Article II of the U.S. Constitution clearly states for only the Office of President of the United States (POTUS) the requirement of "Natural Born Citizen"
Under the British Nationality Act 1948(BNA 1948), Obama’s father was a British citizen/subject when he was born in the English colony of Kenya. Obama’s father continued to be such and not a U.S. citizen when Obama was born in 1961. Under the same BNA 1948, at birth, regardless of where he was born, Obama also became a British citizen/subject by descent from his British father.
At Barack Hussein Obama II’s web site, http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate the following admission:
(begin quote) "FactCheck.org Clarifies Barack’s Citizenship,
"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children…" (end quote)
Therefore admittedly, Barack Hussein Obama II (Soetoro) admits Great Britain governed his status.
A "NATURAL BORN" CITIZEN is one that CANNOT be "GOVERNED" by GREAT BRITAIN or any other country.
A "natural born citizen" is a person born on U.S. Soil of parents of which both must be U.S. Citizens and a "natural born citizen" can only be governed by the United States.
Therefore it is quite clear that Barack Hussein Obama II/Barry Soetoro cannot be a "natural born citizen" and has knowingly committed fraud against the people of the United States of America in his application for candidacy for Office of the President of the United States of America, and lied under Oath.
The Birth Certificate or place of birth is NOT a main issue based on the above Facts, and admission by BHO, he is clearly NOT eligible to be POTUS, no conspiracy theory it is FACT!
Simply put, being born of a Foreign Parent even if BHO were to have been born in the Capital Building during a Joint Session of Congress on the 4th of July he'd still NEVER have any possibility of being a "natural born citizen" as required by the U.S. Constitution.
However, the Birth Certificate and other issues are evidence of concealment, diversion and fraud and more reasons of BHO's ineligibility.
"U.S. Policy on Dual Nationality: While recognizing the existence of dual nationality, the U.S. Government does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Dual nationality may hamper efforts by the U.S. Government to provide diplomatic and consular protection to individuals overseas. When a U.S. citizen is in the other country of their dual nationality, that country has a predominant claim on the person. A foreign country might claim you as a citizen of that country if (a) you were born there; (b) your parent or parents (and sometimes grandparents) are or were citizens of that country or (c) you are a naturalized U.S. citizen but are still considered a citizen under that country's laws. (The oath you take when you are naturalized as a U.S. citizen (8 CFR 337.1) doesn't mean the foreign country does not still regard you as a citizen of that country.)"
And at FAM 082 it states:
"Current U.S. nationality laws do not explicitly address dual nationality, but the U.S. Supreme Court has stated that dual nationality is a 'status long recognized in the law' and that 'a person may have and exercise rights of nationality in two countries and be subject to the responsibilities of both.' See Kawakita v. United States, 343 U.S. 717 (1952)."
WHY did our Forefather's specify "Natural Born Citizen"?
The small but very important requirement in the U.S. Constitution, which requires that a U.S. President be ‘natural born’ on U.S. soil is also one of the "wisest requirements" and our forefathers put it in there for very good reason~ with foresight to prevent those with foreign interests and loyalties from corrupting our government.
Adolf Hitler, as example, was not a German born citizen. He was actually born in Austria. Having been to both those countries, I can personally attest to the great difference between Germans and Austrians. There are still many people who believe that had there been a similar requirement or law in Germany to our Constitution requirement for President (or Chancellor or leader) to be born on the land of the country, that WWII would not have occurred as it did and countless millions would not have died. Hitler completely ruined not only Europe, but especially Germany. He pushed it’s people and their Military forces to the brink of destruction, even when everyone (including himself) knew that there could be absolutely no victory for Germany. Why? Well, many feel it was because he was not a German in truth, He was an Austrian, and therefore he did ultimately not care about the German people or about Germany and all of her treasures, cities, etc.... although Hitler had an 84% approval rating with the public, due to the devastating Economic situation and his charismatic oratorical skills, the National Socialists did not have an overwhelming majority in the Reichstag. They simply were the largest party at the time in the German Parliament. Therefore, no other party was able to oppose their legislative pull…, and in a similar situation we’d also not be protected…
Many question BHO’s allegiances and patriotism, by his; refusal to wear the U.S. Flag lapel pin, refusal to salute the American Flag during the Anthem, canceling a scheduled Anthem at at least 1 of his events, and spending a lot of $ to repaint his campaign aircraft to remove the U.S. Flag from the tail fin, and canceling a scheduled visit to our injured troops in Germany… So in this case there is good cause and reason to ensure the intended purpose of the Constitutional requirement is upheld.
