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You are right, it is SO simple! But now, even CBS is helping to keep it tightly sealed.

"CBS Outdoor, a division of CBS Corp. that sells more outdoor advertising than any other billboard company in North America, refuses to accept purchases of space on any of its 550,000 displays nationwide, media buyers for WND report."

What law can you cite that REQUIRES him to show his long form BC? You only have your request and the muted voices of about 300 other birfers.

The BC he has shown is legal tender. What you are asking for is not really germaine. I think it's a good thing that he ignores you.

black, you're actually arguing against transparency? How delightful.

Article 2, Section 1 of the United States Constitution:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

JummyZ, Actually I am FOR transparency. It's idiocy I'm opposed to.

The man has produced his BC. You don't accept it. That's fine. His campaign opponents accepted it as legal tender. They are the ones who had standing to complain. None of the lawsuits requesting his BC have gained traction because they lack standing.

And OMT. Transparency isn't law. LAW is law. Can you cite a law which requires him to produce his school records or BC to YOUR satisfaction? No. You can't.

triumph, that's pretty sad - trying to convince Obama supporters with the Constitution. Dreamer!

triumphofsteel,

You've cited the Constitution. He's met those criteria. Your problem is that you don't accept the documents he's produced. BUT YOUR ACCEPTANCE ISN'T WHAT'S REQUIRED, UNLESS YOUR REAL NAME IS JOHN MCCAIN.

black, you either know very well that he did not produce a birth certificate and you are lying, or you don't know what a birth certificate is.

Which is it?

Who was the doctor who delivered baby Obama?

Can you tell me?

"Who was the doctor who delivered baby Obama?

Can you tell me? "

I don't know the doctor who delivered ME. Why should I care who delivered Obama? What LAW can you cite which entitles you to either bit of information?

black, a REAL birth certificate contains that information. Since you don't KNOW, that proves you have never seen a real birth certificate.

Thanks for playing.

It should be on the certificate of live birth. It's on mine. I am done arguing.

"black, a REAL birth certificate contains that information. Since you don't KNOW, that proves you have never seen a real birth certificate"

I've seen what the government accepts as legal. I've seen what got me my passport. In court, what's legal is the only game in town. Your comments about what he OUGHT to produce get trumped by what the government says he is obligated to produce.

black, the certificate of live birth is NOT a Birth Certificate. The man has not shown us that he is a legitimate President.

JimmyZ: "black, the certificate of live birth is NOT a Birth Certificate. The man has not shown us that he is a legitimate President. "

Read my lips: HE DIDN'T HAVE TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING. Not a dadburn thing. The only person(s) who he had the legal right to see his documentation were McCain and Hillary. That's what the law says, because those two were the only people who could challenge his papers.

There has never been a single time that 0bama has stated the document on the web was his, came from his files, or is accurate. The birth document written about in his bio is old and wrinkled according to the description. The document posted on the web appears to be in very good condition.

I wonder why anyone would believe the document is accurate if 0bama can't even say so?

Listen to yourself. You are arguing for non-transparency. You are arguing against being honest and straight up with the American people. You are saying we do not have a right to verify the eligibility of our leaders, esp the President who must be a natural born citizen of the United States.

Where were YOU born??

Obama's eligibility has already been certified by the State of Hawaii. This has been a non-issue since well before the election. If you think it's such an important issue, then keep harping on it as you have been, and see if you get any traction between now and election day 2012. I predict the vast majority of the voting public will continue to see this for exactly the non-issue it is. You don't pander to crackpots, lest you encourage them to keep pestering you. This whole birth certificate non-issue is only of interest to those already disposed to believe there is something "foreign" about Barack Obama, and in doing so they only reveal their prejudices and racism. So by all means, keep harping, wingnuts.

VD - That's not true. No one has verified where Mr. Obama was born.

Traction? See you in 2010.

VD please link me to the time 0bama claimed the document on the web was accurate. Thank you.

Oh my, that's really going to leave a mark - asking a liberal democrat for a citation.

"Listen to yourself. You are arguing for non-transparency. You are arguing against being honest and straight up with the American people. You are saying we do not have a right to verify the eligibility of our leaders, esp the President who must be a natural born citizen of the United States."

