If Obama would be proved to be ineligible because he is not a natural born citizen, we assume Biden would become President. However, Biden was chosen by Obama, ran on a ticket that would have been ineligible, so I would assume there would have to be a new election. I think Biden would be President until this new election took place. Heaven help us with this problem too, Biden doesn't even know if a person is running for Governor or Presidency when he goes to help them ...... So what would happen? Are there any people who know what would happen. Who would be President or do we need a new election?
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Actually this situation is addressed in the 10th and 12th Ammendments to the US Constitution, and even if a "constitutional disability" arose due to Obama not categorized as being a "Natural Born Citizen" as prescribed, the Congress can "overcome" this "disability" by a simple 2/3 majority vote and he will remain President. Unpopular? Maybe, but still President.
That's why I don't understand exactly why Obama doesn't just get this over with, except that the people focusing on it are not paying as close attention to the other stuff he's doing.
At least we could cut the head off the snake.
http://www.impeachobama2010.org/index.html
The amount of unrest in this country, should Obama be proven ineligible, would be massive. Still, this country needs to face this issue or the Constitution is dead.
"Who cares what a bunch of powdered wigs said 200 years ago?" was what a leftwinger recently posted elsewhere.
CBS is worried:
"CBS Outdoor, a division of CBS Corp. that sells more outdoor advertising than any other billboard company in North America, refuses to accept purchases of space on any of its 550,000 displays nationwide, media buyers for WND report."
mesoooverrry, if this were true, Obama would have no fear, and release his birth certificate.
But, he remains fearful and continues to hide his birth certificate.
Why?
If Obama is an imposter then think about this for a minute. Treason will be more than just him. You are talking Congress, the news media, Democrats, Republicans, judges. You will have lawyers on both sides, through in Acorn, ACLU, etc. You get the picture. Treason! This will get ugly and you will see insurrection. There is a blind eye here, the lying media fall in love with Obama, and the nation did as well (only those fools who believe this crap). See there is more to this than you know. They don’t dare revile it now. They will be in big time trouble. They will do whatever they have to just to keep this shut.
Believe me when I tell you, there are just too many people who already know, and if they didn’t know then they are too stupid to be in charge or completely corrupt. Take your pick. The real enemy is from within. Get ready for a revolution if this is the case, I for one want to see the truth. Lord help us if he is an imposter. Nothing else will matter but their ass.
Therefore, prove Obama you are who you say you are, and all will be well. The truth will come out… Everyone in power will fight with their last breath not to revile the truth in this matter. Now you see why they will not show you, because it will be their last breath.
This Man who has a past that is not american, has fooled a great nation to vote for him,and all the moron americans ran to elect him to be president with out reading his past history that was against the american way and did not even prove his american proof of birth ,i've lost my trust in the gov. the supreme court and the media to let such a moron to get away with this and all the actions of Mr.Obama not president Obama until i see proof that he is american born
'too stupid to be in charge and totally corrupt.'
that's it in a nutshell.
Speaker of the House is third in line of presidential succession. That means our new President of the United States would probably be Nancy Pelosi.
The state of Hawaii has already said that YES, they have Obama's original birth certificate on file. This is really getting ridiculous.
Temporary perhaps. There would have to be a new election since the people and the democratic party were the victims of a fraud.
Dan, so they say they have it? Big deal. What does that mean? Where was he born?
"Dan, so they say they have it? Big deal. What does that mean? Where was he born? "
hawaii, according to his COLB, which you don't accept as legal. But, then again, your acceptance doesn't count, does it? How does is feel to have your opinion minimalized by the law?
the Certificate of Live Birth is not a Birth Certificate.
I have no interest in opinion. I only care about the truth.
"I have no interest in opinion. I only care about the truth."
Do you care about the law? You keep ignoring my invitations to cite laws which support your beliefs.
black, of course I do. It is YOU who is arguing against enforcing the Constitution of the United States, not me.
"black, of course I do. It is YOU who is arguing against enforcing the Constitution of the United States, not me."
Actually, I am absolutely in favor of enforcing the Constitution. If he's not a citizen, he should be recalled. But you haven't PROVED he's not a citizen. Your only argument is that he hasn't proved it to YOU. The LAW does not require him to prove it to YOU. The law requires him to prove it to the GOVERNMENT and to his competition.
In failing to accept that fact, it is YOU who is on the wrong side of the law, JimmyZ.
black, if you argue for enforcing the Constitution, you would be in favor of releasing the Birth Certificate once and for all.
You are not, thus you do not.
JimmyZ: "black, if you argue for enforcing the Constitution, you would be in favor of releasing the Birth Certificate once and for all.
You are not, thus you do not."
that's like saying "If you are anti-abortion, you ought not get pregnant." To a guy.
I wouldn't mind if he released his BC. I actually would like to see it. But I recognize that he is under no obligation to show it to us. That' the difference between you and me.
Excellent point black, the best way to prevent abortion is to not be getting pregnant until you're ready to have a family with a husband.
Well said.
"Excellent point black, the best way to prevent abortion is to not be getting pregnant until you're ready to have a family with a husband"
You've misread my analogy. I'm a guy. People ask me my stance on abortion. I have no stance. I can't. I can't even have a frame of reference. I can't get pregnant. that was my point.
My only question about the issue is, why can women have abortions on demand, but men who don't want to be parents can't? Why can't a man absolve himself of parental responsibilities just like a woman?
Few women are willing to tackle that one.
"You've misread my analogy. I'm a guy. People ask me my stance on abortion. I have no stance. I can't. I can't even have a frame of reference. I can't get pregnant. that was my point."
