to see this stuff...I'll show it to you. But if someone is paying over $1 million and keeping a team of lawyers busy working the numerous cases which have been filed regarding this issue, any intelligent person would have to ask, "Why?"

I don't care if you are conservative or a progressive, a Republican or Democrat, a college graduate or high school drop out, a doctor, lawyer, construction worker, auto worker, grocery store clerk, hair stylist, busboy, etc. If you are an American you should be wondering why he is paying so much to prevent the release of a $25 document.

Raydene: Obama doesn't want to spend $1 million of the public treasury on frivolous lawsuits. The birthers do, and they should be ashamed of wasting so much money when times are so hard.

Obama has no choice but to fight. What is the alternative? Should he concede to bogus claims that he's not qualified and resign?

vcreport found out that its impossible for Obama to obtain his long form birth certificate. Those records were scrubbed in Hawaii in 2001 when they went to all electronic records. Why are the birthers filing frivolous lawsuits to demand a document that doesn't exist?

Of course, whatever could be given to the birthers wouldn't be enough. They'd want more and more. Its much cheaper for Obama to have these frivolous suits thrown out from the start. I'm glad he's doing it.

Obama has no choice but to fight. What is the alternative? Should he concede to bogus claims that he's not qualified and resign?"

Are you sure about that? As I know a very cheap way to end this.. Have Mr. O pay the 10 or 15 dollars to the State of HI for his Long Form, turn it over to a Non-Bias Foresic Expert and have the truth come out.. or as they say, Let the chips fall where they may..

constitutionrules:

Did you read what I wrote? EVREPORT found an article from Hawaii in which the Hawaiin Deparment of Health stated that they got rid of all the old birth certificates back in 2001 and now only have the electronic version that was given to Obama.

Obama probably lost the original. He went to get a copy. What he gave you is all he could possibly get. THERE IS NO LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

Does that, as you pretend, mean that the fact that the document being sought by the birthers does not exist means that the birthers will be satisfied and shut up?

Of course not. The birthers are demonically possessed with this stuff. They'll persist with this until....well, forever. Just watch!

Creeksneakers2,

I am not sure where you are getting your info but you are INCORRECT. My best friend is a Hawaiian. She was born in CA when her father was going to USC, however he was a Hawaiian resident and so she has a long form CA birth certificate as well as the short form Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth which states that she was born in HI. Despite having a the COLB, she must use the long form birth certificate for most all legal purposes including when she got a drivers license because the State of HI will not accept the COLB as valid proof of HI residency. Her friends who were born in HI have no need for the COLB because they have the regular long form birth certificate. And...even if Obama was born in HI and the "Actual" original birth certificate was destroyed, the information from that document would have been entered into the electronic record and would be available in a long form certified state birth certificate. If you are over age 40 and ask for the state of your birth to send you a copy of your birth certificate, you will see that they won't send you a photo copy of the original that was issued at your birth, but a computer generated form that will still show all the info, hospital, parents name, doctor, etc.

It is NOT us "birthers" as you call us that are wasting time and money, it is the person in the White House who is terrified of allowing this information out. Think about it...if what you say is true and the original no longer exists and the case is closed...then why does he need to spend millions to fight the document being released? If it doesn't exist, and your theory is fact, then there would be no argument to these cases because the case would go before the judge and the judge would be provided proof that this information has been completely destroyed and would then dismiss on this basis. This isn't the argument Obama's lawyers are using and it isn't what is happening in the court. His argument is that WE THE PEOPLE have no right to ask for this information. That, my fellow American, is not the type of response that a person professing to want a government of transparency would be using if his words were true.

Raydene: I can prove all that wrong with links. But for now, I'm just wondering, why if your friend was born in California she has a birth certificate that says she was born in Hawaii?

Here's the article EVREPORT posted. I can find links to contradict the rest of what you claim but for now:

evreport 5 hours ago Report Abuse

Honolulu Star-Bulletin, June 6, 2009

Question: What is the state's policy for issuing a "Certification of Live Birth" versus a "Certificate of Live Birth"? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier's name and title; attendant's name and title, etc. The certification has only the child's name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother's maiden name, mother's race, father's name and father's race. Why doesn't the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?

Answer: No, you can't obtain a "certificate of live birth" anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues "certifications" of live births, and that is the "official birth certificate" issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it's only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she said.

Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

"The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," Okubo said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."

"The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models," she said.

Okubo also emphasized the certification form "contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate."

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, "This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate."

http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html

he's a kenyan, what does it matter what someone thinks.