No one's "arguing for non-transparency" nor "against being honest and straight up with the American people." The point is that Obama's eligibility is already legally established. Else why did not one of the legal challenges go anywhere? THAT is the critical question you conspiracy theorists keep evading.

"Listen to yourself. You are arguing for non-transparency. You are arguing against being honest and straight up with the American people. You are saying we do not have a right to verify the eligibility of our leaders, esp the President who must be a natural born citizen of the United States."

No one's "arguing for non-transparency" nor "against being honest and straight up with the American people." The point is that Obama's eligibility is already legally established. Else why did not one of the legal challenges go anywhere? THAT is the critical question you conspiracy theorists keep evading.

Frankly, when it's a bunch of right wing nuts - and I know they're right wing nuts because they swarmed over here from WND - getting all exercised about this, it's easy to see the agenda at work. It isn't about "transparency" or the Constitution at all.

"please link me to the time 0bama claimed the document on the web was accurate."

You're the expert on this, I have no idea whether Obama has even commented on this non-issue. Why should he have? His legal standing is clear.

No one but you.

There has never been a time when he claimed it is his, why do you think it is?

He has no expectation of privacy regarding his qualifications, why do you think he does?

he wrote about the birth certificate in his book and the State of Hawaii made public mention of the document, thus, he cannot expect it to remain secret.

Amazing to compare these completely baseless accusations to the very real abuses of the Constitution which occurred during the Bush administration. OT, but just saying ...

What's not OT is that, if you wingnuts really believed you had a case, you'd file a lawsuit.

Oh wait, you mean you already did? How did that go again?

We know exactly where 43 presidents were born.

For him to claim his birth is some secret is to stretch credulity.

Let's see if VD can find one time that 0bama said that the document on the web was his or is accurate.

"Let's see if VD can find one time that 0bama said that the document on the web was his or is accurate."

As long as you can keep creating your own benchmark, you can make a case for just about anything. Fortunately, Obama has already met the only benchmark that counts, and the crackpots and wingnuts are just engaged in a massive waste of time.

Better that plotting violence, but since these king-babies aren't going to get get their way, some of them will probably do that soon enough. Darn shame. They should just grow up and save us all the grief.

If Obama is found to be an illegal immigrant or something short of the Constitutional requirement, then everything he has done since inauguration will be voided. And most of it will be like putting toothpaste back in the tube--a big mess. This needs to be settled soon.

If this is supposed to be a BHO comments website, you can see his concern with the First Amendment is just as distainful as he is for the Second.

Actually, no. Voiding all of it will be easy. And delightful.

The only usurper in the White House was G.W. Bush 2001-2005.

Once the SCOTUS ruled, however, Bush was president, and that was that.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-birth-certificate1dec08,0,7258812.story

The SCOTUS may not always get it right, but if you claim to adhere to the Constitution, you must abide by their decisions.

Your "birther' movement is nothing but a dumb joke.

VD - LOLOLOLOL!!! ROTFLMFAOWREATSDMC! STILL you are whining about losing, and Bush's successful defense against sore-losers Algore and democrats trying to STEAL the election by cherry picking recounts (an art since fine tuned by Al Franken)?

You are still arguing against having the truth revealed.

See VD. See VD argue against having the truth of Obama's birthplace revealed.

VD is a liberal.

Any questions?

Why is it your movement loses every legal case you file?

"You are still arguing against having the truth revealed."

Au contraire - Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. Boring, simple, true.

There is no Birth Certificate proving that he was born in Hawaii, and in fact, you are arguing against having his birthplace revealed.

You are a liberal.

Case closed.

Any questions?

Sure, the question YOU still can't answer, because to answer it is to admit you don't have a leg to stand on.

All you have is 'we don't have to show you something that might end up making Obama ineligible.' *L*

So Vote Dem - what was your big idea? Oh that's right - just attack others.