That's a brilliant cop out. Way to go.
am a pro-life woman and can tackle that..Women shouldn't dive out of the responsibility of pregnancy anymore than a man. Men or Women should not be practicing sex outside of marriage and neither should be practicing sex without taking on the responsibilty of the possibiltiy of getting pregnant, as no form of birth control is 100%. I got pregnant with an IUD AND using a condem, two forms of birth control. It was still my husband's and my responsibility.
Also, the more I learned about IUD's and what the doctors refuse to tell you is not good. I am 100% against IUDs now and the fact they try to abort the baby if it is created against its built in preventions. No abortion is okay. When is it okay to take a life, even if someone is raped? Should the woman just punish the soul brought to earth? Things happen sometimes, it doesn't mean our lives are any more important than to another of God's children who is supposed to come to Earth.
No one getting out of responsibility is okay. Just as B.O. has the responsibility for providing Americans transparency, he should provide a legitimate long-form birth certificate proving his right to be President. I just watched his hour-long speech in Egypt where he spoke once again this transparency and truth. Why can't he be forth-coming and honest about this? I am rapidly losing faith in government and our so-called leaders, like Pelosi, who continue to feed us lie after lie.
Speaker of the house would be acting Pres. All the more reason for a conservative landslide in 2010.
Hamletfamily: "No abortion is okay."
OK. Don't have one.
I've told you I can't speak on this issue. I'm, at best, indifferent. I'm male. There aren't many women's issues that catch my notice.
black, seriously, that's the lamest thing for any thinking person to write.
"black, seriously, that's the lamest thing for any thinking person to write."
Actually, its not. I also never memorize stuff that I can look up in a book or online. Why waste my limited CPU cycles on it?
I can't have children. Period. Abortion will never affect me, unless I cheat on my wife and don't use protection, like a moron. To me abortion is a non-issue since it doesn't affect me.
I am opposed to imposing my personal moral standards on other people, though. So, while I may be personally opposed to abortion (I am), I don't really care if other people do it. I am opposed to having the government tell them they can't. I am a Libertarian.
black, you rationalize not taking a stand on one of the most important issues of our day. That's so liberal.
"black, you rationalize not taking a stand on one of the most important issues of our day. That's so liberal. "
Jimmy, let me put it another way. I DON'T GIVE A SHEET ABOUT THE ISSUE. IT ISN'T EVEN A BLIP ON MY RADAR. IT'S ABOUT AS IMPORTANT AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COKE AND PEPSI. I DON'T FRIGGIN' CARE ABOUT ABORTION.
It may be an important issue to YOU. But it doesn't mean squat to me.
You wanna know what's important to me? Seatbelt laws and helmet laws which infringe on my right to be stupid.
That may sound shallow to YOU. But when people bring up abortion to me, i can't yawn quickly enough.
You don't give a damn about 4,000 dead babies a day? Even Obama said the number should be reduced (for some inexpicable reason considering his pro-infanticide position). So you don't care that 38% of all abortions are carried out in the black community in this country, mostly by planned parenthood - which was started by a racist seeking to diminish the number of blacks, and which is willing to take money from donors earmarked to abort black babies - all the while blacks are only about 12% of the population? Blacks are in effect committing self genocide and you don't care?
Very shallow indeed. Thoughtless too. Both liberal trademarks.
"You don't give a damn about 4,000 dead babies a day?"
Dead fetuses. Use the proper terminology.
Let me flip that script on you, since you brought up black people. Far more than 4,000 living, viable black African children die every day from AIDS and malnutrition.
Tens of thousands of Indians die every year from snakebite.
Hundreds of thousands of Americans die every year from the effects of obesity, poor diet, alcohol, cigarettes and drugs.
Do I care about those people? Tangentially. Can I do anything about their problems? No. I can only do my part at home and hope my example spreads. I think it is counter-productive for me to advocate legislating morality. People are going to fornicate, smoke, drink and over-eat. People are going to have unwanted pregnancies. People are going to listen to Rush Limbaugh and take him seriously.
If I was one of those people, I would resent you for trying to deny me these vices. It's not your business.
Neither is abortion.
Excellent - so you care enough to call them 'dead fetuses' [literally dead unborn children].
I'm not going to allow you to jump topics. We're talking about abortion for the sake of convenience. We're talking about living human beings who are at the mercy of their mothers and those mothers' doctors.
I'm not talking about victims of AIDS, which we do a lot for in fact, and I'm not talking about any of the rest of your stupid list, all of which is dwarfed by the enormous number of babies slaughtered every DAY in this country.
So stick to the issue. Verify: You do not care that 38% of all abortions are carried out in the black community in this country, mostly by planned parenthood - which was started by a racist seeking to diminish the number of blacks, and which is willing to take money from donors earmarked to abort black babies - all the while blacks are only about 12% of the population? Blacks are in effect committing self genocide and you don't care?
that's terrible.
"Verify: You do not care that 38% of all abortions are carried out in the black community in this country, mostly by planned parenthood - which was started by a racist seeking to diminish the number of blacks, and which is willing to take money from donors earmarked to abort black babies - all the while blacks are only about 12% of the population? Blacks are in effect committing self genocide and you don't care?"
Jimmy, FYI, I'm black. And, yes, I don't care. Black people do a lot of stupid stuff that I disagree with.
Jimmy,
Since you're bringing up black genocide, am I correct in assuming you have some cares about our issues?
OK, I'll make that assumption.
Why, then, would you do your best to undermine the best black role model to come around in years? Here's a family man with a beautiful wife and kids, whom he loves. He's been married forever and he still dates his wife. He has no outside children. He advocates healthly living and he's in great shape. Like me, he's personally opposed to abortion but doesn't feel it necessary to impose his personal views upon the electorate. He honestly admits to experimenting with drugs when in college, but grew out of it. Obama is the best single role model to come along in some time, black OR white, better than Mike Jordan, better than Bill Cosby, certainly better than Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Barack Obama won my vote last April when he made a Father's Day speech in when he demanded that black fathers stand by their kids and stop opting out when their mothers go nuts.