BHO visited Kenya as a Senator and endorsed the socialist party candidate (Odinga, his cousin) in their national Presidential elections. He did this because Odinga was/is his friend and fellow Luo tribesman (and cousin), of the same tribe BHO and his father were members of, and the existing Kenyan administration fired his father, Obama Sr. That is precisely why we need the President to be a real "natural born citizen", without divided loyalties, hidden agendas and conflicts of interest. Also worth mention is that hundreds of citizens were killed by Obama's cousin Odinga's men when Odinga lost the the election.
Mr. Obama, Please act like a real man and STEP DOWN, you cannot resign nor be impeached because you were NEVER eligible for the position in the first place, it will be much worse for you if you require that you be removed...
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Comments (36)
You lost.
Get over it.
If Obama was legally in the office of President, then why is he spending millions in lawyer fees to prevent any of his records from being brought to light. He can put this question to rest by just presenting his records as all past federal employees have done before him. Even John McCain when questioned about his birth, he provided any and all records to prove his electability.
This argument is not qualified!
This issue is of utmost importance.
Wake Up America
"You lost.
Get over it."
You lost too! You are just to dumb to realize it!
We all lost!
No...don't fire him, make him work for his Mistress, Piglosi!
So Rex, why did you vote thumbs down on this then?
I MISVOTED actually...mistake.
There can't really be any doubt in anyone's mind that he's clearly working against America's best interests in any and every way he can.
And one would have to be an utter fool to believe he would hide all his records and secure all these lawyers if he has nothing to hide.
The calls are getting louder, it's just a matter of time now.
Time to fess up.
Maybe he doesn't want it known that he is a British citizen. He wants the queen to come here for the D-Day ceremony.
Let her pay for it. We gave more than we should have to stop Hitler.
In the modern world we should not honor or give status to a royal. We are a democracy. What is she really but a rich person and her family who lives off the Empire?
Eligibility is the law. It isn't winning a vote or racism or any other petty excuse. You prove your eligibility period.
You do know that Obama has benefitted by having other candidates personal private informations made public when it wasn't even a qualification that those records be unsealed. They were divorce documents sealed to shield a child. Kind of two faced to argue privacy after that isn't it?
White House 'dialogue' site scrubbed of eligibility posts. Is that open government. You give the people a voice but then you do not listen and turn a deaf ear. The response here should tell you how many and how frustrated We the People are that no one in Washington DC is listening and covering up this issue of Obama's eligigiblity.
http://www.thebirthers.org/
RJ
I added a Post as Well,
http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/4615-4049
Vote Up!
Keep Fighting!
The only step I want to see the usurper take is into Levenworth prison.
AMEN !!
My question still is.. IF he was proven in a court to not be a citizen.. What would happen next ?
Would Biden , Lord help us , be prez ?
Klig19:
No, I actually think that the "2nd place team" should be awarded the win (due to "forfeit").
I'm already excited about the prospects of Sarah in the Whitehouse !!
I will be walking on sunshine when obama goes to prison.
I just read on WND that they are working day and night scrubbing this site of all questions that are being asked about Obama's birth. What a transparent and open goverment we have. You can ask a question but they are only gone answer it if it is an easy one and they don't have to revel the truth about the usurper in the white house. Obama is not legal and he knows he is not and all of them knows he is not. all of them are crooks.
If you voted for Obama and this post makes you mad- ask yourself, would you have voted for this guy if he had said, I'm a Kenyan Muslim but I want to look out for the best interest of the United States ?
