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This idea is important so that we know we have a legitimate man pretending to be at the helm of our country.

Good Question! Where is the Birth Certificate and academic records?

I was skeptical at first...Now, since seeing people addressing the years of lies and corruption, I am confident that he is totally capable of successfully presiding over this nation...and, I don't care where he was born...why? Bush just kept smiling and did not do much that was notable or significant to really make a difference for this country, yet, Obama, who appears to be a truly caring, nurturing type of human being comes along and omg just because the Republicans lost this time, we have to hear, "where's the birth certificate?", Does this mean that the President has been soo good to us that you can't find anything else to get on him?

Where does the request for academic records come from? Is it anything other than a fishing expedition for some snippet of information the president's opponents could use to embarrass him?

To creeky

It comes from the idea that,looking into his past of where he lived and,where he went to school will show ....if he was a citizen here or there oh, and, where he was born.....the paper trail will show us if he is a naturalized citizen or not.....He is trying very hrd to keep this a secret....He is not running his own business that he started with his own money.....Of course, when he's finished .....Im sure he'll have a bonifide pink slip to ownership of th whole U.S.A.

The Constitution of the United States of America requires that an elected President be a "natural born" citizen. This is not innuendo.

There is not a requirement that a 'candidate' be a "natural born" citizen, but if elected President the candidate has to be a "natural born" citizen of the United States of America.

Is the Constitution not more important than an election?

creeksneakers,

To also answer your question, when Obama was going to different higher education schools, he was most getting money from the government. They always ask you what country you're a resident of. I'm figuring that Obama doesn't want to show those records because those records will most likely show Obama himself saying he's a resident of another country. I'm figuring that Obama has said he was a resident of Kenya or Indonesia in order to get himself some money, thereby, making him a liar either to get government money to go to school or to get himself elected as President.

The better question is - Why is not important to you? It should not be a big deal. Release it already.

I am [79] years old and have observed much over the years. Most everyone has heard the observation, “If it looks like a DUCK, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it probably is a DUCK”. May I add this to your collection, “If it acts like a FRAUD, has operated under many aliases, hides information about its education, selective service registration, country of birth, it probably is a FRAUD”.

If Obama applied for government tuition assistance and declared himself a foreigner he would have received little or no money. If Obama got money to go to college, that's proof he didn't describe himself as a foreigner.

creeksnearker:

You're incorrect. There are many grants and governmental programs that give education money to people who are residences of different countries. I'm making the assumption that Obama leaped on to some of those programs as a resident from other countries, and that is why he's keeping his educational records non-"transparent."

For a President that seems to be so adamant about "transparency," he can start that transparency with his own life and all of these questions and concerns would be put to rest.

There are not government programs that sponsor foreign students, except for a lucky few. The Hubert Humphrey scholaship program helps about 150. That's about it.

If you feel Obama was eligible for private grants, I'd ask that you provide links to them. (transparency)

"Financial Assistance Guide for International Students

The U.S. government does not provide student assistance to non-citizens, except in the limited cases of federal exchange programs and some research opportunities. However, there may be other resources available."

http://www.usa.gov/visitors/study.shtml

A student who declared himself a foreigner would not be eligible for Pell Grants or student loans.

Could an aid source for foreigners be better than Pell Grants and student loans?

" The total number of full scholarships available each year to incoming international students in the United States is about 1,000, offered by only about 100 colleges."

"International Awards: International students also ask about financial assistance from foundations, organizations, and the U.S. government. Very little aid exists through such sources, and it is usually earmarked for advanced graduate students."

"Loans: In limited instances, you may be able to negotiate a loan to fund part of your educational costs" (Probably private loans at much higher interest rates and on far less favorable terms)

http://educationusa.state.gov/home/financial-assistance

It wouldn't make sense for Obama to trade away all the advantages of American citizenship to go after the very slim possibility that he might get money as a foreigner.

Then what do you surmise is the reason that Obama will not release any of his college records?

I still say that Obama put himself as a resident of another country on his college records in order to receive money. I can't think of another reason why Obama doesn't want his college records released and also his birth certificate. He doesn't want to confirm what is being speculated about and he doesn't want to show inconsistencies regarding residency. That's my speculation. I'd love to hear what your reasoning is as to why Obama won't release his college records nor his real birth certificate.

There are several areas that offer non-residents money for college.

I don't expect Obama to supply the birthers with anything.

The birthers made the rule that they can accuse Obama with no evidence at all. They say Obama has to prove his innocence. Those are witch hunt rules. If Obama obliges requests, he's signaling his acceptance of those crooked rules.

Once the test is for Obama to prove his innocence he can never win. If he submits transcripts that don't incriminate him, the birthers will just say they are forgeries, or the schools were involved in a cover up. Meanwhile, the birthers would continue to make up more accusations and demand more proof for more things.

If Obama recognizes the birthers, it will become big news. More of his enemies would appoint themselves as jurors. The thrill of pressuring and bending a US president would excite his enemies. They'd all want to join in. It would keep getting bigger and worse.