Since you're so concerned about the unborn, perhaps you might shell out some of that concern for the already born. Obama is a super role model for black families.
More to come, I assure you - but first let me say that you NEED to listen to my show this weekend. I will feature an interview with black conservative, author, blogger Kevin Jackson. You need to hear Kevin. You really need to hear Kevin. You MUST hear Kevin and be freed from the shackles that the democrat party has you bound in.
Seriously, please listen to my show. If you have a response, I'll put you on my show as well.
thejimmyzshow.blogspot.com
JimmyZ: "You MUST hear Kevin and be freed from the shackles that the democrat party has you bound in."
I'm NOT a Democrat. Nor am I a liberal. I fully agree with President's Bush's assessment about the "soft bigotry of low expectations" that the Democrats seem to foster.
I voted for Obama, but not because I supported his liberal policies. I didn't and I don't. I voted for him because I think he is a fine role model for black people. I pointed out his family life earlier. I failed to mention that he is an honors graduate of Harvard Law School and Columbia, and his wife graduated with honors from Princeton. (My son just graduated from Duke and my daughter attends Vanderbilt. Both of them earned full scholarships based on academics)
Apart from the debt, my other main issue is the 70% illegitimacy rate among blacks. Obama spoke out against it when weasels like Jesse Jackson seemed to support single motherhood. That, more than anything, earned my vote. But that may not be enough to earn my vote in 2012.
Obama is a role model?! What a joke! A guy who can't find A SINGLE friend to celebrate his "selection" to be president. A guy who has thrown his "racist spiritual advisor," his grandmother, and about anybody else who help in his subterfuge to power!
A punk who would disavow the bigger part of his ethnicity for political expediency--Stupid enough to exalt his deadbeat African dad, and not attend the funeral of his white grandmother, the woman who raised him.
As a black man, I am disgusted by Obama. His whole life is nothing more than a staged sham. He has about as much character as Ted Bundy. You know...the psycopathic doctor who was "charming!"
He is teaching black kids style over substance. Do as I say, not as I do.
Role model? Yes. For narcissistic sociopaths!
"Role model? Yes. For narcissistic sociopaths! "
You sound EXACTLY like my friend Kevin from D.C., a guy who 'kept it real' by voting for a real brutha like Marion Barry. Twice.
My uncle in D.C. did the same thing, hates Obama, and was a big PUMA.
I disagree with you. His family life trumps his political life. What you view as narcissism would be viewed as savvy politics if he were white.
When you dredge up his chick-on-the-side and his baby-mama, I'll change my opinion of him. Not before.
No I'm afraid, unlike racist, ignorant Democrats, my character stays the same regardless of who I deem idiotic.
We see what we are allowed to see in ObamaNation. The most transparent administration in history and the most transparent guy--I see right through is sorry butt.
Camelot...NOT! On the DL, likely. Michelle ain't got those "guns" for nothing.
We are witnessing the destruction of America by a no-talent hack, by the way who is more WHITE than he is BLACK!
If he were really black and as smart as they say, there is NO way he would vote for the party that has harassed, oppressed, and dehumanized blacks their entire existence!
Back to his personal life. A lawyer, politician, and you want me to believe it's Black Camelot. I guess you believe in the tooth fairy too!
Forgive me, I have to address this, too:
"He is teaching black kids style over substance. Do as I say, not as I do."
Yes, he's telling them, "Stand by your wife and kids. Push your children to excel and believe in their country. Don't accept the small when you can rise to the great. Be gracious, but hard-nosed. This is America. ANYTHING is possible."
Like Michelle, I've never been so proud of my country as I have been this past year.
blackmonrikker - You're right, anything's possible. A WHITE guy can pass as a BLACK guy, and then spend $950,000 and counting to not prove he's really AFRICAN!
Like Michelle, you are a bigger idiot than the meddling whites who have destroyed the black community. I am ashamed of you and if I was in charge, like Margaret Sanger, the eugenicist whom Obama exalts, I wouldn't allow you to breed.
"racist, ignorant Democrats"
I'm not a Democrat. Your insult falls on deaf ears. I'm a Libertarian. As such, the politics of the Dems and Reps don't affect me. I work for myself. I'm not in debt. My house is almost paid for. My kids are all attending college for free because I kicked their asses when they were young and demanded that they be excellent. I grow my own vegetables. I get my water from a well. If I could find a way to generate my own electricity, I would be completely immune from the idiocies of politics.
" if I was in charge, like Margaret Sanger, the eugenicist whom Obama exalts, I wouldn't allow you to breed. "
Oh you want to play the dozens? I think you'd hinder my breeding prospects by spending more time alone with your own wife.
"I voted for Obama, but not because I supported his liberal policies. I didn't and I don't. I voted for him because I think he is a fine role model for black people."
Even IF he were even a DECENT role model for black people (I don't believe he is - but whatever), that would not be a good reason to vote for him when you yourself say - and I agree - that you did not and still don't support his liberal policies! So you would sell out the COUNTRY because you thought you needed a black man to be the President as some kind of role model, no matter how many black babies die in unfettered abortion; no matter how many black families are killed off by federal welfare programs; no matter how much debt and deficit is piled on to the children and grandchildren in this country (assuming we can survive his liberal policies)?