Idrancer, it is obvious you do not know our Constitution. This is the problem. Obama and Congress has been about to get away with violating our Constitution on a daily basis because Americans don't even know they are violating it. If you don't know what is in it, you don't know your own rights and if they are being violated or not. Did you know that in Article I Section 1 "Before he (the Pres.) enter on the Execution of his office he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: " I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." The Obama Administration has violated the Amendment X "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Obama forced all the States Governors to take Stimulus money if those that did not need it. No where in the Constitution does not say States have to accept funds from the Federal Government. Obama used similar bully tactic with the Banks and the Bail Out money "My Administration is the only thing between you and the pitchfork." Obama threatened Congress to pass Stimulus Bill stating for those that vote against the Stimulus Bill, he was making a list. Obama is not only 50% Kenyan, which according to the Constitution a person with Kenyan/British citizenship is not eligible to be President of the United States, Obama is Kenyan usurper.

Creeksneakers2- this is in response to your last comment to me.

My friend in HI has a COLB from HI because her father is a natural born HI and he and her mother were residents of HI, but because he was a football player and had to be on the mainland she was physically born there and not on the islands. The COLB in HI can be issued (at least at that time...the time period when my friend was born and when Obama was born) to any child that was born to a parent who was a resident of HI during that time period despite where they were physically born. The COLB does NOT list a place of birth (as in hospital). Instead it lists the city of residency of the parents. Obama's mother's parents were residents of HI. His mother was under the age of recognized majority at that time period and was thereby still a legal dependent to her parents and therefore still able to list their address as hers for reasons of residency. The COLB is NOT a birth certificate and does not certify that a birth occurred in HI, it only certifies that a resident of HI was born alive; wherever that birth may have been. Back to my friend...I am not positive why her parents chose to do a COLB, and I am not going to call her at this moment because there are 5 hours in time difference and I am not going to wake her up, however it may have something to do with some of the laws in HI and how there are restrictions on certain things unless you are a HI at birth.

I read the response that you listed, but I can tell you that it is not accurate. The state of HI will NOT accept the short form (even though your response suggests it no longer "exists") COLB as proof of identity for purposes of getting a drivers license in that state. So if the State of HI will not even accept this "document" as valid, why should we accept it? Answer? We shouldn't.

Did Obama's aunt ever get deported or did she get a hall pass from him? On the BC issue, produce the original andwe can all be sure he is our president. Until then, I don't buy it.

No she did not get deported...she got a "stay". So in other words...immigration laws? What immigration laws...?

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Update on The biggest political cover up in American history

Worse than Watergate, Whitewatergate, or any of the other cover ups of previous administrations, is the question of whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States of America... OR, is he a FRAUD, a USURPER, a man with no legal authority to sit in the position that he now claims to hold?

Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest RIGHT NOW by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON'T! Instead, he has had teams of attorneys all over the country, fighting "tooth and nail" to thwart the efforts of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF), and our allies in a number of states, to compel him to produce an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to serve as President of these United States!

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Ohio, Mississippi, Hawaii, and California! These are the states where USJF has been involved in lawsuits seeking an answer to this critical constitutional question!

And now, in California, just like in every lawsuit filed over this issue, the Obama team of attorneys, working with liberal allies in the office of California Attorney General Jerry Brown, has convinced a Sacramento County Superior Court judge to dismiss USJF's suit to force the truth to come out about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born" citizen, and, therefore, eligible to serve as President of the United States.

BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING UP! Our clients in this case, including 2008 candidate for President of the United States, Alan Keyes, have given USJF the go ahead to file an appeal of this decision!

AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO -- BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP TO DO IT!

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A number of apologists for Barack Obama have gone to great lengths to belittle USJF and our allies in the fight to preserve our Constitution. However, the questions that they cannot answer are:

If Barack Hussein Obama has nothing to hide, WHY doesn't he just make his real birth certificate public? WHY has he spent a almost $900,000.00 in attorney fees, for, among other things, fighting USJF's efforts to obtain his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The more that he fights these efforts to see this document, the more that you have to wonder, WHY?

Obama supporters want everyone to believe that only "fringies," the people that they now call "birthers," in other words, only people that they claim are outside of the main stream of thinking, question whether Mr. Obama is truly eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. But the truth of the matter is that more and more people, including many federal, state, and local elected officials, AND many in the military, are questioning whether Barack Hussein Obama is, indeed, a "natural born citizen," a Constitutional requirement for him to serve as President of these United States.