This amuses me, why are these people so vehemently against the birth certificate? Are they afraid their man might possibly be ineligible? By the way, I hated Bush. I also hated McCain. I hate the Republican and Democrat parties. Neither can get their act together and both have miserably failed us. So please don't group me in with either. I love my country and only want the truth FOR ONCE!!!

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Worse than Watergate, Whitewatergate, or any of the other cover ups of previous administrations, is the question of whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States of America... OR, is he a FRAUD, a USURPER, a man with no legal authority to sit in the position that he now claims to hold?

Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest RIGHT NOW by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON'T! Instead, he has had teams of attorneys all over the country, fighting "tooth and nail" to thwart the efforts of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF), and our allies in a number of states, to compel him to produce an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to serve as President of these United States!

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Ohio, Mississippi, Hawaii, and California! These are the states where USJF has been involved in lawsuits seeking an answer to this critical constitutional question!

And now, in California, just like in every lawsuit filed over this issue, the Obama team of attorneys, working with liberal allies in the office of California Attorney General Jerry Brown, has convinced a Sacramento County Superior Court judge to dismiss USJF's suit to force the truth to come out about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born" citizen, and, therefore, eligible to serve as President of the United States.

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A number of apologists for Barack Obama have gone to great lengths to belittle USJF and our allies in the fight to preserve our Constitution. However, the questions that they cannot answer are:

If Barack Hussein Obama has nothing to hide, WHY doesn't he just make his real birth certificate public? WHY has he spent a almost $900,000.00 in attorney fees, for, among other things, fighting USJF's efforts to obtain his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The more that he fights these efforts to see this document, the more that you have to wonder, WHY?

Obama supporters want everyone to believe that only "fringies," the people that they now call "birthers," in other words, only people that they claim are outside of the main stream of thinking, question whether Mr. Obama is truly eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. But the truth of the matter is that more and more people, including many federal, state, and local elected officials, AND many in the military, are questioning whether Barack Hussein Obama is, indeed, a "natural born citizen," a Constitutional requirement for him to serve as President of these United States.

The citizens of this country have the right to know if Barack Obama is, indeed, eligible to serve as President! And we here at the United States Justice Foundation are going to take our lawsuit all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary, to find out the answer to this critical question.

This fight to discover the truth will be neither easy nor inexpensive, but isn't protecting the Constitution worth it? And that is exactly what this legal battle is all about,

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Barack Obama wants you to ignore what he is doing, he wants you to ignore the U.S. Constitution, he wants you to think that the parts of the Constitution that he does not agree with (like the requirements to serve as President) are unimportant.

In effect, he wants to destroy the U. S. Constitution and reshape this country into his own image of what he wants it to be.

And Barack Obama's attorneys have now taken another big step to destroy the Constitution of the United States -- this time in a California State Court. Those attorneys, working with liberal California State Attorney General Jerry Brown, convinced the Judge in our case to rule that only Members of Congress can challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, or any candidate, to serve as President.

And, the Judge further ruled that such a challenge could only be made on the 6th day of January following the meeting of the Presidential electors, at the session of Congress where the vote of the Electoral College is counted and the results announced. To use the Judge's words, this is "the exclusive means for challenges to the qualifications of President..."

That means that no one, except a Member of Congress, and only on one certain day of the year following the Presidential election, can challenge the qualifications of a President-Elect! And then, the challenge can only be successful if a majority of the Members of Congress support the challenge! And that means that the politicians, not the people, are in control of who becomes President if there is an eligibility issue!

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That means that the requirements of the U. S. Constitution as to the eligibility of the man or woman who runs for President to serve as President are meaningless!

Do you believe that the Constitution is a meaningless document? Do you believe that a majority of the Members of Congress have the right to ignore it? To render it of no force and effect?

The Trial Court Judge in our case did! But we are not going to accept his decision. We are not going to accept the legal arguments made by Barack Hussein Obama's attorneys, and those by attorneys from liberal California Attorney General Jerry Brown. We are going to keep fighting this monumentally important legal battle all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary.

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IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST WIN!

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We MUST learn the truth about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen!

But to blunt our efforts to learn the truth, the Trial Court also blocked our subpoena for the college records of Mr. Obama! These vital records could have proven whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States, or whether he is a USURPER, a FRAUD, sitting in the oval office without any legal authority to do so!