I just cannot fathom that kind of thinking, and I'm complimenting you by considering it to be 'thinking.'
blackmonrikker - I will match wits with you anytime. I find you a wit of the nit kind. Whatever political ilk you call yourself, finding Obama a role model makes you a certifiable idiot, and that's my official diagnosis. As for your previous post, I note that people who ADVERTISE their wares, usually don't have them. Don't make me Google map you at the institution you call your "almost paid for" house! LMBO.
Hey Libertarian, stop telling black people who to be proud of. I don't set your role models.
"So you would sell out the COUNTRY because you thought you needed a black man to be the President as some kind of role model, no matter how many black babies die in unfettered abortion; no matter how many black families are killed off by federal welfare programs; no matter how much debt and deficit is piled on to the children and grandchildren in this country (assuming we can survive his liberal policies)?"
No one puts a gun to black people's heads and forces them to have abortions or go on welfare. The main problem facing black people is the absence of strong fathers in the home. Single mothers CANNOT RAISE BOYS TO BE MEN. They can only raise boys to be friends.
You didn't answer my earlier question, President JimmyZ. Faced with the prospect of more debt, depression and war, which choice would you have made? I've said I would have chosen Depression. Along with that I would have abolished compound interest and lowered all interest rates to single digits. I also would have placed a price cap on gasoline (at $2.70/gal) and doubled the gas tax to .40/gal.
Whats YOUR plan, Jimmy?
@The Jimmy Z Show - Great comment to pimp slap the meddling libertarian who believes he can establish black people's role models. Jim Nabors is HIS new role model, because I think Jim Nabors is a stand up guy! So there!
BULLETIN for LIBERALS: I am coming to expose you racist elitist meddlers for what you are. Your agenda is clear to this FULLY black man (well at least 83.2%...that qualifies!), and I will shine the light on you cockroaches. Admit your racism and elitism, and "no harm no foul." Until then, expect me to be in your face!
blacksphere: "blackmonrikker - I will match wits with you anytime"
No you won't. I speak English. I don't speak 'tard.
@blackmeddler - JZ - allow me, Sir! I would deal with the fraud in government, while simultaneously letting the world know that America is the BEST country IN the world. We have nothing to apologize for, and if you mess with us, we will stop buying your product, first. If you keep messing with us, we will kick you butt. Last time I checked there was no run on people trying to get into Iran...Cuba...China...Russia...Mexico.
You see blackmeddler, real leaders can multi-task. We don't go around apologizing based on where we are that day. We don't need teleprompters and can speak from the heart!
You are playing checkers son. Learn something before you decide to chime in. Good news: I have detected a brain...put something in it, then come back. I'll be here!
black, in fact, Obama's unfettered abortion scheme is quite close to that 'gun to their head' because, like welfare destroyed the black family, govt encouraged abortion is destroying black babies. Single mothers can and DO raise good children. Thoughtful single mothers DO give their children out to adoption - and when that happens, black racists DEMAND that only black families can adopt black babies - thus the result is even MORE black abortions.
Go read my post above again, I gave you a very specific plan to get the economy rolling.
As to your gas price fix - how f-ing old are you? You can't be old enough to know what it was like under Carter: Price fixing turned buying gasoline into a nightmare. You're ignorant on so many levels it is genuinely disturbing.
blacksphere: "You are playing checkers son. Learn something before you decide to chime in. Good news: I have detected a brain...put something in it, then come back. I'll be here! "
Yep, you sound just like my friend Kevin. Only difference is, Kevin is not a Tom. And he actually is a fairly decent chess player.
How do you sleep at night?
@blackmeddler - THAT'S the best you could do?! LMBO. "Tard" You are about as sharp as a cafeteria meatball. "Tard" Your comments are about as interesting as watching two blind men talk in sign language! Grow a pair! I haven't even started carving you up, and you still can't find your naughty bits. You can certainly do better than that. At least I hope so. Because if "Tard" is the best you can do, when I'm finished with you, you won't know whether so scratch your watch or wind your ass!
I suggest you "check back in with the orderly" and get some meds and rest!
Wow, this is depressing... talk about a closed mind. So married to the democratic party, he voted for Obama as 'role model' even though he claims that he disagrees with everything Obama's politics stand for.
My God.
Talk about a twisted, twisted man.
@JZ - Trying to school blackmeddler is like trying to teach Japanese to a chimpanzee...just not worth trying! I'm glad you turned me on to this, because as with most sites, I need to pimp slap a few stupid people to make a point. Yes good things come from these Rodney King beat downs!
@JZ - They are ALL twisted, regardless of the reason. Liberalism IS a disease. And these beatdowns are medicinal for them. It's a good thing. Now get some rest, as it will start again soon! :-)
"Obama's unfettered abortion scheme is quite close to that 'gun to their head' because, like welfare destroyed the black family, govt encouraged abortion is destroying black babies."
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!??!?? Obama was 12 years old when the SUPREME COURT said abortion is legal in America. Abortion is NOT his policy, IT'S U.S. LAW. He has said he's personally opposed to abortion, but isn't opposed to other people doing it.
I'm opposed to homosexuality, or more specifically, I'm opposed to performing sex acts on men. I don't give a damn if other men do it. It's just not for me. I'm opposed to having the government tell them what to do. It doesn't mean I'm gay.
You seem to make a habit of misrepresenting what the president says. Your friend blacksphere (who I assume is your redio guest Kevin) is worse. Neither of you know a whole lot about black people. You friend claims he is a real black man, and yet the first thing out of his mouth was an insipid accusation against white people for black people's problems.
There would be fewer abortions if black people, as a group, decided to embrace the family values that the Obama family is living.