The citizens of this country have the right to know if Barack Obama is, indeed, eligible to serve as President! And we here at the United States Justice Foundation are going to take our lawsuit all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary, to find out the answer to this critical question.

This fight to discover the truth will be neither easy nor inexpensive, but isn't protecting the Constitution worth it? And that is exactly what this legal battle is all about,

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Barack Obama wants you to ignore what he is doing, he wants you to ignore the U.S. Constitution, he wants you to think that the parts of the Constitution that he does not agree with (like the requirements to serve as President) are unimportant.

In effect, he wants to destroy the U. S. Constitution and reshape this country into his own image of what he wants it to be.

And Barack Obama's attorneys have now taken another big step to destroy the Constitution of the United States -- this time in a California State Court. Those attorneys, working with liberal California State Attorney General Jerry Brown, convinced the Judge in our case to rule that only Members of Congress can challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, or any candidate, to serve as President.

And, the Judge further ruled that such a challenge could only be made on the 6th day of January following the meeting of the Presidential electors, at the session of Congress where the vote of the Electoral College is counted and the results announced. To use the Judge's words, this is "the exclusive means for challenges to the qualifications of President..."

That means that no one, except a Member of Congress, and only on one certain day of the year following the Presidential election, can challenge the qualifications of a President-Elect! And then, the challenge can only be successful if a majority of the Members of Congress support the challenge! And that means that the politicians, not the people, are in control of who becomes President if there is an eligibility issue!

Is that what you want? Do you believe that the majority party in both Houses of Congress should be deciding who is eligible to serve as President? Do you want Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid deciding who is President?

That means that the requirements of the U. S. Constitution as to the eligibility of the man or woman who runs for President to serve as President are meaningless!

Do you believe that the Constitution is a meaningless document? Do you believe that a majority of the Members of Congress have the right to ignore it? To render it of no force and effect?

The Trial Court Judge in our case did! But we are not going to accept his decision. We are not going to accept the legal arguments made by Barack Hussein Obama's attorneys, and those by attorneys from liberal California Attorney General Jerry Brown. We are going to keep fighting this monumentally important legal battle all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary.

IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST FIGHT!

IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST WIN!

IT'S A BATTLE THAT WILL DECIDE WHETHER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL REMAIN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, OR WHETHER WE WILL JOIN THE DUST HEAP OF HISTORY AS JUST ANOTHER FAILED EXPERIMENT!

USJF IS IN A BATTLE THAT COULD CHANGE THE HISTORY OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY! -- but we need YOUR help to WIN!

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We MUST learn the truth about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen!

But to blunt our efforts to learn the truth, the Trial Court also blocked our subpoena for the college records of Mr. Obama! These vital records could have proven whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States, or whether he is a USURPER, a FRAUD, sitting in the oval office without any legal authority to do so!

What is in those records? We do not know. But the Obama legal team pulled out all of the stops to block the subpoena, so we believe that there is something in those college records that bears on the critical issue of whether Barack Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States.

JUST LIKE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY THE OBAMA LEGAL TEAM, ACCORDING TO A PUBLISHED REPORT, HAS BEEN PAID OVER $800,000.00, and as much as almost $900,000.00, TO KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM SEEING HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE -- NOT THE PHONEY ONE THAT HE PUT UP ON HIS WEBSITE.

There is no doubt in my mind that this e-mail may be the one of the most important documents that you ever read!

What you do after reading this e-mail may well determine the fate of the United States of America!

Please know that we are not saying that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. The problem is we just do not know!

We do know that Barack Obama's maternal step-grandmother has proclaimed that she was present at his birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, in Africa!

We do know that a fake birth certificate was put up on Obama's website!

We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in every case filed over this issue; to make sure that no one has access to his birth certificate.

We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in our California case; to make sure that no one has access to his college records.

DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!

HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM

RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!

The voters of the United States of America have the right to know whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen," as REQUIRED by the U. S. Constitution!

It's a question that MUST be answered!

Why? Because, if an unqualified person was elected to the Office of President of the United States, our entire form of government could be compromised!

Why?

Because, if Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States, each and every act that he takes as President will be null and void! That's right, each bill that he signs into law, every Executive Order that he issues, and each and every one of his nominations to his Cabinet and to the federal courts will have no legal effect!

I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration.

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution provides, in pertinent part, as follows: "No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President..."

That means that neither Osama Bin Laden, nor California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, nor Obama billionaire money man George Soros can serve as President of the United States. That also means that if Barack Obama was born outside of the United States, he is not eligible to serve as President of our great country!

