OpenGov - Open Government Brainstorm

A racist? Please, you can't disagree with the President because he's half black without being called a racist?

What are you, 13 years old?

So what you're saying is that you have no respect for the free and open exchange of ideas or the political opinions of others, that vary or fail to conform to your own limited tyrannical views. Yeah, like that's news! Here's a hint...this is the land of free speech. We have a little document called the Constitution. You may want to read it sometime.

If yo could implement the totalitarian edicts you obviously support, do you have any idea how miserable and controlled you life would be, if you were allowed to live at all? Wake up my fellow American, you're dangerously and foolishly advocating your own demise.

A Vet.

When you have to provide a complete birth certificate to pay little league don't you think it might be a goodf idea to have the same requirement for President of the USA? What are you all afraid of that maybe he really isn't Constitutionally qualified? Why would anyone spend in excess of a million dollars fighting what might cost $30 to get a copy of. BTW what was posted by his campaign was a certificate of live birth not a birth certificate bug difference between documents. Hawaii offers the CLB to anyone who's parents want to apply for one in the first 24 months of life. One of the Japenses General during WWII boasted of having the same thing.

Oh the squabbling monkies!!! feigned intellegence! What a waste of ape!!! the spirit that resides in the ape known as "buddy"

Racist?

Perhaps if we could actually see his Birth Certificate we could figure out just what race he is..LOL!

Until then, we don't even know his race.

His mother is as white as mine, so how can he be "black"?

whenever I respond to comments people have my rebuttal removed- how's that for free speech?

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#1 I read the whole thing, cap a commie, a few times now, and didn't focus on the one part that singles out my own agenda. If you had any real sense of American freedom you would rethink your site nickname, and you would certainly rethink your argument. If you had any brains at all your group would realize that this spamming only serves to hurt your cause by making you all look like crazy people.

#2 Alot of these posts definitely sound racist to me. The overwhelming bulk of the others just sound misinformed or borderline retarded. There are a couple that are well written- but those are far overshadowed by the high numbers of those posted by full on nut jobs.

#3 Completely annoyed by the takeover of this site by morons.

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What makes me sad is that you all believe that the constitution protects harassing speech. Spamming this site isn't covered in the 1st Amendment. I honestly and wholeheartedly support your rights to say whatever the hell you want- just don't use your "free speech" to cover up the ideas of the other people here whose ideas are being hidden by the overwhelming number of posts that all say the same thing. Spam is spam, and if you would all just legitimately vote up one idea, your cause would carry more weight.

You are all showing yourselves to closed minded little plebes whenever you say that any objection to your argument is an attack on your freedom of speech. As far as I have seen- you are the only ones doing this to anyone, and all I have said here with this post is that this "hijacking" needs to stop.

Birthers are a recist terrorist org? You reached that conclusion how?

Barry was born in Kenya according to his relatives there. His sis said he was born in a hospital in Hawaii that oddly enough was not built until after he was born.

By his own book, we know he was raised overseas at a school that his father registared him both as a muslim and a citizen of that country.

We also know from his book that He went to Pakistan in the 80s before he had an American Passport. So on what country's passport did he travel on?

Barry is not legally president for just some of the above reasons. We need this to be answered and soon.

To ask for something required for the job is not terrorism and anyone who thinks the birth certificate on the web belongs to the guy in the White House please link me to the statement from him that verifies it.

Thank you

Why is it that the crybaby Obozo fanatics have to whine 'racism' because of this?....is that the ONLY word in their vocabulary?....as for the 'terrorist' crap, that dog won't hunt....this is a 1st Amendment issue if anything....the only way we could be 'terrorists' for demanding that Obozo show his long form birth certificate is because it makes them afraid he will be exposed as a fraud.....well it it makes them wet their lower class panties,then so much the better.

I am open to debate on just about anything, but I do think that thousands of posts- most of them terribly written- is overkill for any idea. Especially this nonsense surrounding a birth certificate and college records. You have to know that you all sound pretty crazy- and this coming from a guy who loves conspiracy theories.

The simple point is this: this forum was created to give suggestions about issues that are important to the American people- and to post solutions to these problems. Multiple posts asking for Obama's birth certificate isn't going to fix the economy, and it's certainly not going to get anyone a job.

If you folks would for one second pull your heads out of your asses and put those brains to work on something useful this site might actually do something to influence federal policy. The Constitution you are all so hot to quote is coming to light with forums like this- this is your chance to participate in bringing the principles of the Constitution back to life.