There is no doubt some of you hate your country enough to have voted for him anyway, but there are others who deserved the truth that voted for this usurper based on deceitful information.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1503/text
H.R. 1503 is a bill introduced into congress to address this issue because to date- there is no requirement that a presidential candidate provide his birth certificate and other documents to prove eligibility.
"Text of H.R.1503 as Introduced in House
To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution.
current 111st session of congress"
Jesus Christ wasn't the King of the Jews by vote or by conquest, but He is now if the Jews so make Him!
O'Bushama (Bush's 3rd Term on STEROIDS) is the Plunderer-in-Chief that in less than 100 days gave us quadruple deficits, never ending war, tax cheats, Stock Market Crash, GM Gangster Motors, AIG America International Gangsters.
Promised Transparency but on his Eligibility all we get is A Secrecy Conspiracy.
Obama/Soetoro "The Bastard Child or unknow legal name or roots" took over Washington, DC and made it USURPERVILLE, DC.
PONZI PREZ is a FRAUD who used ACORN (and his) FRAUD, FORGERY, etc to steal the presidency.
BO Got BC? LQQK see @ www.wnd.com
The BaWRECK Obamerica has started.
PS Obama/Soetoro won his first election in 1996 in Chicago REPRESENTING the Communist Party. How come we know all about Joe the Plumber but NOTHING about O'Bushama?
PROUD Birther look for PROOF from O'Fraudama.
If he has nothing to hide then produce the documents and put this issue to rest. I believe phony docs will appear just like the fake BC online.
kljg19, Biden would be temp POTUS as per 20th ammendment, then a replacement would be assigned or likely elected.
By what authority? Until such time as barack hussein obama is able to provide a United States birth certificate, I refuse to acknowledge him as President. Because of his failure to provide documentation, I believe it is our duty as citizens to have him removed from office immediately via all peaceable and legal channels. If found guily of lying about his natural-born status, he should be tried for fraud and treason.
If BHO makes it to 2012, and decides to run for a second term, surely this time he would be required to prove he is natural born citizen. But I put nothing past the Dems to do whatever it takes to keep him in office.
Suggestion: I have been calling every Republican Senator and Representative to ask them to write a letter to the President and ask him to produce his Hawiian 1961 long form BC. All they have to say is that they are receiving calls asking about it. Let's put the pressure on them to act.
JimBlack:
Yes the Obama supporters in Congress are already working behind the scenes. They have a bill in process which would redefine Natural Born Citizen from its historical constitutional meaning to something more suited to their needs with Obama. See HR 1868 at this link:
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1868/show
They also have another bill in process to repeal the term limits 22nd amendment in our Constitution so Obama can run more than twice. This is the same thing that Hugo Chavez recently did in Venezuela by changing their Constitution to repeal term limits.
Obama and his far-left, socialist minions are a real danger to our liberty and Constitution. He has totally ignored Article II of the Constitution with obfuscations and phony digital images of questional documents. He is making a mockery of our rule of law and our Constitutional Republic. And the enabling Main Stream Media (MSM) has allowed him to do this. There is major trouble ahead for our country if the people do not demand and get an investigation of the true identity of Obama by full Congressional hearings with full subpoena powers by both the majority and minority members of the investigating Congressional committee. We need this hearing before it is too late. Look who Obama is consulting with today as to our national interest, not people in the USA but the King of Saudi Arabia to who he bowed to on the last visit and from whom he has obtained much financing in his political career over time. He is clearly influenced by foreigners and of which John Jay warned George Washington about. Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, as his father was not a Citizen nor was his father even an immigrant to the USA!
http://www.thebirthers.org
RJ
What happens when a person is not doing the job that the boss requires? They get fired! The people in Wash have neglected the will of the people in favor of big money and getting re-elected. We the people are the boss. Let's clean house--get rid of this corrupt crew and replace them with true patriots! Power to the people!
The BaWRECK Obamerica has started.
Bush I said "read my lips" and raised taxes anyway.
Bush II threw America and the Constitution in the toilet.
