Justify to the world how it is possible for anyone born of a parent who is NOT a U.S. Citizen, to qualify as a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
Natural Born Citizen
Simply put, being a natural born citizen requires you to be born within the country of two citizen parents.
The relevant historical definition comes from “The Law of Nations”, section 212, Citizens and natives.
"The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country."
You may find this document at http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel.htm
John Jay used this in his writing during the Constitutional congress. Justice Scalia used this same document in the recent D.C. v Heller (2008) case in which private ownership of guns was found a constitutional right.
During the framing of the 14th Amendment the same definition was reached during arguments. Note the amendment does not confer natural born citizenship.
Comments (2)
listeme, your record here speaks for itself. Just want everyone to see you are a typical 0gawd worshipper who mindlessly votes against ideas to uphold the Constitution and preserve The Union. You are incapeable of reason or original thought.
Here is the record of listeme:
listeme
Member since : Jun-02-2009 (Verified)
0 Ideas, 0 Comments, 217 Votes
No ideas and no commentary to support a thumbs down vote against a logical and reasoned idea.
nikias has presented no ideas, but has presented numerous "comments", unfortunately the so called comments are merely name-calling. Not one sane thought presented to support his/her venemouse attacks on those of us who support The Constitutional requirements.
Here is the record of nikias another liberal without ideas:
nikias
Member since : Jun-01-2009 (Verified)
0 Ideas, 48 Comments, 527 Votes
User Activity Stream
Voted On Idea : Transparency for Obama 4 hours ago
Comments Posted : Celebrate Americas majorities like white people 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : Celebrate Americas majorities like white people 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : Original long version of Obama's birth certificate 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : What has happened to the U.S.A. ? 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : IDENTIFY NAME OF HOSPITAL WHERE BARRY OBAMA WAS BORN 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : What are moderators afraid of here, the truth? A terrorists bomb threat, on AIRFRANCE's downed plane the other day? 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : Was Madoff scam small in comparison? 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : Does Obama birth really matters? Is heart and soul are american and he has the country best interests in mind, Shall we stop try 4 hours ago
Voted On Idea : Transparency 5 hours ago
Comments Posted
nikias 4 hours ago Report Abuse
yeah let's celebrate bigots, good idea
nikias 5 hours ago Report Abuse
GFYS
nikias 5 hours ago Report Abuse
it's not a suggestion. it's news
nikias 5 hours ago Report Abuse
Maybe Orly Taitz is moderating! Nothing from the opposite side of her gets posted either...
nikias 16 hours ago Report Abuse
dumbass
nikias 16 hours ago
Joe Farah is a dumbass
nikias 16 hours ago Report Abuse
World Nuts Daily LOL
nikias 16 hours ago Report Abuse
Not as bad as Oily Titz and plains radio sites
nikias 16 hours ago Report Abuse
already in place
nikias 17 hours ago Report Abuse
Right wingnut sites like plainsradio dot com and orlytaitzesg dot come/blog1 are urging their members to come her and flood this site with spam
nikias 17 hours ago Report Abuse
they were duplicate posts
nikias 17 hours ago Report Abuse
go back to plains radio with the other morons
nikias 17 hours ago Report Abuse
why you spamming the site asshole?
nikias 17 hours ago Report Abuse
hey MommaE is lookin' fer ya idgit
nikias 17 hours ago Report Abuse
i like ur harelip!
nikias 17 hours ago Report Abuse
I hereby proclaim you to be a nut job
nikias 18 hours ago Report Abuse
get a life asshole
nikias 18 hours ago
somebody ban this moron
nikias 19 hours ago Report Abuse
you gotta get away from that World Nuts Daily website...
nikias 1 day ago
says the king/queen of assholes....
nikias 1 day ago
Back at ya bigot
nikias 1 day ago
Racist much?
nikias 1 day ago
I agree with you 110% Wemo.Mike
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
Racist nut jobs are what the birthers are made up of...
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
To the administrator: Why don't you just ban the people starting duplicate threads, as I understand it is in violation of the terms of service to duplicate threads. They'll likely be back with a new email address but not if you ban their IP addreses!
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
OP you are a blatant racist...
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
you're not racist much are ya...
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
it's true, I saw it with me own eyes!
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
The link was posted on a couple of birther blogs today, Plains Radio dot com and Dr.Orly Taitz Esg dot com, they are urging their members to come here and bomb the place.....bunch of frickin' morons.
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
yeah we should have had a law that pointed out bush was insane and not eligible to be president...
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
with any luck the wingnut birthers will commit mass suicide, that'll put those coffins to good use!
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
where's the proof that the President even spent a dime zappy?
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
Polarik is a fraud doofus....
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
John retarded You The People are a huge minority!
oops strike that, I meant retired.
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
ha ha obamafile.com > This is so ridiculous, racist, and far reaching spin. I enjoyed the laugh though, thanks!
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
He has, you just refuse to accept it...
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
Gimme a break and stop posting crap from that far right birther blog...
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
Why in the world would anybody vote against this idea other than out of sheer ignorance?
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
Wrong.....that's your side, not truth.
nikias 1 day ago Report Abuse
info, the link to this site has been posted on virtually every right wingnut blog on the internet, most of the nutters posting here today come from the Plains Radio and birther Dr Orly Taitz Esq websites. These people use the constitution of the United States to mask their hatred of President Obama and their racism, they aren't doing a very good job of masking though!
nikias 2 days ago Report Abuse
100% of Americans have no idea what NBC means as it has never been defined.
nikias 2 days ago Report Abuse
ur FOS....OMG
nikias 2 days ago Report Abuse
LOL the birfer mind never ceases to amaze me!
nikias 2 days ago Report Abuse
wow the place has been invaded by the Plains Radio morons....
nikias 2 days ago Report Abuse
Let the birfers post all they want Michael, it keeps the wingnuts busy and away from their rabid blogs!
nikias 2 days ago Report Abuse
What right do you have to speak for the military?
nikias 2 days ago Report Abuse
What in the world does "varification" mean?