If I remember correctly, GW Bush never put anything like this into motion- he never once asked for a public forum of American opinion. Instead he took us to war based on lies, and limited our freedoms in exchange for fear.

well sorry folks- I've been flagged for moderator approval- guess that means my 1st amendment isn't as valid as yours. Hope we can all learn something from this, but in my experience with small minded demagogues- there is rarely anything that can be done to get either them or their blind followers to listen to any sort of reason. No one is really open to debate here, and what was a beautiful attempt at exercising the finer aspects of our American freedoms has now descended into a conversation based in conspiratorial lunacy. I'm really sorry that it has come to this- as it's just one more thing to support the fact that the majority of American's aren't responsible enough or intelligent enough to handle the freedoms they so often quote. You are all the reasons that our freedoms are slowly disappearing. Thanks for nothing, assholes.

Gee,mikey....that's a real crying shame....maybe if you hadn't used such infantile ad hominem language to label those of us who think Obozo has something to hide here because he has already spent a small fortune in legal fees to keep his birth certificate from being released,the moderator wouldn't have locked you in your room....the mere fact that you tried to label ALL of us as racist terrorists shows that you really don't deserve to be taken seriously in this matter...you're just doing what ALL lefties do when confronted with an issue that makes you uncomfortable...you try to shout down or shut up or smear those you disagree with so that your argument wins by default...get a clue,dude....those days are gone for good....you need to get over yourself.

pssssspt!!! I think you were flagged because you keep putting up the a$$hole comments

Was it crazy when there was a debate about McCain being able to run for president since he was born in the canal zone?

The Libs were all up in arms about that and no one accused them of being racist. Why is that? Because it was not a racist issue.

This is an issue of is he legally a natural born American or was he born in Kenya? Did he ever take an oath of loyality when he returned to the United States as a Young man to regain his citizenship if he ever had it in the first place? These are all reasonable questions and made a conspiracy only by obama's refusal to pony up.

Why is it Crazy or racist to demand documentation that is required for a Dr. Lic. or even signing up for pee wee ball as one parent pointed out?

As Billy Shakesphere said, "Dude, you be protesting way to much for something that don't matter. Word."

Btw - This Website was created in 2008 during the Bush Admin. It is a privately owned site. The Opengov acct may have been

created by the Obama admin but the FirstGov.gov website was put forth and enhanced during the Bush years.

The only smear campaign on this website is being perpetrated by those who are constantly complaining of being smeared. I'm pretty sure I only said "a$$hole" once- I was flagged because I invited others to share the depth of your shared psychosis to the mainstream world. How's that for a conspiracy to limit free speech? Why doesn't the conservative media report on your issue? Is it because you are crazy, and crazy just doesn't stand up to scrutiny?

"Why doesn't the conservative media report on your issue? Is it because you are crazy, and crazy just doesn't stand up to scrutiny?"

The Conservative media is the ONLY ones reporting on this issue. And only a few of them to boot.

Better question. Why is the mainstream dino media ignoring this issue? Why is it being swept under the rug when it would be so easy

to do so if this is truly much ado about nothing?

No,mikey....you were flagged because you insist on smearing people who disagree with you with terms like 'shared psychosis'...suggesting that ANYBODY who dares to disagree with you must be mentally unbalanced....and since you clearly have no professional training in the mental health field,and since you don't know ANY of us personally,ergo it's a libelous ad hominem....maybe if you learned how to debate an issue without resorting to false premises like that,the moderators wouldn't treat you like an ill tempered crank with a partisan ax to grind.

I do have professional training mental health, plebe. That's what I do.

If that is true...something that has yet to be firmly established...then you are not only acting in an unprofessional manner, your ethics are VERY questionable to say the least....no reputable professional in that field would presume to label people he has never met...much less examined in a clinical setting...as having a 'shared psychosis'...particularly over a controversial political subject where honorable people can disagree....your so called 'professional training' not withstanding,you are behaving in a petulant and childish manner and using tactics that are straight out of the Saul Alinsky play book.

Hey, Mikey, how much do you know about the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission? You need to know who they are and what their relationship is to the U.S. government.

I'll have a Bilderburger with cheese....hold the Illuminati.

wow- a little to alex jones-y for me... sorry

How do you defend this:

HALF BLACK PRESIDENT 100% GANGSTA! A DISGRACE TO THE BLACK MOVEMENT

jbabajian 1 minute ago

Okay, so Obama sucks, we all know that he is simply evil or delusional: The World's Greatest Huckster or a misguided idealest. Either way, he is a dangerous menace who must be stopped. Gangsta Obama has led an unprecedented theft of our future and any vision of The American Dream for generations to come.