Bush III, O'Bushama, the 3rd term that we were warned about, but on STEROIDS, threw the flag, Christians and Patriots in that same toilet peed and crapped on it and is about to FLUSH. Americans don't let this happen to our country. We have our faults but we deserve respect and a Real President at least one that we know his Legal Name and Eligibility. The President has to be ONE OF US unfraid to prove who he is. The Eligibility Secrecy Conspiracy stops here.
Americans Stand Up, Wake Up, Rise Up before there is no America to Stand For.
The BaWRECK Obamerica has started.
BO Got NBC? LQQK See at www.wnd.com
Tell two friends about it before it is too late.
PS We elected and the Muddy Stream Media, DNC, FEC,etc helped in this FRAUD someone UNPROVEN, UNQUALIFIED, INEXPERIENCED and a Known Communist.
Who knows that Obama/Soetoro won his first election in Chicago Representing the Communist Party (New Party)? The media was too busy checking out Joe the Plumber and Bristol Palin that were not running for anything and allowed this FRAUD of a PONZI PREZ to happen. Treasonous Acts against America that need to be fully investigated.
Everyone in power knows about this most all in CONgrss, Administration, DNC, GOP, Courts, FBI, CIA, Relators, Electors have all been served and WARNED.
Time to step up or all of you will be accomplices and in VIOLATION of the OATH that you promised to uphold.
The Eligibility Secrecy Conspiracy has to be exposed adn stopped.
This is NOT a matter of Race this is a DISGRACE.
Where are the Patriots and Ethical Politicians?
Time for Courage, Leadership and Honesty.
Who will be FIRST to Put America FIRST?
Do you believe the United States has be hijacked by a Muslim? Just the facts please!
Fact 1. Constitution Article II, Section II sets forth the qualifications for presidential candidates: ""No person except a NATURAL BORN Citizen", or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and have been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
Fact 2. Just because you are a US Citizen or have a US birth certificate, does NOT mean that your are a "NATURAL BORN" Citizen of the USA!!!
Fact 3. A Birth Certificate or documentation of a birth in a hospital should include at least: a number referring to the document, the name of the hospital, the mothers and fathers birthplace and ages, and with the attending doctor's signature.
Fact 4. The state of Hawaii issues a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) for those born: inside the State of Hawaii, outside of the State of Hawaii, and even outside the country if the parents, or one of the parents, are natives of, or residents in, the State of Hawaii. They also allow Late Registration. Every illegal alien born in Hawaii gets a Hawaiian COLB!!! The questionable*(see notes below) Certification of Live Birth (with a rev. 11/01 printed by a computer on a 2001 form for someone supposedly born in 1961) submitted on the web page of Barack Obama indicates that Barack Hussein Obama II was born on Aug. 4, 1961 to the mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama. http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert
Fact 5. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, was not a US citizen, he was a bureaucrat Muslim in the communist government of Kenya. Under the British Nationality Act of 1948 he was a citizen of the United Kingdom and its Colonies. Under this Act, IF he was married to Stanley Ann Dunham and IF he acknowledged Barack Hussein Obama, Jr, as his son, or IF they were not married and he still acknowledged the boy, and IF he filed the correct paperwork with the British Colonial Authorities in Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama II, was born as a British Colonial Citizen and possesses a Birth Certificate which should still exist on file in Kenya and, presumably, London, England. Under Chapter VI. Section 87, of The Constitution of Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama Sr. became a Kenyan citizen on December 12th 1963. If Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, filed the correct papers with the British Colonial Authorities and with the Kenyan Government Barack Hussein Obama II also became a Kenyan citizen on December 12th 1963 under Section 97. of the Kenyan Constitution and still remains a Kenyan Citizen.
Fact 6. Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo a Muslim Indonesian citizen.
Fact 7. Under Indonesian Law you can not adopt a child over the age of five, even abroad, if you are an Indonesian Citizen. In “Dreams from my Father”, Obama says he lived with his step-father in Indonesia for five years and that by the time he and his mother arrived in Indonesia she and Lolo had been married for over a year before Lolo returned to Indonesia. Five years + one year = 6 years and when Barack Hussein Obama II returned to Hawaii prior to September of 1971 because he was enrolled in his Prep School in Hawaii to start the Fifth Grade he was 10 years old so he was probably shy of 4 years old when Dunham married Soetoro and arrived in Indonesia about the time of his fifth Birthday (1966).