So where was Mr. Obama born?

He claims to have a copy of his birth certificate. That means that either he knows where he was born, or he's lying about having that document.

And only Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question of where he was born. But he has teams of attorneys, all across the country, spending, and doing, whatever it takes to make sure that no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be allowed to see the one document that can clear up this controversy

Mr. Obama has claimed that his Presidential administration will be the most transparent in history. Yet, he will not make public the one document that could end all of the questions about the legitimacy of his election as President.

And you have to ask yourself, WHY?

Is it because this is some unimportant "technicality"? No, a requirement of the U. S. Constitution is not a mere "technicality"!

Is it because "President" Obama (if he is the President of the United States) has more important issues to deal with, and can't spare the time to deal with such a trivial issue? No, what is more important than the integrity of the Office of the President?

Or, is there something more involved?

Another question that the Obamaphiles don't want to answer is why, in 2005, was a law firm with ties to Mr. Obama researching the question as to how to evade the requirements of Article II of the United States Constitution, regarding the requirements to serve as President. 2005? Three years before the Presidential campaign?

If that doesn't raise questions in your mind, then nothing will!

And then there's the statements made by representatives of the State of Hawaii!

According to Dr. Chiyome Fukino, of the State of Hawaii's Department of Health,

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Exactly what does that mean? If she can access it, why can't we? It is that very record that USJF financed lawsuits in Mississippi and in Hawaii were seeking to force into the public arena! But Obama's attorneys, and his allies in state government, stopped those efforts cold!

So, the time of decision is now!

Do we give up?

Do we just ignore this threat to our Constitution? To our very form of government?

We here at USJF say NO!

Now is not the time to give up this fight!

Now is not the time to walk away from the most important Constitutional battle in our lifetime!

Now is the time to redouble our efforts to find out the truth!

Now is the time to tell Barack Hussein Obama that the United States Constitution is far more important than his political ambition!

But we can only do this with your help! With your financial support, and with the financial support of everyone that you know!

HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM

RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!

Will you stand with us?

Sincerely,

Gary Kreep, Executive Director

United States Justice Foundation

P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen... IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!

Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution. DON'T LET HIM DO IT!

HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM

RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!

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I woner if any of this does any good? Is anyone in Washington listening? Probably not. They have their paychecks and retirement plan.

Don't forget...they also have their nice health care plan...

That's a very good question - IS ANYONE IN CONGRESS LISTENING AND/OR PAYING ATTENTION TO AMERICAN'S "HOT TOPIC" OF CONCERN AND DEMAND TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH REGARDING OBAMA'S ELIGIBILITY TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. Judging by the silence in Congress abut this very legitimate concern and violation of our U.S. Constitution, the American people can only conclude that all of Congress is complicit to this crime against the American people and U.S. government. RE ELECT NO ONE IN 2010 & 2012 & ENACT WE THE PEOPLE'S TERM LIMITS OF 3 TERMS AND YOUR OUT!!!! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REDUCE CORRUPTION IN CONGRESS!! Congressmen & women think they are in for live and can do whatever they want. We the People need to let them know that if they do not adhere to the American people's outcries i.e. NO BAIL OUTS, NO GOVERNMENT SEIZURES OF AMERICAN BUSINESSES, NO IRRESPONSIBLE, RECKLESS SPENDING, NO DEBT TO CHINA OR SAUDI, NO EAR MARKS OR PORK, NO CLOSING OF GITMO OR TERRORIST ON OUR SOIL, SECURE OUR BORDERS, NO AMNESTY, ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS, NO CAP & TRADE, NO SOCIALIZED UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, DRILL BABY DRILL NOW!!, NO TAX INCREASES, NO GOVERNMENT WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, NO TO CZARS IN THE WHITE HOUSE, UNSEAL OBAMA'S RECORDS SO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH!!!! FOR THE DSA, LIBERAL DEMOS THAT WANT TO PUT THEIR PROPAGANDA SPIN ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S DEMANDS, THE PARTY OF "NO" IS A GOOD THING FOR AMERICA!!! CONGRESSMEN AND WOMEN NEED TO LEARN TO SAY "NO" TO OBAMA, PELOSI & REID'S WASTEFUL, RECKLESS, IRRESPONSIBLE, UNACCOUNTABLE, PURELY PARTISAN, DISCRIMINATORY, UNCONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION.

A Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.A, wife, mother, teacher who loves her country

Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?