Thanks sphere... you're sharp, funny, and inspirational. As a white man who DOES care for this country, and all of her people - black, brown, red, yellow, white and purple - this kind of blind pig-ignorance, asking first that we accept Obama even though Mr. Transparency Pants refuses to establish his eligibility and then defending his vote by saying he disagrees with Obama politically (??), just makes me so frustrated. The liberals have indoctrinated a whole race of people by lumping them all together in a group. And they're doing it again with the illegal aliens from Mexico by naming one of that 'group' to the Supreme Court.
I saw a Mexican woman on television: "Oh, how wonderful! We'll one of us on the Supreme Court!" which of course means nothing, but she's been TOLD it means something, so to her its some big grand glorious racial achievement.
Yet, it is a big fat freakin' NOTHING - nothing for her, nothing for her people, nothing for America.
Damn.
blackmeddler, now you're pissing me off. Have you not been paying any attention to what Obama has been up to in this country with respect to abortion since he became President? I mean, damn! Have you no time to pay any damned attention??
Sphere does not know a lot about black people? My God man, it is Obama who knows precious little about black people. If Obama DID, he would do something FOR the blacks in America. He would help blacks in America. Instead he is doing nothing for them.
"blackmeddler, now you're pissing me off. Have you not been paying any attention to what Obama has been up to in this country with respect to abortion since he became President? I mean, damn! Have you no time to pay any damned attention?? "
JimmytheZero, Have you not been paying attention to MY posts? Look, I'll type slowly so you can understand.
I......DON'T.......GIVE......A......SHEET.....ABOUT......ABORTION. IT......DOESN'T........AFFECT.......ME......OR.....MINE.
People who have abortions are making decision which I have no say over. And neither do you.
Even MORE evidence that you are a moron. Seriously: OF COURSE abortion affects you. You're talking about a role model for black people who is ALL FOR abortion and encourages through his actions the increases in black abortions.
Of course abortion affects you and yours, without question. It affects all of us because it is the destruction of life. It affects us because it devalues the sanctity of human life.
And you have no idea.
I'm still laughing at "Tard!" I would expect more from a 3-yo! But yes my meddling, braggart Libertarian wants me to embrace the idea that FAMILY is just Obama's wife and "chirrens." I explained to the "drunk uncle meddler" that Hussein threw his grandmother under the bus, exalted his deadbeat dad, and talk bad about his white mother, but HE sees THAT as something for "da po lil negro...ME" to look up to! "Well thank you so much Mr. Libertarian for straightenin' me out. What would I do without da Massa?"
And I can't wait to hear what a "real black man" is. Lawd knows I has no id...
"he would do something FOR the blacks in America. He would help blacks in America. Instead he is doing nothing for them."
Now YOU sound like a Democrat.
He doesn't need to do anything for us except stand in there and be a strong father to his family. We don't need any government handouts or new programs. We need black men to stand up and be men. If he does that, and not a damn thing else, he's doing a good job.
blackmeddler - GOOD TO KNOW your take on abortion. I'd say it's one person too late in my book, and I used to be against it, before dealing with you. BTW, where is that wit you were going to display. Or was the T A L K I N G S L O W it?
You ideas are insane when it comes to understanding black people. The fact is when it comes to your knowledge of blacks, you couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel.
But I do have a question? How black would you like me to be? Alan Keyes black, or is Obama black, black enough. Whatever you choose for me, I think I can accommodate. Presently I'm a nice mocha, with a spritzer of cream.
"We don't need any government handouts or new programs."
Then you are a fool for voting for him. Utterly and completely and totally a fool.
You have voted for the most damaging candidate to black people - perhaps ever - and you KNEW IT, yet you voted for him anyway.
I believe you know that you've made this mistake, and so you have rationalized this 'role model' bull-oney in order to make yourself feel good.
You need to apologize to yourself, your family and your race for getting caught up in the Obama hype and fervor. You need to apologize to America for voting for a charlatan. And you need to get out there and tell your friends and neighbors that you f-ed up big time and should never have voted for this guy.
And in this case, I now agree with the Sphere. You are a complete waste of my valuable time.
@blackmeddler - Black men to stand up. Would those be FULL blacks or HALF blacks? And should they love their parents, and respect those who raised them. Clever how you try to avoid the issues...and that literary whooping I have been putting on you. But you will dream these words, and use my quips, and hopefully be ready for battle next time...
"Of course abortion affects you and yours, without question. It affects all of us because it is the destruction of life. It affects us because it devalues the sanctity of human life. "
You're an arrogant prick, aren't you? You really are full of yourself. "it affects all of us!!!" No. It affects the principals who got knocked up. It doesn't even affect the fetus because fetuses are not self-aware.
Would you also impose Christianity upon us?
"Sanctity of human life". Yeh right. Does that principle apply to living members of Al queda? No?
The sad thing is, you don't even realize how godawful hypocritical you are.
Sphere, I'm going to the beach for a swim every day. I'm getting a nice color, but it's not as mocha of course. Still, I figure a little color on this starch white body of mine will make me more palatable to the racial crowd who like their skin tones darker.
@blackmeddler - Unlike JZ, I will roast your chestnut all night. I have the time, and your type have stopped trolling my blog for the same reason you will eventually end this...your brain will explode.
When you can be honest with yourself and address all the very real issues I brought up, then I will stop Ike-ing you, Tina. But if you keep this up, I will take this post and make a very real spectacle of you, with about 100,000 people watching. And we will find out who you are and hit your blog and embarrass you, much as I have here. Because I detest uninformed MEDDLERS in my community. You are the skunk at my picnic, the drunk peeing in the punch bowl.
"You're an arrogant prick, aren't you? You really are full of yourself. "it affects all of us!!!" No. It affects the principals who got knocked up. It doesn't even affect the fetus because fetuses are not self-aware."
Yes I do seem arrogant to the ignorant. I admit that.