Fact 8. Indonesian Law says: “Foreign persons under age of five who are adopted by Indonesian Citizens obtain Indonesian Citizenship following legalization of adoption process by District Court of general jurisdiction with jurisdiction over the adoptive parents [Id at Art. 2 (1)]“ “It is stipulated that an adopted child has the same status as a natural child, and that his or her relationship to the birth parents is severed by adoption”.
Fact 9. The only Legal Relationship he would have to his mother is that she was married to his Legal Father Lolo Soetoro, under Indonesian Law. He would be an Indonesian Citizen with an Indonesian Passport and an entry in Lolo’s KK documents.
Fact 10. Indonesian Law prior to August 1966 would be Indonesian Law 62/1958 and other prior Indonesian Laws. Indonesian Law does not accept Dual Nationality/Citizenship, so Barack Hussein Obama II would no longer be a US Citizen according to Indonesian Law, in fact he would be considered never to have been one at all.
Fact 11. Lolo Soetoro would be his guardian, next of Kin and father. His Religion would be Legally Listed and Registered as Islam because children have the Religion of their Father under Indonesian Law and can have no other. His Surname would become Soetoro, in full Soetoro Mangunharjo with Barry as his given name at the choosing by his father Lolo.
Fact 12. Barry Soetoro was enrolled on January 1st 1968, given Serial No 203 and placed in Class 1 B. His Religion is given as Islam, his Nationality Indonesian, his Father’s Name as L Soetoro Ma., his Father’s Occupation as Official, Director General’s Office TNI [Topography Division Indonesian Army] and his Name as Barry Soetoro.
Fact 13. Only citizen Indonesian children were enrolled in Indonesian Schools in 1968, SD Asisi was a Roman Catholic School within the Indonesian State System, it was not an International School. Therefore, if he attended this school and subsequently SDN Menteng 1, State Elementary School, and every source agrees that this is the case, he would have to have been enrolled as an Indonesian Citizen.
Fact 14. All records show that Lolo Soetoro Ma. is described as his father and that no mention is made of his mother.
Fact 15. Indonesia in the sixties was a Police State! Everybody, even babes, had Identity Documents of some sort, possibly including Passports. Everybody was registered with the Government, one way or another. The head of each family, usually the father, but in rare cases a widowed, or divorced, mother has an Official Document called a Kartu Keluarga (Family Card). This lists every household/family member and gives their details in the same way as their individual KTPs or KITAS visas would.
Fact 16. An adopted, child called a WNI, warga negara Indonesia, has the same KK entry as any other Indonesian child. When a child enrolls in School their details are taken down from their KK Entry, as presented by the father (who is also required, at that time, to produce his KTP to verify the details on the KK). They are then given their Student KTP. KKs, like KTPs, are issued by the Government and cross checked by the National Police and Immigration Service.
Fact 17. Everything on Barry Soetoro record's at SD Asisi matches what would be true if he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro before he arrived in Indonesia. Schools are subject to periodical checks by both the Police and Immigration Officers as well as School Inspectors; this includes the teachers as well as the students.
Fact 18. Under Indonesian Law Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian Citizen and he could not Renounce that Citizenship until he was between the ages of 18 and 21, after 21 possibly he could not renounce it at all.
Fact 19. Dual nationals owe allegiance to both countries and are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if that person later travels there. Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country.
Fact 20. Somehow Stanley Ann Dunham got the necessary letter of permission from her husband so Barry Soetoro could go to Hawaii. An Indonesian Citizen called Barry Soetoro left Jakarta on an Indonesian Passport with both a US Visa and also an Indonesian Exit Visa. But an American Citizen called Barack Obama landed in Hawaii.
Fact 21. The US law states for a "NATURAL BORN" US Citizen for the time Barack Hussein Obama II was born between December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986: If, at the time of your birth, both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship with no conditions for retaining it. If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16. http://immigration.findlaw.com/immigration/immigration-citizenship-naturalization/immigration-citizenship-naturalization-did-you-know(1).html
Fact 22. Obama's mother was only 18 years old at his birth, NOT the 16 + 5 = 21 required because his father was not a US citizen. Therefore Barack Hussein Obama II is NOT a "NATURAL BORN" US Citizen as required to become the President of the USA!!!
