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you have to respect the fact that not everyone believes this end days philosophy. you also have to accept the fact that when it comes to the nations in the middle east, no one is not guilty. the reality is, both the jewish people and the palestinians have been the victims of corporations whose only aim in establishing Israel was to provide a western foothold in the region. they used the holocaust to their advantage at the expense of holocaust victims and the palestinian people. they created an impossible situation to sustain and they left the jewish people to fend for themselves (with a little defense money of course).

the real, evil in this world is already here. i do not believe some personage or creature needs to come to wreak havoc, we humans are doing it for ourselves. it comes in the forms of greed, anger, and stupidity. look around and you will observe it operating everywhere. you cannot fight these evils with evil. only love, compassion and understanding can help bridge the differences between us because of the evil we allow into our hearts.

do not allow your compassion for your fellow man to be manipulated by those who have an agenda. think for yourself and what you know in your heart to be true. learn to recognize fear in your life and don't react to it with anger and hate. this is truly the only way to save our world.

what needs to be said of this is there is right and wrong, nothing in between:

http://www.isj.org.uk/?id=232

Iso...that is your belief..I am not asking you to believe anything..so please don't ask me to believe what you think..I am simply stating the facts..like it or not..believe it or not..it still is fact...yes man is evil already ...and will continue to be so until Mr. AC is finally defeated..but..the real evil..the spirit of evil..has not reveled itself yet but will do so soon...I have no anger and hate..just pity for all the blind people..the ones that are so perfect in their own eyes that they don't see the real truth..the agenda is the left wing liberals...when the right says anytyhing that disagrees with the left is is hate speech..but the left can attack and impose all they want..the agenda is to pave the way for the anti-Christ...or possibly maybe also know as the 12th Imam hiding in the well or otherwise known as the bottomless pit..? could be ..but also could be somebody else..

Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, they are all Muslims who hate America!

The Muslim World did say they would kill us from within.

i did not ask you to believe what i think, only to consider that not everyone believes as you believe. i then proceeded to share my beliefs with you. if upon a real examination of your heart, you believe certain things are "true" then so be it.

unlike you, i do not "pity" those who believe something different from what i believe. pity usually infers a sense of superiority and that attitude only serves to dehumanize those who we see as different from ourselves.

right, left, don't you see what you are saying. the god you (i think) believe in created man in his image. christ preached a teaching of love. i see hate talk from the right as well as the left.

if the spirit of evil has not revealed itself yet, i don't know what you would consider as evil. i would rather not succumb to feelings of powerlessness that arise from the sense that evil and goodness are somehow "out there" apart from my individual life. the illusion that we are all separate is just that, illusion. when that melts away it is truly impossible to hate.

I know you are right on the money with this one. You don't have to believe in the "end of days"...but you have to admit it sure is one damn good guess that the Bible took at it from over 2000 years ago regardless.

Anyone who thinks Israel is a friend of the U.S. needs their head examined.

maybe, but they would be willing to drop bombs for us.

I had my head examined several time and they said it was fine...your test results were not so good.

Hey marob666 (excuse me I'm dyslexic), does that mean you think Iran, Syria, Hamass, Hizbaldass, and al Bundy Qaeda are your friends?

You Israel hating lefties are all alike. You try to equate zionism with racism as a way to shield yourself from being called a racist. Zionism is nothing more than love for a Jewish homeland. It's the same as Patriotism here in America. I suggest you get your head out of your racist rear end, and see yourself for what you are.

back in the 40's many jews opposed zionism for various reasons. the british used the zionist sentiment for a jewish homeland to stay close to middle eastern oil.

two wrongs never make a right. the holocaust survivors were used for geo-political purposes. i don't blame israel for not trusting anyone, but as a nation they need to realize that the palestinian people need a homeland too. the muslim world views israel with suspicion because they see israel as a satellite of the west. conflicts with israel and the muslim world have diverted attention over the years from the real dirty dealings going on in the region.

The Palestinian people could have had a homeland any time they wanted it. They even had the right to return to their homes, or seek just compensation for them after Israel's war for independence.

To blame Israel for everything isn't being historically accurate or fair. Keep in mind the Palestinians are Arabs and Muslims in their own right. Yet they are despised by their Arab brothers. They were also used as a tool by the Arabs after Israel won the war for thewir independence. Instead of allowing the palestinian refugees to return home, as was ascribed in UN resolution 194. Yet there were also rights given to the Jews in 194 that the Arabs couldn't live with. So what the Arabs did to the Palestinians was force them to live in squallid refugee camps, huddled along Israel's borders.

Why did the Arabs do this? For the simple fact that Resolution 194 recognized Israel's right to exist, and the Arabs didn't want that. By forcing the Palestinians to live in refugee camps, they were also ignoring Israel's right to exist.

What the Arabs did next was to drive every Jew out of Arab lands, causing in influx of Jewish refugees into the new state of Israel. You would think that the Arabs would have then invited their Palestinian brothers to live in the newly vacated homes that they had driven the Jews out of. But they didn't. They didn't care about the Palestinians. They didn't want to assimilate them into Arab culture, even though they were their brothers.