What is in those records? We do not know. But the Obama legal team pulled out all of the stops to block the subpoena, so we believe that there is something in those college records that bears on the critical issue of whether Barack Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States.

JUST LIKE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY THE OBAMA LEGAL TEAM, ACCORDING TO A PUBLISHED REPORT, HAS BEEN PAID OVER $800,000.00, and as much as almost $900,000.00, TO KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM SEEING HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE -- NOT THE PHONEY ONE THAT HE PUT UP ON HIS WEBSITE.

There is no doubt in my mind that this e-mail may be the one of the most important documents that you ever read!

What you do after reading this e-mail may well determine the fate of the United States of America!

Please know that we are not saying that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. The problem is we just do not know!

We do know that Barack Obama's maternal step-grandmother has proclaimed that she was present at his birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, in Africa!

We do know that a fake birth certificate was put up on Obama's website!

We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in every case filed over this issue; to make sure that no one has access to his birth certificate.

We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in our California case; to make sure that no one has access to his college records.

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The voters of the United States of America have the right to know whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen," as REQUIRED by the U. S. Constitution!

It's a question that MUST be answered!

Why? Because, if an unqualified person was elected to the Office of President of the United States, our entire form of government could be compromised!

Why?

Because, if Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States, each and every act that he takes as President will be null and void! That's right, each bill that he signs into law, every Executive Order that he issues, and each and every one of his nominations to his Cabinet and to the federal courts will have no legal effect!

I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration.

Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution provides, in pertinent part, as follows: "No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President..."

That means that neither Osama Bin Laden, nor California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, nor Obama billionaire money man George Soros can serve as President of the United States. That also means that if Barack Obama was born outside of the United States, he is not eligible to serve as President of our great country!

So where was Mr. Obama born?

He claims to have a copy of his birth certificate. That means that either he knows where he was born, or he's lying about having that document.

And only Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question of where he was born. But he has teams of attorneys, all across the country, spending, and doing, whatever it takes to make sure that no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be allowed to see the one document that can clear up this controversy

Mr. Obama has claimed that his Presidential administration will be the most transparent in history. Yet, he will not make public the one document that could end all of the questions about the legitimacy of his election as President.

And you have to ask yourself, WHY?

Is it because this is some unimportant "technicality"? No, a requirement of the U. S. Constitution is not a mere "technicality"!

Is it because "President" Obama (if he is the President of the United States) has more important issues to deal with, and can't spare the time to deal with such a trivial issue? No, what is more important than the integrity of the Office of the President?

Or, is there something more involved?

Another question that the Obamaphiles don't want to answer is why, in 2005, was a law firm with ties to Mr. Obama researching the question as to how to evade the requirements of Article II of the United States Constitution, regarding the requirements to serve as President. 2005? Three years before the Presidential campaign?

If that doesn't raise questions in your mind, then nothing will!

And then there's the statements made by representatives of the State of Hawaii!

According to Dr. Chiyome Fukino, of the State of Hawaii's Department of Health,

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Exactly what does that mean? If she can access it, why can't we? It is that very record that USJF financed lawsuits in Mississippi and in Hawaii were seeking to force into the public arena! But Obama's attorneys, and his allies in state government, stopped those efforts cold!

So, the time of decision is now!

Do we give up?

Do we just ignore this threat to our Constitution? To our very form of government?

We here at USJF say NO!

Now is not the time to give up this fight!

Now is not the time to walk away from the most important Constitutional battle in our lifetime!

Now is the time to redouble our efforts to find out the truth!

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P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen... IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!

Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution. DON'T LET HIM DO IT!

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Despicable right wing extremist rumor mongers like the freak show known as "Human Events" can be, must be, and will be defeated in the arena of facts. You lie, and lie, and lie, and soon the whole world will know how utterly discredited the far right really is. There is no "disagreement," no "debate." You are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Attacking the messenger never works. The mustard is coming off of the hot dog, ding dong:

"Obama's overall approval index on Rasmussen continues to be very volatile, it is clear that people are becoming nervous.

