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Anybody, along with Sen. Barack Obama can seek the presidency of the United States of America, but may not qualify.

Fact 1. Constitution Article II, Section II sets forth the qualifications for presidential candidates: ""No person except a NATURAL BORN Citizen", or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and have been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

Fact 2. Just because you are a US Citizen or have a US birth certificate, does NOT mean that your are a "NATURAL BORN" Citizen of the USA!!!

Fact 3. A Birth Certificate or documentation of a birth in a hospital should include at least: a number referring to the document, the name of the hospital, the mothers and fathers birthplace and ages, and with the attending doctor's signature.

Fact 4. The state of Hawaii issues a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) for those born: inside the State of Hawaii, outside of the State of Hawaii, and even outside the country if the parents, or one of the parents, are natives of, or residents in, the State of Hawaii. They also allow Late Registration. Every illegal alien born in Hawaii gets a Hawaiian COLB!!! The questionable*(see notes below) Certification of Live Birth (with a rev. 11/01 printed by a computer on a 2001 form for someone supposedly born in 1961) submitted on the web page of Barack Obama indicates that Barack Hussein Obama II was born on Aug. 4, 1961 to the mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama. http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

Fact 5. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, was not a US citizen, he was a bureaucrat Muslim in the communist government of Kenya. Under the British Nationality Act of 1948 he was a citizen of the United Kingdom and its Colonies. Under this Act, IF he was married to Stanley Ann Dunham and IF he acknowledged Barack Hussein Obama, Jr, as his son, or IF they were not married and he still acknowledged the boy, and IF he filed the correct paperwork with the British Colonial Authorities in Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama II, was born as a British Colonial Citizen and possesses a Birth Certificate which should still exist on file in Kenya and, presumably, London, England. Under Chapter VI. Section 87, of The Constitution of Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama Sr. became a Kenyan citizen on December 12th 1963. If Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, filed the correct papers with the British Colonial Authorities and with the Kenyan Government Barack Hussein Obama II also became a Kenyan citizen on December 12th 1963 under Section 97. of the Kenyan Constitution and still remains a Kenyan Citizen.

Fact 6. Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo a Muslim Indonesian citizen.

Fact 7. Under Indonesian Law you can not adopt a child over the age of five, even abroad, if you are an Indonesian Citizen. In “Dreams from my Father”, Obama says he lived with his step-father in Indonesia for five years and that by the time he and his mother arrived in Indonesia she and Lolo had been married for over a year before Lolo returned to Indonesia. Five years + one year = 6 years and when Barack Hussein Obama II returned to Hawaii prior to September of 1971 because he was enrolled in his Prep School in Hawaii to start the Fifth Grade he was 10 years old so he was probably shy of 4 years old when Dunham married Soetoro and arrived in Indonesia about the time of his fifth Birthday (1966).

Fact 8. Indonesian Law says: “Foreign persons under age of five who are adopted by Indonesian Citizens obtain Indonesian Citizenship following legalization of adoption process by District Court of general jurisdiction with jurisdiction over the adoptive parents [Id at Art. 2 (1)]“ “It is stipulated that an adopted child has the same status as a natural child, and that his or her relationship to the birth parents is severed by adoption”.

Fact 9. The only Legal Relationship he would have to his mother is that she was married to his Legal Father Lolo Soetoro, under Indonesian Law. He would be an Indonesian Citizen with an Indonesian Passport and an entry in Lolo’s KK documents.

Fact 10. Indonesian Law prior to August 1966 would be Indonesian Law 62/1958 and other prior Indonesian Laws. Indonesian Law does not accept Dual Nationality/Citizenship, so Barack Hussein Obama II would no longer be a US Citizen according to Indonesian Law, in fact he would be considered never to have been one at all.

Fact 11. Lolo Soetoro would be his guardian, next of Kin and father. His Religion would be Legally Listed and Registered as Islam because children have the Religion of their Father under Indonesian Law and can have no other. His Surname would become Soetoro, in full Soetoro Mangunharjo with Barry as his given name at the choosing by his father Lolo.