Keep in mind, it was the Arabs who caused the refugee problem in the first place by making the palestinians leave their homes. The Arabs promised them they could return after they drove every last Jew into the sea. theoretically, the arabs should have been able to do this. Their combined armies outnumbered the new Israeli defense force by a ten to one margin. Yet the Arabs couldn't defeat them. this is where Arab stubbornness comes into play. Instead of thinking about liberating the land for the Palestinian people, they began to think about whose country would rule the land once the Jews were driven into the sea. They started to fight and bicker amongst themselves, and eventually the arab coalition began to splinter. Many of them threw down their weapons and went home mad. Without a united cause, the war with Israel became lost.

So here we are, the poor Palestinians are trapped in the middle of an ancient war that has gone on for quite a long time. The Arabs are just as responsible for the Palestinian plight as are the Israelis. They could have done something other than what they did to the Palestinians, which was to cause them to live in squallor and hopelessness in the first place. Squallor and hopelessness leads to hatred, and hatred was just what the arabs wanted the Palestinians to feel toward the Israelis.

So I kindly ask you, who do you think is more responsible for the Palestinian plight?

you are correct, the arabs have treated the palestinians much like we have treated blacks in our country. man's inhumanity to man knows no boundaries. here is what i wonder however, how does a nation, founded on religious principles mistreat anyone, jew or palestinian or arab? the middle east is a region that is not secular, faith plays a huge roll in the lives of the people, yet where is the behavior exemplifying those faiths? hatred and anger are in abundance.

i am saying that Israel should take responsibility, not because they SHOULD but because they CAN. do you see what i mean? do the right thing, even if you think it's not your "job". be the people who make it happen. figure out why and who is behind acts that detract from peace in the region and work it out. if arab forces are stirring up hate among palestinians, figure out a way to expose those actions and find a solution. violence met with more violence will only result in more violence. there will always be someone willing to sell you a weapon. choosing peace is never easy and most of us have trouble doing so in our daily lives. whenever we react in anger and retaliation to something we are displaying the potential to be a bomb thrower. it takes courage to live this way, but then again, faith is supposed to help us live courageously. your bible is full of examples of courage gained from faith.

religion is supposed to help us master our own minds and emotions. it is supposed to help us help each other see our inherent humanity and work towards achieving our highest potentials. maybe the messiah will come when jew and muslim brothers and sisters see each other as such,.i don't believe in messiahs but i feel that for us to live in peace in this world, this is what it will take.

what you believe yourself to be in a religious sense is meaningless if it prevents you from seeing those different from you as anything but equal to you. we are all interconnected and we suffer when we fail to recognize this reality. a single person can stop a lot of hate, just like a single person can start a lot of hate. i say, be the former person. hate is not the answer.

You are correct when you say man's inhumanity toward man knows no bounds. The inhumanity toward the Palestinians should have stopped dead in its tracks right after Israel's war for independence. The Arab's could have, and should have, assimilated the Palestinian refugees into their countries, but they didn't because of their hatred toward Jews. They wanted to keep the Palestinians as an open sore to use against Israel.

The Palestinians could have, and should have returned to their homes. UN Resolution 194 gave them that right, as well as recognizing Israel's right to exist. Again hate got in the way.

It's surprising what hate can do. I mourn for all parties concerned, because I know what's coming, and it's not going to be very pretty. Yet it will also cause the hate to cease, and Israelis, Palestinians, and Arabs will finally realize they are brothers.

The world will soon turn against all of them, causing them for the first time to unite. Tensions in the Middle East are high, and Muslim terrorism only adds to that melting pot. It has also become a global problem that will soon get out of hand, and cause governments to go mad with revenge. There will be a major attack. Perhap an attack that is well coordinated on a global scale, but it is coming. It's in the works. If you think al Qaeda is dead, think again. They are networked with many other terrorist cells and organizations around the world. They're waiting for the right moment, and Obama is about to give them the moment they desire. But I digress.

While both the Israelis and Arabs share responsibility for the Palestinian plight, the Palestinians are just as responsibile for themselves. They have been handed so many opportunities that they have refused to take, or that they've managed to screw up in some way or another. There comes a time when you become responsible for yourself, and your own actions. That time has finally come for the Palestinians.

Israel wants nothing more than to be recognized as a Jewish state. Yet this is such a hard thing for so many to fathom it would seem. What the Palestinians want is no Jewish state. This can clearly be seen in the Hamas Charter, the Khartoum Resolutions,and the Palestinian National Charter. All are, for the most part, still relevant. All call for the destruction of Israel as a state. So few people seem to understand this. Instead most say the Palestinians have a right to self determination. While this is true, they also have a right to do it in a responsible way. Self determination through violence and terrorism will not work. It hasn't worked in all the years the Palestinians have tried it. It has only caused them setback after setback.

If real peace is to be attained, and a two state solution to be resolved, then all violence must stop, and all hate must end. Otherwise all you have is a vicious circle of madness that has no solution. Both sides must be willing to make concessions.

To morob999....

In the bible it talks about all the things mentioned above AND MORE.IT also says that God will bless those who bless Israel......You either seriously do not pay attention to the world around you ro you are just an idiot....

Hey Magi.

Why would anyone want to incorporate a bunch of crazy troublemakers into their society unless.like our traitor potus wahts to detsroy from within....