Only 15% of Republicans think his stimulus is helping the economy. Only 22% of unaffiliated voters say it has helped and only 52% of Democrats think so.

Overall, only 31% of Americans now think the plan will work and that is down from 45% in January. People are starting to become more pessimistic. Once that pessimism begins to harden, the dems are toast.

A few more bad unemployment numbers should do the trick."

The "messenger" you speak of is nothing but a gang of spammer freeloaders. There's no way the more prolific among you can possibly be gainfully employed, and you're sure not doing anything useful. I work for a living, and when I have a moment to return, look who's right here, same as when I left. Who's paying you? Scaife? Farah? We taxpayers?

so says you. *L* why don't you quote what was said, and refute it instead?

and then you attack me? Get a grip. Look at what I posted just then - the American people are slow to anger, but Obama's going to get them very angry. We're already on the way to that day, thankfully.

Refute some of this, will you.... unless...?

you got nuthin'.

You don't speak for the American people. You speak only for your cult of the birth certificate.

Once again, that's no answer, no substance, no rebuttal. Please stop talking about me. I am easily speaking for more Americans now, as the survey data from the country's most accurate pollster tells you.

Get to it... discuss the issues or hush up.

I've already said what's obvious about you. What's equally obvious is that the "Human Events" propaganda that's been spammed all over this site is absolutely full of BS. "We now know that ..." etc. What a load of garbage.

Look, you're wasting time, not least your own. I guess you don't value your own time, and that's too bad. I do value mine, so I'm not going to validate obvious propaganda by rebutting it more than once. Your conspiracy theory has already been soundly refuted, many times, in many places, by many sources. Now, it's nothing more than annoying spam. Please stop spamming this site with your dishonest propaganda. If you continue to spam this site, expect your repetitious spam to go where spam belongs: /dev/null.

You surrender. Fair enough.

I knew you would do that.

I should have predicted capitulation, at least.

LOL

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_scripts/knight.php

Let us know when an actual court or even a reputable media outlet finds anything to your spurious story. Heck, even Fox would do.

And no, silly irrelevant "questions" that "everybody" (LOL) wants answered don't count. "Everybody" in this case doesn't amount to more than the most hardened, kookiest deceieved dittoheads out there, 2.5% of the population - maybe. You can spam all day and all night for weeks, and your little cult can keep signing up with new email addresses, but the dull repetition of the spam and the sheer nonsensicality of your sources only goes to prove the poverty of your case. When all is said and done, yours is the Cult of the birth certificate obsessed sore losers.

"I am easily speaking for more Americans now, as the survey data from the country's most accurate pollster tells you."

Did that poll ask about the birth certificate non-issue? Or are you just trying to pull a shell game? Because I don't see it listed among your percentages in your post.

So typical of you irrational dittoheads, thinking that because your thinking is so sloppy, everyone else's must be too.

Your posts that prattle on about the court progress do not answer the question. You and the president are unwilling to hear the truth.

I get that.

I know why.

So you advocate against transparency, as does Mr. Obama. So it goes - liberals are nothing if not consistent.

This gets back to the original reason why Obama doesn't cater to your every whim - you're from the World Nut Daily, Freep, "Human Events" right wing faction. All of the "birthers" are. Show me one credible challenge to Obama's eligibility - you can't, because there isn't one. This has nothing to do with transparency. It has to do with catering to crackpots. Doing so only encourages them.

"You and the president are unwilling to hear the truth."

What a funny statement, coming from you.

All you have is incessant allegations with no basis in fact whatsoever. There is no truth to be found in the birther cult whatsoever.

Ah! So answering a question about Constitutionality is 'catering to whims' now. Gotcha. You really aren't too bright are you. Obama could finish it all with a simple release of his long form birth certificate, but no. He's depending on a highly questionable version, a short form that will not get the job done even in Hawaii! And you are ok with that because of your political persuasion. Pitiful. I have no respect for people like you. It's your agenda over the Constitution. This has EVERYTHING to do with transparency, and Obama has shown that he is not at all following up on what he told Americans he would be.