Fact 12. Barry Soetoro was enrolled on January 1st 1968, given Serial No 203 and placed in Class 1 B. His Religion is given as Islam, his Nationality Indonesian, his Father’s Name as L Soetoro Ma., his Father’s Occupation as Official, Director General’s Office TNI [Topography Division Indonesian Army] and his Name as Barry Soetoro.

Fact 13. Only citizen Indonesian children were enrolled in Indonesian Schools in 1968, SD Asisi was a Roman Catholic School within the Indonesian State System, it was not an International School. Therefore, if he attended this school and subsequently SDN Menteng 1, State Elementary School, and every source agrees that this is the case, he would have to have been enrolled as an Indonesian Citizen.

Fact 14. All records show that Lolo Soetoro Ma. is described as his father and that no mention is made of his mother.

Fact 15. Indonesia in the sixties was a Police State! Everybody, even babes, had Identity Documents of some sort, possibly including Passports. Everybody was registered with the Government, one way or another. The head of each family, usually the father, but in rare cases a widowed, or divorced, mother has an Official Document called a Kartu Keluarga (Family Card). This lists every household/family member and gives their details in the same way as their individual KTPs or KITAS visas would.

Fact 16. An adopted, child called a WNI, warga negara Indonesia, has the same KK entry as any other Indonesian child. When a child enrolls in School their details are taken down from their KK Entry, as presented by the father (who is also required, at that time, to produce his KTP to verify the details on the KK). They are then given their Student KTP. KKs, like KTPs, are issued by the Government and cross checked by the National Police and Immigration Service.

Fact 17. Everything on Barry Soetoro record's at SD Asisi matches what would be true if he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro before he arrived in Indonesia. Schools are subject to periodical checks by both the Police and Immigration Officers as well as School Inspectors; this includes the teachers as well as the students.

Fact 18. Under Indonesian Law Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian Citizen and he could not Renounce that Citizenship until he was between the ages of 18 and 21, after 21 possibly he could not renounce it at all.

Fact 19. Dual nationals owe allegiance to both countries and are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if that person later travels there. Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country.

Fact 20. Somehow Stanley Ann Dunham got the necessary letter of permission from her husband so Barry Soetoro could go to Hawaii. An Indonesian Citizen called Barry Soetoro left Jakarta on an Indonesian Passport with both a US Visa and also an Indonesian Exit Visa. But an American Citizen called Barack Obama landed in Hawaii.

Fact 21. The US law states for a "NATURAL BORN" US Citizen for the time Barack Hussein Obama II was born between December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986: If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html

Fact 22. Obama's mother was only 18 years old at his birth, NOT the 16 + 5 = 21 required because his father was not a US citizen. Therefore Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT a "NATURAL BORN" US Citizen as required to become the President of the USA!!!

Fact 23. There must be a paper trail in Hawaii, US State Dept., and other Federal and Foreign Government Records to prove, or disprove the above facts and if there is not then somebody has removed the trail. If that is the case there has been a criminal conspiracy and all these moles involved need to go to prison!!! At the State Dept. Obama's records have been breached 3 times by employees of a company that the CEO is an adviser to Sen. Obama!!!

Fact 24. We had an Indonesian Barry Soetoro with an Indonesian passport leaving Indonesia but upon the arrival in Hawaii we had the same person Barack Hussein Obama II now magically a US citizen.

Fact 25. All of Barry's classmates throughout all of his school years knew him as Barry until he started college whereupon he was Barack Obama when he left the island of Hawaii to the mainland.

Fact 26. It is the responsibility of the presidential candidate to prove that they meet the qualifications of the Constitution, not the voters. So let Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama II supply copies of all the original documents that would prove he is a "NATURAL BORN Citizen of the United States of America" as defined and required by the US Constitution to become the President & Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and he has no allegiance to another country!!!

Questions, Notes, & Comments:

1. Where is the original 1961 Birth Certificate that was issued at the time of birth of Obama II with the signature of the attending doctor? There were 2 hospitals in Honolulu at that time, but by phone I was denied my request to find out if they had Obama's documents. The document in 1961 would have been black & white!!!

Obama claimed in the first chapter of his book Dreams From My Father: "I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school." Time wise this would be before 1980, so why is he trying to pawn off on us a COLB that was made after 2001?

2. Dunham by an application for SSN 535-40-8522 stating she was born Nov. 29, 1942, so if Barack was born on Aug. 4, 1961 Dunham was 18 years old.