Abortion affects EVERYONE. Note the complete lack of regard for the sanctity of life in the younger generation.
"Would you also impose Christianity upon us?"
No, but you would and HAVE imposed your godlessness and secularist hoohah on US.
"Sanctity of human life". Yeh right. Does that principle apply to living members of Al queda? No?"
Al queda is trying to KILL US. So self defense is another thing you have a problem with?
"The sad thing is, you don't even realize how godawful hypocritical you are."
You seem not to know what the word 'hypocrite' means.
"You need to apologize to yourself, your family and your race for getting caught up in the Obama hype and fervor. You need to apologize to America for voting for a charlatan."
And YOU need to mind your own GD business about what I NEED to do.
@blackmeddler - Fetus are not self-aware? If that's a reason for murder then I hope you have a hand gun near. Here's a question for you. Of the 12.5B people living and dead, did any of them skip the "not self-aware" state and survive? Hey don't get in the game on abortion, your prerogative. But don't try to marginalize those who allow dunces like you to be born.
Let me know if you need Kervorkian's #
@blackprotector - LMBO! ROFL! "...you better mind you GD business!" BUTTON!
After your response, I believe that I hit the nail on the head and repeat this:
I believe you know that you've made this mistake, and so you have rationalized this 'role model' bull-oney in order to make yourself feel good.
[Truly, you have been writing all day like someone who is filled with guilt over voting for someone whom you disagree with in full, just because he was the right skin tone. You didn't do what MLK insisted - you did not evaluate the content of the man's character, you simply voted for the color of his skin.]
You need to apologize to yourself, your family and your race for getting caught up in the Obama hype and fervor. You need to apologize to America for voting for a charlatan. And you need to get out there and tell your friends and neighbors that you f-ed up big time and should never have voted for this guy.
[And you do need to apologize. If you really do disagree with Obama's politics, you KNOW how damn dangerous he is to our country and to American black people. And STILL you voted for him, and you probably didn't know he'd be this bad, because the media fooled a LOT of people. You goofed, blackmeddler, and you need to own up. Be a man, and admit this mistake.]
"No, but you would and HAVE imposed your godlessness and secularist hoohah on US."
Actually, no, I haven't. I don't do that. Go back and re-read our posts. It's ME that's saying "that doesn't affect me, so I don't care. I don't believe in imposing my views on others."
It's YOU that's using your pompous view of life to try to impose your ideas on others. If you are opposed to abortion, don't have one.
"Truly, you have been writing all day like someone who is filled with guilt over voting for someone whom you disagree with in full, just because he was the right skin tone."
No, I've been writing all day because I'm bored. And I enjoy condescending to morons.
blackmeddler - Where is Superman when we need him?!
How about this, we drop the abortion issue (and I stop pimp-slapping you!), if you stop telling black people who our role models should be. If you like bi-sexual, no-talent racist mulattos, who are we to stop you. But don't impose your "tendencies" on me...or other blacks who aren't really black, as you define black! LOL
blackmeddler, I did not say you personally, but people of your ilk, accusing us of trying to force Christ on people while it is YOUR ilk who seek to remove Christ from our society and replace Him with godlessness and secularism.
Why must I explain twice everything to you? are you purposely misunderstanding me?
@blackmeddler - I noticed you haven't pointed that barbarous wit at me? "Tard!" LMBO ROFL!!!
Are WE done? I must admit, this is going to be some fun reading for my blog readers! Talk about me serving up a FEAST! ROFLMBO!!!
THANK YOU!
"[And you do need to apologize. If you really do disagree with Obama's politics, you KNOW how damn dangerous he is to our country and to American black people. And STILL you voted for him, and you probably didn't know he'd be this bad, because the media fooled a LOT of people. You goofed, blackmeddler, and you need to own up. Be a man, and admit this mistake.] "
Well, JimmyZero, your ad hominem attacks surely won't accomplish THAT trick. It's you that doesn't like the president, not me. You've got that right. Not everyone is going to like him.
I like how you've suckered blacksphere into your orbit, though. He reminds me of the Jews who were tasked with weeding out the Jews on their way to the ovens at Auschwitz. A traitor's traitor, a black man who can only derive his self image by sucking up and getting the approval of a white man.
@blackmeddler - It doesn't surprise me that somebody with your level of intelligence would say something so stupid...but then I am still stewing on "Tard!" ROFLMBO. Brevity is the soul of wit...NOT!
Approval of the white man. See how you racist automatically marginalize the black man. Why can't JZ be trying to get MY approval. Always keeping a brotha down. Dare I say, am I TOO black for you. You like thin metrosexual black men, as it feeds your subliminal feelings of longing? Do you fight to look away from the cover of Men's Health? Don't be ashamed. If you can abandon God, you can expand your relative moral universe! Don't fight the feeling...embrace it. Find your inner black, excuse me "half-black" man and set yourself free...! Wheeee!
Blacksphere, Perhaps I didn't make myself clear earlier. I don't speak 'tard OR Tom. You are going to have to revert to English if you want a response.
I never use ad hom. If I call you a fool, you've already proven it.
@blackmeddler - Oh I got it, but I started a dialect of chimpanzee that I thought you understood!
I must admit you have me rolling with your 3rd-grade attempts at wit. It would surprise any of my readers if I told them that my 16 year old is the one who has been ripping you a new one...one you can use for "the boys!"
BTW, if you respond to my retorts, it's less witty! ROFLMBO! Bring it...no wait, I can do it..."TARD!" ROFLMBO!!
"If I call you a fool, you've already proven it."
yeh, well. My guy is president and doing a credible job to this point.
And you've been reduced to sucking the pipes of a lawyer who offered BC signed by Dudley Doright as proof of his ineligibility. that, and recruiting black republicans who have to masturbate themselves to sleep at night.