When there is a witch hunt, every meaningless detail would be used against him. Suppose he lost one of transcripts? They'd definitely say he was hiding something.

As it stands now, nobody is listening to the birthers. He doesn't have to prove anything. Why open a witch hunt nightmare by recognizing the birthers?

A NOTE: It is flawed logic often used in conspiracy theories that because one can't answer a question about a detail they must accept the far fetched explanation offered by the theory's author. Questions can be asked endlessly, and if the game gets covered on cable, they will be.

A good example of this was the "how could they make the lines so geometrically accurate" question that was used to push the crop circles hoax.

There's no "rule" that is being asked for. What is being asked for is "transparency" by Obama showing his birth certificate and school records. This is especially important since Obama wants to be the "transparent" administration; yet he doesn't feel he needs to be transparent.

Obama is the "do as I say not as I do" administration. Obama wants everyone else to be transparent, but doesn't feel he needs to be transparent.

Obama provided the proof. You won't accept it. You demand more. That's a demand that he prove his innocence.

It has nothing to do with "transparency." Transparency doesn't mean that a mob of his enemies can demand endless proof that every accusation they can think up is false and then submit more proof because the mob finds some far fetched excuse of why the first submissions weren't proof.

Transparency means that the put budgets on the net and stuff like that.

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Dear Friend of the Constitution,

Update on The biggest political cover up in American history

Worse than Watergate, Whitewatergate, or any of the other cover ups of previous administrations, is the question of whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States of America... OR, is he a FRAUD, a USURPER, a man with no legal authority to sit in the position that he now claims to hold?

Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest RIGHT NOW by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON'T! Instead, he has had teams of attorneys all over the country, fighting "tooth and nail" to thwart the efforts of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF), and our allies in a number of states, to compel him to produce an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to serve as President of these United States!

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Ohio, Mississippi, Hawaii, and California! These are the states where USJF has been involved in lawsuits seeking an answer to this critical constitutional question!

And now, in California, just like in every lawsuit filed over this issue, the Obama team of attorneys, working with liberal allies in the office of California Attorney General Jerry Brown, has convinced a Sacramento County Superior Court judge to dismiss USJF's suit to force the truth to come out about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born" citizen, and, therefore, eligible to serve as President of the United States.

BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING UP! Our clients in this case, including 2008 candidate for President of the United States, Alan Keyes, have given USJF the go ahead to file an appeal of this decision!

AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO -- BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP TO DO IT!

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A number of apologists for Barack Obama have gone to great lengths to belittle USJF and our allies in the fight to preserve our Constitution. However, the questions that they cannot answer are:

If Barack Hussein Obama has nothing to hide, WHY doesn't he just make his real birth certificate public? WHY has he spent a almost $900,000.00 in attorney fees, for, among other things, fighting USJF's efforts to obtain his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The more that he fights these efforts to see this document, the more that you have to wonder, WHY?

Obama supporters want everyone to believe that only "fringies," the people that they now call "birthers," in other words, only people that they claim are outside of the main stream of thinking, question whether Mr. Obama is truly eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. But the truth of the matter is that more and more people, including many federal, state, and local elected officials, AND many in the military, are questioning whether Barack Hussein Obama is, indeed, a "natural born citizen," a Constitutional requirement for him to serve as President of these United States.

The citizens of this country have the right to know if Barack Obama is, indeed, eligible to serve as President! And we here at the United States Justice Foundation are going to take our lawsuit all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary, to find out the answer to this critical question.

This fight to discover the truth will be neither easy nor inexpensive, but isn't protecting the Constitution worth it? And that is exactly what this legal battle is all about,

PROTECTING THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION!

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Barack Obama wants you to ignore what he is doing, he wants you to ignore the U.S. Constitution, he wants you to think that the parts of the Constitution that he does not agree with (like the requirements to serve as President) are unimportant.

In effect, he wants to destroy the U. S. Constitution and reshape this country into his own image of what he wants it to be.

And Barack Obama's attorneys have now taken another big step to destroy the Constitution of the United States -- this time in a California State Court. Those attorneys, working with liberal California State Attorney General Jerry Brown, convinced the Judge in our case to rule that only Members of Congress can challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, or any candidate, to serve as President.

And, the Judge further ruled that such a challenge could only be made on the 6th day of January following the meeting of the Presidential electors, at the session of Congress where the vote of the Electoral College is counted and the results announced. To use the Judge's words, this is "the exclusive means for challenges to the qualifications of President..."

That means that no one, except a Member of Congress, and only on one certain day of the year following the Presidential election, can challenge the qualifications of a President-Elect! And then, the challenge can only be successful if a majority of the Members of Congress support the challenge! And that means that the politicians, not the people, are in control of who becomes President if there is an eligibility issue!

Is that what you want? Do you believe that the majority party in both Houses of Congress should be deciding who is eligible to serve as President? Do you want Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid deciding who is President?

That means that the requirements of the U. S. Constitution as to the eligibility of the man or woman who runs for President to serve as President are meaningless!