3. From US immigration, exactly when starting in 1961 did Dunham, Obama Sr., Barack Hussein Obama II, &/or Barry Soetoro depart Hawaii? Were there any other reentries or exits (with full details) before the final entry of Barack Hussein Obama II at age 10 when he started school in Sept. 1971 in Hawaii?

4. Sen. Obama's own Kenyan paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed that Stanley Ann Dunham gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

5. Did Obama Sr. document his son with the Kenyan government? If so Obama II is probably still a citizen of Kenya &/or the UK.

6. How did Dunham legally enter an Indonesia citizen named Barry Soetoro into Hawaii with the name of Barack Obama???

7. Where are the legal papers that show Barry Soetoro's name was changed to Barack Hussein Obama II?

8. Did Barry Soetoro formally renounce Indonesian Citizenship between the ages of 18 and 21 and if so where are the documents? If Barry did not renounce then he is still an Indonesian citizen and Indonesian Law would prevail.

9. Senator Obama was an Indonesian Citizen as a boy but probably still is one legally. Perhaps this explains Julia Suryakusuma's view that Obama could run for President of Indonesia as expressed in her article in "The Jakarta Post" on 29th November 2006. Julia Suryakusuma was one of Stanley Ann Dunham's best friends. http://old.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20061129.F03

10. Did Barack Hussein Obama II upon the age of 18 comply with all the requirements of the Selective Service Registration until he reached the age of 26: Defense Authorization Act established Title 5, U.S. Code, Section 3328? If so what is his Selective Service number? Have him release all of these records.

11. The State Department should know what kind of passport and name Obama used on his journey to visit his mother in Pakistan, in 1981.

12. See FACT 4. Hawaii issue of CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (COLB) with a revision for the year 2001 for someone born in 1961 means absolutely nothing because Barack Hussein Obama II could have been born outside of the USA and still received this document since his mother was a resident of the state.

13. * http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert - This document looks as flaky as: the forged Bush documents that DAN RAthER touted on ABC that got him fired; and John Kerry's DD214 which was not issued until peanuts Carter gave amnesty to the traitors & draft dodgers of his time. You do not need to be a computer expert to question this Certification of Live Birth:

A. The certification number is blocked out (probably by Photoshop), at the bottom of the certificate it says "any alterations invalidates this certificate".

B. The birth supposed to have happened in 1961 but the COLB was printed by a laser printer (non-existent in 1961) on a form revised in 2001.

C. There is no space between ,1 on August 8,1961 as there is between 4, 1 on the August 4, 1961.

D. In 1961 the Birth Certificates were black & white!!!

E. In 1961 Dunham, the mother's race would have been listed as WHITE, not Caucasian.

F. In 1961 Obama, the father's race would have been listed as BLACK or NEGRO, not African.

G. All that Sen. Obama needs to do to clarify the COLB & other facts, questions, notes, and comments made above is to authorize the release of all his original records where ever they maybe found. (Something that John Kerry has never authorized with all of his military records, FBI records, or CIA records!!!)

14. Barack Obama lied to the Illinois Supreme Court when asked to provide former names, according to his attorney registration it just lists Barack Hussein Obama as full name, but his birth certificate on his web page has Barack Hussein Obama II, and his years in Indonesia he was legally Barry Soetoro.

15. Senator Barack Hussein Obama II needs to be also investigated for breaking the Logan Act for both his World Tour trip and his trip to Kenya where Obama has involved himself in Kenyan Internal Politics where he has actively campaigned for Prime Minister Odinga’s Party, the ODM, by making speeches in Kenya.