Your guy? I thought you didn't agree with his politics, you liar.
And there has been no birth certificate yet.
Now hush.
Jimmy,
You never answered my question. Given the choice between war, depression and TARP, which would you choose?
@blackmeddler - You know you dream of Obama at night. Half-Jungle Fever is REAL, bro...let it go. Your wife is more aware than you think. And Obama's African lineage offers you that real Mandingo "thang." I get it! I ain't mad at you. I don't see it, but you do. He's sexy to you. And the media just "throws" him at you day by day, minute by minute! It's was almost impossible for you to fight it! And you have no God to discuss it with, so you succumbed. I get it!
I'm sorry to have been so tough on you as you tried to find your inner gay negro. I applaud you coming out tonight! I plan to blog about you...my new gay not black but want to be black, knows black better than blacks libertarian internet friend! Wait..."Tard" ROFLMBO!!! Priceless conversation!
@JZ - Allow me, as blackmeddler is speaking "Tard."
"Your guy? I thought you didn't agree with his politics, you liar."
I don't agree with his politics. But I voted for him. And I'm going to do what I can to make him see my point of view. I want him to succeed. I want him to succeed spectacularly. He's not going to do that by ignoring economic reality. And I believe he is smart enough to know that.
And anyway, I disagree with YOU more. Your side is the dark side, the Cheney side, the immoral, lying, sack-a-dodo side.
I do not accept your pretense that those are the only options. I gave you my answer.
Yeh, you answered in another thread. While I proposed simple, concrete, and easily obtainable financial and political goals, you proposed the same trickle-down Republican theories that got us into this mess in the first place.
I see how original your mind is. You don't seem to be interested in solving the problem. You and your flunky Negro friend seem to be interested in BEING the problem.
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Update on The biggest political cover up in American history
Worse than Watergate, Whitewatergate, or any of the other cover ups of previous administrations, is the question of whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States of America... OR, is he a FRAUD, a USURPER, a man with no legal authority to sit in the position that he now claims to hold?
Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest RIGHT NOW by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON'T! Instead, he has had teams of attorneys all over the country, fighting "tooth and nail" to thwart the efforts of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF), and our allies in a number of states, to compel him to produce an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to serve as President of these United States!
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Ohio, Mississippi, Hawaii, and California! These are the states where USJF has been involved in lawsuits seeking an answer to this critical constitutional question!
And now, in California, just like in every lawsuit filed over this issue, the Obama team of attorneys, working with liberal allies in the office of California Attorney General Jerry Brown, has convinced a Sacramento County Superior Court judge to dismiss USJF's suit to force the truth to come out about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born" citizen, and, therefore, eligible to serve as President of the United States.
BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING UP! Our clients in this case, including 2008 candidate for President of the United States, Alan Keyes, have given USJF the go ahead to file an appeal of this decision!
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO -- BUT WE NEED YOUR HELP TO DO IT!
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A number of apologists for Barack Obama have gone to great lengths to belittle USJF and our allies in the fight to preserve our Constitution. However, the questions that they cannot answer are:
If Barack Hussein Obama has nothing to hide, WHY doesn't he just make his real birth certificate public? WHY has he spent a almost $900,000.00 in attorney fees, for, among other things, fighting USJF's efforts to obtain his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE? The more that he fights these efforts to see this document, the more that you have to wonder, WHY?
Obama supporters want everyone to believe that only "fringies," the people that they now call "birthers," in other words, only people that they claim are outside of the main stream of thinking, question whether Mr. Obama is truly eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. But the truth of the matter is that more and more people, including many federal, state, and local elected officials, AND many in the military, are questioning whether Barack Hussein Obama is, indeed, a "natural born citizen," a Constitutional requirement for him to serve as President of these United States.
The citizens of this country have the right to know if Barack Obama is, indeed, eligible to serve as President! And we here at the United States Justice Foundation are going to take our lawsuit all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary, to find out the answer to this critical question.
This fight to discover the truth will be neither easy nor inexpensive, but isn't protecting the Constitution worth it? And that is exactly what this legal battle is all about,
PROTECTING THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION!
HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
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Barack Obama wants you to ignore what he is doing, he wants you to ignore the U.S. Constitution, he wants you to think that the parts of the Constitution that he does not agree with (like the requirements to serve as President) are unimportant.
In effect, he wants to destroy the U. S. Constitution and reshape this country into his own image of what he wants it to be.
And Barack Obama's attorneys have now taken another big step to destroy the Constitution of the United States -- this time in a California State Court. Those attorneys, working with liberal California State Attorney General Jerry Brown, convinced the Judge in our case to rule that only Members of Congress can challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama, or any candidate, to serve as President.
And, the Judge further ruled that such a challenge could only be made on the 6th day of January following the meeting of the Presidential electors, at the session of Congress where the vote of the Electoral College is counted and the results announced. To use the Judge's words, this is "the exclusive means for challenges to the qualifications of President..."
That means that no one, except a Member of Congress, and only on one certain day of the year following the Presidential election, can challenge the qualifications of a President-Elect! And then, the challenge can only be successful if a majority of the Members of Congress support the challenge! And that means that the politicians, not the people, are in control of who becomes President if there is an eligibility issue!
Is that what you want? Do you believe that the majority party in both Houses of Congress should be deciding who is eligible to serve as President? Do you want Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid deciding who is President?
That means that the requirements of the U. S. Constitution as to the eligibility of the man or woman who runs for President to serve as President are meaningless!
Do you believe that the Constitution is a meaningless document? Do you believe that a majority of the Members of Congress have the right to ignore it? To render it of no force and effect?