Do you believe that the Constitution is a meaningless document? Do you believe that a majority of the Members of Congress have the right to ignore it? To render it of no force and effect?

The Trial Court Judge in our case did! But we are not going to accept his decision. We are not going to accept the legal arguments made by Barack Hussein Obama's attorneys, and those by attorneys from liberal California Attorney General Jerry Brown. We are going to keep fighting this monumentally important legal battle all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary.

IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST FIGHT!

IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST WIN!

IT'S A BATTLE THAT WILL DECIDE WHETHER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL REMAIN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, OR WHETHER WE WILL JOIN THE DUST HEAP OF HISTORY AS JUST ANOTHER FAILED EXPERIMENT!

USJF IS IN A BATTLE THAT COULD CHANGE THE HISTORY OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY! -- but we need YOUR help to WIN!

IT'S A BATTLE TO SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!

IT'S A BATTLE TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY!

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We MUST learn the truth about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen!

But to blunt our efforts to learn the truth, the Trial Court also blocked our subpoena for the college records of Mr. Obama! These vital records could have proven whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States, or whether he is a USURPER, a FRAUD, sitting in the oval office without any legal authority to do so!

What is in those records? We do not know. But the Obama legal team pulled out all of the stops to block the subpoena, so we believe that there is something in those college records that bears on the critical issue of whether Barack Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States.

JUST LIKE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY THE OBAMA LEGAL TEAM, ACCORDING TO A PUBLISHED REPORT, HAS BEEN PAID OVER $800,000.00, and as much as almost $900,000.00, TO KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM SEEING HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE -- NOT THE PHONEY ONE THAT HE PUT UP ON HIS WEBSITE.

There is no doubt in my mind that this e-mail may be the one of the most important documents that you ever read!

What you do after reading this e-mail may well determine the fate of the United States of America!

Please know that we are not saying that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. The problem is we just do not know!

We do know that Barack Obama's maternal step-grandmother has proclaimed that she was present at his birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, in Africa!

We do know that a fake birth certificate was put up on Obama's website!

We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in every case filed over this issue; to make sure that no one has access to his birth certificate.

We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in our California case; to make sure that no one has access to his college records.

DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!

HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM

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The voters of the United States of America have the right to know whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen," as REQUIRED by the U. S. Constitution!

It's a question that MUST be answered!

Why? Because, if an unqualified person was elected to the Office of President of the United States, our entire form of government could be compromised!

Why?

Because, if Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States, each and every act that he takes as President will be null and void! That's right, each bill that he signs into law, every Executive Order that he issues, and each and every one of his nominations to his Cabinet and to the federal courts will have no legal effect!

I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration.

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution provides, in pertinent part, as follows: "No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President..."

That means that neither Osama Bin Laden, nor California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, nor Obama billionaire money man George Soros can serve as President of the United States. That also means that if Barack Obama was born outside of the United States, he is not eligible to serve as President of our great country!

So where was Mr. Obama born?

He claims to have a copy of his birth certificate. That means that either he knows where he was born, or he's lying about having that document.

And only Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question of where he was born. But he has teams of attorneys, all across the country, spending, and doing, whatever it takes to make sure that no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be allowed to see the one document that can clear up this controversy

Mr. Obama has claimed that his Presidential administration will be the most transparent in history. Yet, he will not make public the one document that could end all of the questions about the legitimacy of his election as President.

And you have to ask yourself, WHY?

Is it because this is some unimportant "technicality"? No, a requirement of the U. S. Constitution is not a mere "technicality"!

Is it because "President" Obama (if he is the President of the United States) has more important issues to deal with, and can't spare the time to deal with such a trivial issue? No, what is more important than the integrity of the Office of the President?

Or, is there something more involved?

Another question that the Obamaphiles don't want to answer is why, in 2005, was a law firm with ties to Mr. Obama researching the question as to how to evade the requirements of Article II of the United States Constitution, regarding the requirements to serve as President. 2005? Three years before the Presidential campaign?

If that doesn't raise questions in your mind, then nothing will!

And then there's the statements made by representatives of the State of Hawaii!

According to Dr. Chiyome Fukino, of the State of Hawaii's Department of Health,

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Exactly what does that mean? If she can access it, why can't we? It is that very record that USJF financed lawsuits in Mississippi and in Hawaii were seeking to force into the public arena! But Obama's attorneys, and his allies in state government, stopped those efforts cold!

So, the time of decision is now!

Do we give up?

Do we just ignore this threat to our Constitution? To our very form of government?

We here at USJF say NO!

Now is not the time to give up this fight!

Now is not the time to walk away from the most important Constitutional battle in our lifetime!

Now is the time to redouble our efforts to find out the truth!

Now is the time to tell Barack Hussein Obama that the United States Constitution is far more important than his political ambition!

But we can only do this with your help! With your financial support, and with the financial support of everyone that you know!

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Will you stand with us?

Sincerely,

Gary Kreep, Executive Director

United States Justice Foundation

P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen... IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!

Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution. DON'T LET HIM DO IT!

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