Fact 23. There must be a paper trail in Hawaii, US State Dept., and other Federal and Foreign Government Records to prove, or disprove the above facts and if there is not then somebody has removed the trail. If that is the case there has been a criminal conspiracy and all these moles involved need to go to prison!!! At the State Dept. Obama's records have been breached 3 times by employees of a company that the CEO is an adviser to Sen. Obama!!!
Fact 24. We had an Indonesian Barry Soetoro with an Indonesian passport leaving Indonesia but upon the arrival in Hawaii we had the same person Barack Hussein Obama II now magically a US citizen.
Fact 25. All of Barry's classmates throughout all of his school years knew him as Barry until he started college whereupon he was Barack Obama when he left the island of Hawaii to the mainland.
Fact 26. It is the responsibility of the presidential candidate to prove that they meet the qualifications of the Constitution, not the voters. So let Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama II supply copies of all the original documents that would prove he is a "NATURAL BORN Citizen of the United States of America" as defined and required by the US Constitution to become the President & Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and he has no allegiance to another country!!!
Questions, Notes, & Comments:
1. Where is the original 1961 Birth Certificate that was issued at the time of birth of Obama II with the signature of the attending doctor? There were 2 hospitals in Honolulu at that time, but by phone I was denied my request to find out if they had Obama's documents. The document in 1961 would have been black & white!!!
Obama claimed in the first chapter of his book Dreams From My Father: "I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school." Time wise this would be before 1980, so why is he trying to pawn off on us a COLB that was made after 2001?
2. Dunham by an application for SSN 535-40-8522 stating she was born Nov. 29, 1942, so if Barack was born on Aug. 4, 1961 Dunham was 18 years old.
3. From US immigration, exactly when starting in 1961 did Dunham, Obama Sr., Barack Hussein Obama II, &/or Barry Soetoro depart Hawaii? Were there any other reentries or exits (with full details) before the final entry of Barack Hussein Obama II at age 10 when he started school in Sept. 1971 in Hawaii?
4. Sen. Obama's own Kenyan paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed that Stanley Ann Dunham gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.
5. Did Obama Sr. document his son with the Kenyan government? If so Obama II is probably still a citizen of Kenya &/or the UK.
6. How did Dunham legally enter an Indonesia citizen named Barry Soetoro into Hawaii with the name of Barack Obama???
7. Where are the legal papers that show Barry Soetoro's name was changed to Barack Hussein Obama II?
8. Did Barry Soetoro formally renounce Indonesian Citizenship between the ages of 18 and 21 and if so where are the documents? If Barry did not renounce then he is still an Indonesian citizen and Indonesian Law would prevail.
9. Senator Obama was an Indonesian Citizen as a boy but probably still is one legally. Perhaps this explains Julia Suryakusuma's view that Obama could run for President of Indonesia as expressed in her article in "The Jakarta Post" on 29th November 2006. Julia Suryakusuma was one of Stanley Ann Dunham's best friends. http://old.thejakartapost.com/yesterdaydetail.asp?fileid=20061129.F03
10. Did Barack Hussein Obama II upon the age of 18 comply with all the requirements of the Selective Service Registration until he reached the age of 26: Defense Authorization Act established Title 5, U.S. Code, Section 3328? If so what is his Selective Service number? Have him release all of these records.
11. The State Department should know what kind of passport and name Obama used on his journey to visit his mother in Pakistan, in 1981.
12. See FACT 4. Hawaii issue of CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH (COLB) with a revision for the year 2001 for someone born in 1961 means absolutely nothing because Barack Hussein Obama II could have been born outside of the USA and still received this document since his mother was a resident of the state.
dperano, How could his mother, a US citizen, be in Pakistan in 1981? It could not be on a US visa!