16. Concerning Obama's allegiance there is at http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html a movie of Barack Hussein Obama II not standing at attention & putting his right hand over his heart during the National Anthem, instead he has his hands over his crotch while rocking back & forth. As Obama would say: "YES WE CAN". Does Obama's allegiance belong with: UK; Kenya; Indonesia; or Obama's communist mentor from the age of 10 to 18 was "Frank" from Obama's book "Dreams from My Father" which was the sex deviate negroid Frank Marshall Davis who had sex with a 13 year old girl with his wife and Davis espionage against the USA as a member of the Communist Party of United States in Hawaii & ties in Chicago that the FBI has 601 pages documented. Or Obama's connection to the same kind of people in Chicago are: racist hating Dr. Rev. "God damn America" Wright that made an unauthorized trip to Cuba to consult with Comrade Castro and that taught Black Liberation Theology to the Obama's for more than 20 years so Obama thinks he can claim that he is a Christian; his buddies that provided most of Obama's security during the primaries from The Nation of Islam & Louis Farrakhan; the Weather Underground terrorists & Communist the unrepentant William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn where Obama launched his political career at their home; and/or his political financial buddies convicted felon billionaire George Soros & convicted felon Syrian national Tony Rezko??? This is the Obama's "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN"!!! Or view next to Obama's photo a Cuban flag with Che Guevara’s portrait in his Texas campaign office: http://mpinkeyes.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/barack-obamas-campaign-headquarters-displays-a-communist-flag/ or as he claims he is not or never was a Muslim check on: http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin and http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_muslim_connection/2008/08/07/119942.html or his ties to Saudi billionaire Dr. Khalid al-Mansour the financial backer of the Black Panthers and that helped Obama at Harvard: http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/obama_sutton_saudi/2008/09/03/127490.html

17. So exactly who is this guy that wants to be our US Commander in Chief of Armed Forces that says: "----we'll make the goal of eliminating all nuclear weapons a central element in our nuclear policy"??? He doesn't want to spend any money on new weaponry technology while we constantly have terrorist threats. The suicidal Mullahs in Iran are on the verge of acquiring nuclear weapons but Obama will give us universal health care, do we also get a Geiger counter and iodine tablets??? When Russia invaded democratically elected government of Georgia, Obama called on Georgia to show restraint. Then Comrade Obama's solution was to call on the U.N. Security Council where Russia has veto power, then goes body surfing!!! Do we want the commander in chief to pass the mantle of U.S. leadership to the corrupt U.N.???

18. We are wondering why Obama is not living or running for some communist government office in China after he praises the superior Communist Chinese's infrastructures: "Their ports, their train systems, their airports are vastly the superior to us now...""Beijing looks like a pretty good option." After making comments like this he gets mad because we question his patriotism to the USA.

19. Right from the mouth of a cocaine user Sen. Obama in his memoir "Dreams from My Father," on his drug use "Pot had helped, and booze, maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack though," He was deterred by the image "of an air bubble, shiny and round like a pearl, rolling quietly through my vein and stopping my heart," he says. "Junkie. Pothead. That's where I'd been headed: the final, fatal role of the young would-be black man." And he even explains how he has gotten away with avoiding discussions of his drug use and the technique he used to deceive his mother when she confronted him: "I had given her a reassuring smile and patted her hand and told her not to worry, I wouldn't do anything stupid. It was usually an effective tactic, another of those tricks I had learned: People were satisfied so long as you were courteous and smiled and made no sudden moves." As long as he does not deviate from his teleprompter speech and does not make in sudden moves or thoughts he does not put his foot in his mouth.

20. Senator Barack Hussein Obama II said on CNBC television about his World Tour on July 25: "It has also allowed me to send a message to the American people that the judgments I have made and the judgments I will make are ones that are going to result in them being safer." Do you feel safer now with Obama's judgments, his associations, his friends that he has made, and that he represents the Democrat's candidate for the President of the USA???

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Born in the U.S.A.

August 21, 2008

Updated: November 1, 2008

The truth about Obama's birth certificate.

Summary

In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

Analysis

Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.

Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."

Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.

Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.

It isn't signed.

No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.

In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.

The certificate number is blacked out.

The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.

The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."

Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.

The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller

Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp

The raised seal

Blowup of text

You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.

Blowup of certificate number

Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:

Obama's birth announcement

The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

–by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller

Sources

United States Department of State. "Application for a U.S. Passport." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

State of Hawaii Department of Health. "Request for Certified Copy of Birth Record." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

Hollyfield, Amy. "Obama's Birth Certificate: Final Chapter." Politifact.com. 27 Jun. 2008.

The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.

Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.

You can find his birth certificate, at least a copy, at factcheck.org.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Blatant rip of David Langer's linked posts.. :) Thanks David.