Even state requires long-form document for some eligibility, identification issues

Posted: June 07, 2009

4:10 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily

From the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands website

WASHINGTON – The Hawaiian certification of live birth Barack Obama posted on his campaign website and distributed to select news organizations as proof he was a "natural born citizen" would not be accepted as a "birth certificate" even for some Hawaiian state government eligibility issues, WND has learned.

The investigation follows a Honolulu Star Bulletin column Saturday, which quotes a state Department of Health spokeswoman as saying the state's current certification of live birth is recognized "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

The website of the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, however, states clearly the certification of live birth touted by the Obama campaign, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and a host of other Obama defenders is not acceptable as a form of identification to qualify under this program.

As WND has reported, certifications of live birth were widely issued to Hawaiians born in foreign countries in 1961, the year Obama was born.

Are you motivated yet to join the billboard campaign and clear up the air of mystery surrounding Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve?

The Star Bulletin column goes on to report: "The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign website a fake."

However, Obama's "citizenship" was never the question raised during the campaign or after the election. The issue raised by WND has consistently been that Obama failed to prove he was actually born in Hawaii and thus constitutionally qualified to become president as a "natural born citizen" – which requires that the birth took place in the United States.

The qualifications for the Hawaiian Home Lands program require a certified copy of a standard birth certificate – also known as the "long-form certificate" filled out in the hospital and including details such as the name of the hospital and the attending physician.

"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green," the qualifications state. "This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

According to Hawaii's Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo, the state only issues "certifications" of live births since 2001 when the health department went paperless. It is only available in electronic form, she said.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she is quoted as telling the Star Bulletin. "The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," Okubo said.

She did not explain how those needing a standard long-form birth certificate to qualify for programs such as those offered by the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands or to establish proof of eligibility to be president could be fulfilled. She said the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements." She did not, however, cite any specific rulings, and the Supreme Court has not taken up the issue of whether the certification of live birth would qualify a presidential candidate as eligible under the "natural born citizen" clause

Many of members of the public commenting on the Star Bulletin column raised similar questions:

"I'm fifty years old and I need to apply for a passport," wrote one. "So I scan some representation of COLB onto my Facebook page. If I take my laptop to the DMV, can I just open my laptop to show my web page to the clerk who will then verify my citizenship and issue me a legal passport? I'm sorry but some documents need a paper trail."

"To be president you need to be a 'natural born citizen,'" said another. "That means you are born in this country of 'parents that are citizens.' Note that both 'parent' and 'citizen' are plural. His father was a British subject and, yes, under the laws of both the United States and the UK at the time [when] he was born, Obama's citizenship was passed by descent of the father. These are the facts. We have laws and no one is above them."

"There seems to be a great deal of secrecy surrounding this whole situation," said another. "I've read that he has three legal teams keeping his info private. He has also had all his college records sealed. So this is transparency and change? Why all the mystery?"

Additional controversy over where Obama was born came when the woman the president says is his paternal grandmother, Sarah Obama, claimed to have been present at her grandson's birth in Mombasa, Kenya.

Joseph Farah, WND editor and chief executive officer, launched a national billboard campaign last month in an effort to keep the issue before the American people. The billboards, being leased around the country, ask the simple question, "Where's the birth certificate?" Farah is asking the public to support his campaign with donations. So far, more than $75,000 has been collected.

Last week, CBS, the largest provider of outdoor advertising in the country, announced it would refuse requests for space for the campaign. But Farah says CBS' refusal to lease space for the campaign will not hinder it.

"There are plenty of other billboard companies willing and eager to take our money," said Farah. "The only obstacle to this campaign is raising the money necessary to make it truly a national phenomenon."

The billboard campaign followed one launched months earlier to collect the names on an electronic petition demanding accountability and transparency on the issue. So far, that petition has gathered nearly 400,000 names.

The campaign got a boost last week when WND White House correspondent Les Kinsolving asked Obama's press secretary, Robert Gibbs, why the president wouldn't release his birth certificate. Gibbs' response was covered live on C-SPAN and by Fox News Channel and others – excluding CBS.

It was the first time any member of the press corps has publicly asked a member of the administration a question directly related to Obama's constitutional eligibility for office as a "natural born citizen."

Congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," but no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.

Both the petition and the billboard campaign are part of what Farah calls an independent "truth and transparency campaign."

The first sign to be posted under the campaign, a digital, electronic one, is up and online on Highway 165 in Ball, La. – the result of a donation by the owner. In addition, based on the heavy volume of financial donations in the first days of the campaign, WND was able to commit to leasing three more standard billboards – one in Los Angeles, another in Orange County, Calif. and a third in Pennsylvania.