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The President setting the example for the Nation

Why Is This Idea Important?: The Political leaders of a country by their behaviour validate and OK that same behaviour and that behaviour or modus operandi will be copied by others as they are the highest law in the land. If they are perceived as fraudulent or hypocritical it brings the whole system of Justice and the rule of Law into disrepute too and it undermines those people working honestly within those sectors. It also encourages further immoral, unhealthy and unlawful behaviour in the weaker members of society and in the future generations watching what is going on. therefore the Political leaders of the country should be held to a higher standard of behaviour than even Law Enforcement or the Judiciary.

Just read this online and it encapsulates what I think is reasonable for US taxpayers to ask Mr Obama for.

Sadly the longer he doesn't the more inclined people are to think a fraud has taken place.

More importantly should there actually be a fraud then the longer it goes on the more likely that a jail sentence is called for for all involved or have knowledge of it to make amends to the American people.

MIkeNZ

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It's pretty incredible that we have a president who gets away with talking about "transparency and openness" when he himself refuses to disclose the most basic personal data – including the only documentation that would establish whether he is constitutionally eligible to serve in the highest office in the land.

We need to see his birth certificate.

We need to see his student records, including those that would show whether he was registered as a foreigner at Occidental or Columbia and who paid his tuition.

We need to see his passport records during the time he was living in Indonesia and traveling to Pakistan as a youth. Did he give up his U.S. citizenship? If not, how did he retain it? Or did he not have U.S. citizenship to begin with because he was never actually born in Hawaii?

Submitted by mail2me 2 years ago

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  1. mail2me said:

    President Obama rightly campaigned for openness and transparency in government and politics, shouting we need change from the rooftops.

    He stated that he would be different from the Bush Republicans who were not honest and open.

    Since then he has spent hundreds of thousands of public donations to avoid showing his long form birth certificate to the people of the USA.

    Until he shows his Long Form Birth certificate he comes across as a Liar and a Fraud and brings the entire political and legal systems into disrepute, hence the growing public agitation over the issue.

    Its a matter of integrity and honestly over the perception of hypocrisy.

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  2. The longer this goes on, the more people who will finally catch up with the rest of us and realize the GOP is run by the kook fringe now.

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  3. This site has been rigged so that the posts asking for Obama to support transparency by providing his own birth certificate, health records and college records are not properly counted, even when they do not get deleted. An apologist for Obama responds to most posts with the dishonest comment that you can find a real copy of a birth certificate on factcheck - where a long exposed counterfeit birth certificate does reside.

    I have done a personal count of more than 1,000 requests for his birth certificate. My analysis suggests there have been at least 5,000 request for Obama to produce his real birth certificate, college records, health records and other financial records.

    It is possible to review this site to find the most requested ideas by scanning "Top Rated" posts, but the requests for Obama's records do not show up as being top rated. Those runnig this site are cooking the results.

    According to the liars running this website the most requested item has NOT been Obama's birth certificate.

    (My email is ricardomigrant@aol.com - include your email address if you want me to reply to you)

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  4. Twitchy said:

    Sorry, ricardo, but the "long exposed counterfeit birth certificate" is real. It's those who claim to have 'exposed' it who are the frauds.

    And, mail2me, the Certification of Live Birth is all you need to prove citizenship to get a passport, a drivers license, or any other official purpose.

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  5. blooomberg said:

    Twitchy, you are wrong about a Certificate of Live birth being proof enough to get a passport or driver's license. DO a little research on a site other than moveon.

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  6. mail2me said:

    My comment stands and Mr Obama's behaviour to date merely validates it.

    It is the appearance of evil that sours and taints all issues of character.

    As the head of state he does the same to the USA and all it's people.

    There is only one solution and that is to show the documents to the people anything else is hypocrisy which merely continues the circus.

    Further at present it is easy to remedy but later on this will have generated so much damage to his reputation and the office he holds that he will be permanently stained by it.

    To an outsider like me knowing how easy it is to sort out, it points to a great arrogance or a fraud.

    What else can it be?

    he is after all a servant of the people and he did campaign on transparency and honestly as part of change to the old order.

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  7. Twitchy said:

    blooomberg, a Certificate of Live Birth is a long-form birth certificate. A Certification of Live Birth is the short-form birth certificate. If it's got the signature and raised seal, either one should be good to prove citizenship for a DL or passport.

    mail2me, the entire controversy is based on ignorance, disinformation and outright lies. Try supporting truth & honesty yourself, for a change,, and demand that the wingnuts STFU. The birth certificate Obama's already shown clearly states that he was born in Honolulu, and has been validated by the State of Hawaii.

    If you won't believe that, why would anyone expect you to believe any long-form BC?

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  8. When Obama promised transparency he wasn't saying that he'd bend over for endless whippings from witch hunters who have no factual reasons for suspicion and would never be satisfied with any answer.

    Nobody believed what the birthers say he promised was what was meant.

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