Please also post this on the number 1 topic on the site. http://opengov.ideascale.com/akira/dtd/4387-4049
Obama is paying his lawyers to hide his birth certificate. We know this fact because his lawyers' responses to the lawsuits are public record. It is sheer craziness that a president would HIDE his birth certificate. Why?? Everyone needs to know this fact. www.800poundgorillamedia.com
This lawsuit will reach SCOTUS and be heard on the merits. It was brought when Obama was no longer a candidate but a Federal official. It asks for the Supreme Court to define Natural Born Citizen as one of its goals. That and it is a suit against Congress for failure to do its duty under the Constitution and illegal activities during the Joint Session.
Kerchner et al v Obama & Congress et al:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11317148/
One page summary of the case:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16055983/
http://www.thebirthers.org/
RJ
Natural Born Citizen Defined:
Natural Born Citizen
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Natural%20Born%20Citizen
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=natural+born+citizen+
1. Those born of parents who are citizens.
2. A person born of American parents. Thus a person born abroad of American parents, according to the Constitution, would be eligible to the office of President.
3. One whose citizenship is established by the jurisdiction which the United States already has over the parents of the child, not what is thereafter acquired by choice of residence in this country.
4. Those persons born whose father the United States already has an established jurisdiction over, i.e., born to father's who are themselves citizens of the United States.
5. One who is a citizen by no act of law.
If a person owes their citizenship to some act of law, they cannot be considered a natural-born citizen. This leads us to defining natural-born citizen under the laws of nature.
Children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children.
In order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. Vattel, The Law of Nations: I. XIX. § 212.
The Framers were not men who dropped words in by accident. They thought about every word. They argued about every word.
By drawing on the term so well known from English law, the Founders were recognizing the law of hereditary, rather than territorial allegiance. Alexander Porter Morse, "Natural-Born-Citizen of the United States: Eligibility for the Office of President," Albany Law Journal, vol.66 (1904), pp. 99. The framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the President should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth. Morse, op. cit, p. 99.
The presidential eligibility clause was scarcely intended to bar the children of American parentage, whether born at sea or in foreign territory. The Founders and the first Congress, which passed the 1790 Naturalization Act, defined a "natural born" citizen as one whose citizenship is established by the jurisdiction which the United States already has over the parents of the child, not what is thereafter acquired by choice of residence in this country. Morse, op. cit., p. 99. Whoever drew the Act followed closely the various parliamentary statues of Great Britain; and its language in this relation indicates that the first congress entertained and declared that children of American parentage, wherever born, were within the constitutional designation, "natural-born citizens." The act is declaratory: but the reason that such children are natural born remains; that is, their American citizenship is natural -- the result of parentage -- and is not artificial or acquired by compliance with legislative requirements. Morse, op. cit., p. 100.
If the Founders had not wanted an expansive definition of citizenship, it would only have been necessary to say, 'no person, except a native-born citizen.' Morse, op. cit., p. 99.
It should be noted that Morse is reluctant to accept one implication of the dictionary definition of "native-born," namely, that it includes people born in the United States even if their parents are not citizens.
If you are born of American parents, you are a Natural Born Citizen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen
Meets the criteria here, and courts would have to make decision if a question.
Here is the legal certificate posted for all:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
Joeseph Rizzi,
both are dead WRONG!
obamas father was Kenyan so Obama can NEVER be eligible...
do you think Wifedpedia is a credible source???
LOL!
latimes pic is NOT a proper birth cert, it is the short form computer generated fraud...
Joseph,
Here is another, newer, just made copy of Mr. Hussein's COLB. Isn't PhotoShop wonderful. No paper analysis by an official independent document expert has ever been allowed by the Obama camp of the paper used to make the digital picture of the COLB. Is it real, memorex, or photoshopped. See the link in the below page and take a look at this new image for Mr. Hussein. It is even better than the first digital image he produced, which not have a seal imprint on it. This one does. I suggest you refer to this one in the future. It is of better PhotoShop quality work.
http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4068
Also, for essays by numerous writers on the historical and legal term of art meaning, and even a linguistic analysis of the term, natural born citizenship, see this site:
http://www.thebirthers.org
RJ