The only credible challenge you need is mine. Forget everyone else's. The bottom line is, he has not released his full birth certificate for a reason. ANY logical person would assume there is a problem with it. Many people born outside the US were given those Hawaii Certs of Live Birth in 1961 - the year he was born. So there is a problem and Obama is spending a LOT of money to keep the truth HIDDEN.

Again: Obama is spending a lot of money in order to keep the truth hidden.

The allegations are credible. The President would quash them in an instant with his birth certificate... unless... ?

;-)

All asked and answered. Your "challenge" isn't the least bit credible, all your delusions otherwise notwithstanding. And it's not "my" agenda "over the Constitution," Constitutional due process is what matters, not what you nor I nor anyone else scribbles on an internet message board. You've let your own sense of self-importance blow up your ego. No, _you_ are _not_ WE THE PEOPLE. We the people spoke at the ballot box on Nov 4, and we did so knowing full well that Obama's birth in Hawaii was already confirmed.

Since you insist on being a broken record, I ask you again, to name one single challenge, out of the huge multitude there have now been, to Obama's eligibility, that has gone anywhere at all in court. The reason not one of them has it that there is not a thing to these crackpot challenges. Even the SCOTUS yawned. Sounds like an Ayn Rand book, lol

Laughing! You haven't answer ANYTHING!

The allegation is that the President was not born here. There is NO evidence at this point that shows us that he was.

Go.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/03/06/federal-judge-tosses-another-obama-birth-certificate-lawsuit/

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2008/11/26/a-last-electoral-hurdle-for-obama/

But hey Jimmy Z Show, why don't you waste some MORE time, you've evidently got SO MUCH MORE to waste ...

Fighting for the truth is not a waste of time. Standing up to those who battle against our constitution - as you do - is never a waste of time. And the polling data and public reaction to huge increases in spending and debt show me that it is paying off. Soon enough, Americans are going to want to know if this clown is even eligible.

And all you will say is, "don't show your birth certificate Barack."

Through the looking glass as seen by The Jimmy Z Show: "... And all you will say is, "don't show your birth certificate Barack.""

He already did. He just didn't show you. Guess you're not as special as you've deluded yourself.

Now you're just lying, because I have told you, as have many others, that Obama has NEVER exhibited his birth certificate. So, you simply repeat your lie - and that's what you are doing, lying - because you have NOTHING else to offer.

No birth certificate has ever been produced, and that is a fact. I told you that the document he did produce doesn't even function as a birth certificate in all cases in the State of Hawaii, which ISSUED IT - fact.

And, again repeating myself (you liberals are so dense!), many people got the document Obama has shown, and they were not born in the United States. Fact.

So these three facts show us that Obama has a real problem, which is why he is spending a LOT of money, fighting having to produce his REAL birth certificate.

And now you will throw another hissy fit.

Not as much as you might think ;)

Maybe some of that billboard stimulus money is making its way to the Obama legal coffers as we speak :)

03/6/09

"The "Birthers" have lost another one:

Robertson [Judge, James] oredered plantiff's attourney John Hemenway of Colorado Srings, Co., to show why he hasn't violated court rules barring frivolous and harassing cases and shouldn't have to pay Obama's attorney, Bob Bauer, for his time arguing that the case should be thrown out.

The AP write up includes the priceless line:

In an argument popular on the Internet and taken seriously practically nowhere else, Obama's critics argue he is ineligible to be president because he is not a "natural-born citizen" as the Constitution requires.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/03/06/federal-judge-tosses-another-obama-birth-certificate-lawsuit/

Oh my.

Oops, you failed to address the issue again.

Only Cultists of the COLB believe that not granting the most fringe elements of the right wing media the access they demand to Obama's birth and other records is any sort of "issue." It certainly is not. Obama is duly certified to be president, and he is, in fact, president.

You, on the other hand, are, in your present guise, an annoying sort of entertainment, kind of like a noisy crying kid in a restaurant who becomes sort of endearing when he pours a glass of milk on his head.

No answer yet. You have been working very hard - like Obama - to avoid any answer to the question - and it is a valid one. It is a Constitutional one. Avoid it some more, Obamabot.