The Trial Court Judge in our case did! But we are not going to accept his decision. We are not going to accept the legal arguments made by Barack Hussein Obama's attorneys, and those by attorneys from liberal California Attorney General Jerry Brown. We are going to keep fighting this monumentally important legal battle all the way up to the United States Supreme Court, if that is what is necessary.
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST FIGHT!
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WE MUST WIN!
IT'S A BATTLE THAT WILL DECIDE WHETHER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL REMAIN A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC, OR WHETHER WE WILL JOIN THE DUST HEAP OF HISTORY AS JUST ANOTHER FAILED EXPERIMENT!
USJF IS IN A BATTLE THAT COULD CHANGE THE HISTORY OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY! -- but we need YOUR help to WIN!
IT'S A BATTLE TO SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
IT'S A BATTLE TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY!
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We MUST learn the truth about whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen!
But to blunt our efforts to learn the truth, the Trial Court also blocked our subpoena for the college records of Mr. Obama! These vital records could have proven whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States, or whether he is a USURPER, a FRAUD, sitting in the oval office without any legal authority to do so!
What is in those records? We do not know. But the Obama legal team pulled out all of the stops to block the subpoena, so we believe that there is something in those college records that bears on the critical issue of whether Barack Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States.
JUST LIKE WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A REASON WHY THE OBAMA LEGAL TEAM, ACCORDING TO A PUBLISHED REPORT, HAS BEEN PAID OVER $800,000.00, and as much as almost $900,000.00, TO KEEP THE PUBLIC FROM SEEING HIS REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE -- NOT THE PHONEY ONE THAT HE PUT UP ON HIS WEBSITE.
There is no doubt in my mind that this e-mail may be the one of the most important documents that you ever read!
What you do after reading this e-mail may well determine the fate of the United States of America!
Please know that we are not saying that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States of America. The problem is we just do not know!
We do know that Barack Obama's maternal step-grandmother has proclaimed that she was present at his birth in Mombasa, in what is now Kenya, in Africa!
We do know that a fake birth certificate was put up on Obama's website!
We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in every case filed over this issue; to make sure that no one has access to his birth certificate.
We do know that Mr. Obama's legal team is doing everything that it can, in our California case; to make sure that no one has access to his college records.
DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!
HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!
The voters of the United States of America have the right to know whether Barack Obama is a "natural born citizen," as REQUIRED by the U. S. Constitution!
It's a question that MUST be answered!
Why? Because, if an unqualified person was elected to the Office of President of the United States, our entire form of government could be compromised!
Why?
Because, if Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible to serve as President of the United States, each and every act that he takes as President will be null and void! That's right, each bill that he signs into law, every Executive Order that he issues, and each and every one of his nominations to his Cabinet and to the federal courts will have no legal effect!
I don't make that statement lightly. It's not an exaggeration.
Article 2, Section 1, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution provides, in pertinent part, as follows: "No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President..."
That means that neither Osama Bin Laden, nor California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, nor Obama billionaire money man George Soros can serve as President of the United States. That also means that if Barack Obama was born outside of the United States, he is not eligible to serve as President of our great country!
So where was Mr. Obama born?
He claims to have a copy of his birth certificate. That means that either he knows where he was born, or he's lying about having that document.
And only Barack Hussein Obama's ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE can answer that question of where he was born. But he has teams of attorneys, all across the country, spending, and doing, whatever it takes to make sure that no one, and I mean NO ONE, will be allowed to see the one document that can clear up this controversy
Mr. Obama has claimed that his Presidential administration will be the most transparent in history. Yet, he will not make public the one document that could end all of the questions about the legitimacy of his election as President.
And you have to ask yourself, WHY?
Is it because this is some unimportant "technicality"? No, a requirement of the U. S. Constitution is not a mere "technicality"!
Is it because "President" Obama (if he is the President of the United States) has more important issues to deal with, and can't spare the time to deal with such a trivial issue? No, what is more important than the integrity of the Office of the President?
Or, is there something more involved?
Another question that the Obamaphiles don't want to answer is why, in 2005, was a law firm with ties to Mr. Obama researching the question as to how to evade the requirements of Article II of the United States Constitution, regarding the requirements to serve as President. 2005? Three years before the Presidential campaign?
If that doesn't raise questions in your mind, then nothing will!
And then there's the statements made by representatives of the State of Hawaii!
According to Dr. Chiyome Fukino, of the State of Hawaii's Department of Health,
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."
Exactly what does that mean? If she can access it, why can't we? It is that very record that USJF financed lawsuits in Mississippi and in Hawaii were seeking to force into the public arena! But Obama's attorneys, and his allies in state government, stopped those efforts cold!
So, the time of decision is now!
Do we give up?
Do we just ignore this threat to our Constitution? To our very form of government?
We here at USJF say NO!
Now is not the time to give up this fight!
Now is not the time to walk away from the most important Constitutional battle in our lifetime!
Now is the time to redouble our efforts to find out the truth!
Now is the time to tell Barack Hussein Obama that the United States Constitution is far more important than his political ambition!
But we can only do this with your help! With your financial support, and with the financial support of everyone that you know!
HELP US EXPOSE THE OBAMA COVER-UP -- DON'T LET HIM
RIP OUR CONSTITUTION TO SHREDS!
Will you stand with us?
Sincerely,
Gary Kreep, Executive Director
United States Justice Foundation
P.S. This is the biggest political cover-up in American history! It would be so simple to release the documents to PROVE Obama is a natural-born citizen... IF THEY HAD THE DOCUMENTS!
Barack Hussein Obama thinks he can get away with DUPING the American people and DESTROYING the U.S. Constitution. DON'T LET HIM DO IT!
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