OpenGov - Open Government Brainstorm

You're right. This one shouldn't be pending approval.

FREE SPEECH!

Why is this post being held back? Why are you people acting like Junior Goebbels and Little Eichmanns? There's nothing derogatory about this post. Are you that moronic?

Maybe they flagged it because you can't spell "censored"... Also, I have a hard time believing you wrote anything thought provoking since this and at least three of the other posts you mention are non issues.

Orwell quotes- non issue, although I'm sure it was a great read.

Where do your posts go?- non issue

Treasonous executive orders- since it isn't based in reality- non issue.

Bush tax cuts- YAY, real issue! However, it has no place on a site about government transparency, which makes it- you guessed it- a non issue.

So you are a Communist, eh Mike?

So you are a God who can judge my sumbission (even though you didn't read my submissions (which were based in fact).

So do you want censorship for yourself?

Grow up.

Nope, toly, I am an Independent.

Not a God either, just a pretty good judge of character.

And it's not censorship- it just isn't relevant so it's being removed to make way for ideas that are.

No thanks, I prefer the nimbleness of youth.

I'm also independent. With age come wisdom. My posts were independent and Constitution based.

wemo your full of crap.

ill be the judge of that. if you want to censor pepole, and judg ethem.

anyway, where are teh posts. i made one taht communism sucks and it never got through.

what posts about freedom of speech. like im mad as hell and i ain't gonna take it anymore. the news guy who was tired of the crap, and wanted to say something, and the pepole being big iddiots. him saying waht was really going on, and people, nowadays, who are complete idiots, and would probably take that movie that was shown, and say oh it needs to be censored. gripe about it's message,

seee how wemo, comes i nand goes NOPE.. nope i am not on dope im on dope nope i on dope. im on dope. you know what, a ryme kjeeps your dumb butt out.

http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/6596-4049

I just posted these facts about Executive Orders, but Big Brother is holding it. Again. Did anyone ever read Orwell's 1984 or Animal Farm? Hello, Big Brother never goes away. It just gets worse with the next President because the precedent has been set. This isn't a party thing, but it should frighten you very much.

ldrancer- you're back! I missed your thoughtful words. I think you must be the smartest person here. If they don't listen to you they probably won't listen to anybody. It also looks like your spelling, punctuation, and grammar are getting better everyday. Glad you're having fun with the rhyme time- I don't see that I rhymed anywhere, but who am I to challenge a delusion.

BTW, ldrancer loves to flag posts and comments for removal. Good times!

You know what isn't relevant Mike? Your idea of censorship.

I fail to see valid cause for moderation. It is no worse than many.

It was moderated because it is a post, rather a question, that should have been an email to the moderator. It isn't an issue for comment, and it isn't an issue that contributes to the aim of government transparency. "Why am I being censored?" offers nothing to the general discussion of agency transparency- it just clogs up the works with another spam post.

you said nope is why i said ryhme. your full of crap you don't say nothing. is wht the guy said, and your full of crap.

nope nope dope i do dope. smoking dope nope dope dope dope dope dopeo dope dope smoke dope

moderating thsi stuff is dumb. a cuss filter, whatever, but who cares. people want someone to censor, they don't want moderated, cause theyre's nothing to moderate.

It is still inappropriate moderation because it is selective.

Many posts fail to contribute to NAPA's faulty interpretation of what should be on topic in an Open Government forum.

It is like offering whiskey to sample but demanding people spit it out without swallowing.

Incredibly stupid, in my opinion.

Listen, Hitler... other people are posting more non-nonsensical things than what I attempted to post, but their's are getting through.

My posts were not about birth certificates, but Constitutional items.

AND they will go through or I WILL have more lawyer put them through. Plenty of lawyers to go around in my family.

yea get of fthe internet, this is i am from teh country of antartica, im gonna post non-sensical things if i want to go back to kenya. bongo hahah stuff.

reasonous Executive Orders

See October 27, 1999 TESTIMONY on "The Impact of Executive Orders on the Legislative Process: Executive Lawmaking?" to the Committee on Rules, Subcommittee on Legislative and Budget Process. See also Exec. Branch - Presidential Power regarding the fact that there is absolutely no authority or legal basis for Presidential Executive Orders, these orders are treasonous in their elementary form and have been the most destructive force in eliminating the U.S. Constitution.

* Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation unlawfully suspended the great Writ of Habeas Corpus

* Franklin Roosevelt was president for a little over twelve years. that time, he issued 3,723 executive orders Franklin Roosevelt closed American banks and force citizens to turn in their gold to a private bank, the Federal Reserve Bank; detention of American citizens of Japanese descent

* 1951, Harry Truman seized Strikethreatened Steel Mills to prevent shortages that would endanger "national security."

* Richard Nixon imposed wage and price controls in 1971

* Jimmy Carter, groomed by the secret Bilderberg organizatoin, created Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) - see U.S. Concentration Camps

* George W. Bush and previous President's Executive Orders go further than Hitler and Stalin dared to put in writing:

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990

allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995

allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997

allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998

allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999

allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000

allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001

allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002

designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003

allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004

allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005

allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051

specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310

grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049

assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11490

Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921

allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the:

National Security Act of 1947

allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act

gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916

authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Act

enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979

And Obama just got started down the traditional road to King of the U.S.

See Liberty for life association

So that's where the flaw is- you guys are all reading "open government dialogue" to mean "open dialogue with the government" when the conversation is supposed to be about "a dialogue about open government." It's all in semantics- I finally understand!

The site was set up to address issues on implementing transparency of government agencies so that we can (after implementation) watch the operations and be more informed of where our tax dollars are spent. This dialogue is the beginning of that process. Moderation just helps to improve efficiency in getting "on topic" ideas heard.

I'm not confused. I was aware of the restricted nature of the forum.

I'm saying it is improper.

Obama's memo referenced three concepts.

He's referring to open government, then some agency comes along because 120 days have passed and provide a forum with a tiny little peephole into what Obama memo referenced.

The public is screaming to be heard.

The peephole token is utterly bankrupt and insufficient.

this is bull your being spyed on.. yea right, this is such a total load of crap. its the internet. and your gonna get anything happenning, like we have asked for the birth certificate. he's foriegn, he has to show his birth certificate. he will show his birth certificate.

I agree with you that there should also be a site where we could petition the government directly- that this also has an important role in transparency in as much as it clarifies the public voice on government operation. It would be far more visible than the days of writing letters to officials since we could see the numbers involved, and in seeing those numbers we would have a reasonable expectation to see results produced.

If this proposed site existed, then I agree wholeheartedly that no poster should be censored under any circumstances. I still believe that even on a site like that, that there should be some moderation for duplicate posts lest the conversation once again devolve into anarchy. I don't believe that moderation that strictly worked within those confines to prevent spamming, threats, and abuse constitutes as censorship.

All I am saying here is that this is not the proper forum. I, too, am waiting on that proposed forum to arrive, and I am hopeful that it will. Has anyone listed this idea, a site for open petition, as a topic to promote government transparency on this site...?

look how about some real people or are they gonna do the fake news, remember fema. ahha yea sure this sites real too, and wemo works for them. about the last part, first was sarcasm, then it was the truth. funny.

see:

http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/2433-4049

to vote on idea proposing open petition to government.

kenyan

some of mine are being held back as well. I just said that second amendments should apply to all state and local governments.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=638447372044116845