He needs to be "taken-out" by Congress Members who will not be bullied into compliance for fear of alienating certain minority bases, like the blacks and latinos who are only too happy to fall in line with Obama's dangerous leftwing agenda, aimed at ruining our way of life, under the guise of fairness and repairations.

The gangsta must show us a copy of his birth certificate. There is no way you can convince me that Hawaii has no photocopying machines.

Even if Mr. Obama was born in the U. S., the prick still needs to go. Like black comedian Chris Rock says, "I love black people, but I hate niggers". That's a a fair sentiment, ONLY if you use the "N" word as a slang to describe an African American Thief with little or no regard for his or her victims.

Obama is clearly a gangsta thief, however he can never be called the "N" word, because he's not "African American"....well he is, only as much as he is white.

Our first Mulato President is robbing us blind and he may not even be eligible to hold office.

Either way, I sincerely hope that Congress will wake-up and stop acting mesmorized by his even-temperedness. It's a calculated act to avoid harsh criticism.

Obabma must be taken-out swifty. Impeach the gangsta

where was obama born?

"He needs to be "taken-out" by Congress Members who will not be bullied into compliance for fear of alienating certain minority bases..."

Most of Congress is taking their orders from the same people Obama gets his. You may joke about it but our government is up to their eyeballs in conspiracies with the globalists.

Obama must have wrote this himself. You want transparency you juvenile, that's what you're gonna get. I'm gonna expose you for what and who you are.

First you freeze your opposition; call them "Birthers". Then you isolate them; Ignore that they are there. Then you marginalize them; call them kooks and racists. Sal Alinski's book "Rules For Radicals". It's readily available for those of you who want to know the tactics being used on this admin's critics. Behind closed doors they're laughing at this. For now.

First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win. Gandhi

Wow wemo.mike, what a convincing argument. Everyone, notify the media with Mike's amazing discovery! (note sarcasm please) Okay, Mike: Grow up. No, really ... grow up. Stop using Alinsky's tactics - we all know them and it just makes you look like a hate-filled, bigoted fool. Come back after you've gotten past the diapers and tantrums phase, and actually have something of value to add to the discussion - or of course, if you can provide a cogent argument as to why Obama SHOULDN'T show his long form birth certificate and other documents (not holding my breath). Until then, you've simply showed us all your hand and have revealed just how pathetically weak your argument is by resorting to childish argumentum ad hominem.

It does NOT matter where Obama/Soetoro was born!

his father was Kenyan, so he can NEVER be eligible for office as per the U.S. Constitution as he can NEVER be a Natural born Citizen.

"Even if Obama were born in a joint session of Congress on the 4th of July and wrapped in Old Glory hed NEVER be eligible because his Father was a FOREIGNER!" www.ObamaNotQualified.com

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100019

Obama: U.S. 'one of largest Muslim countries'

President makes inaccurate statement as White House stresses his Islamic roots

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Meanwhile, ABC News' Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report the White House's new approach of stressing Obama's Islamic roots as part of the president's outreach to the Muslim world. The move is in contrast to Obama's stance during the presidential campaign, during which the mere mention of his middle name – Hussein – was strongly condemned as fear-mongering by Obama's spokesmen.

During a conference call in preparation for the president's Muslim address tomorrow, deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Denis McDonough said "the President himself experienced Islam on three continents before he was able to – or before he's been able to visit, really, the heart of the Islamic world – you know, growing up in Indonesia, having a Muslim father – obviously Muslim Americans (are) a key part of Illinois and Chicago."

Yes, it's funny how Obama downplayed his Islamic background before the elections and now is bringing it to the forefront in his middle eastern diplomacy meetings. And now the government, for the people, by the people...etc.,is trying to silence the people? These are people who simply want the truth! Color of skin is not the issue here! TRUTH is the issue and the degradation of our nation by a fraudulent leader who knows nothing of our history and obviously where our law and constitution originated...and the direction he is taking our country in a head-turning pace!

I see that none of the obamalanders have been able to link to the statement from "0" that verifies the document on the web.

Well,let's not make too much of Obozo being a Muslim....I mean if the boy wants to stick his ass in the air like a submissive punk waiting to be mounted by an alpha male 5 times a day in order to honor a mass murdering pedophile, then who are we to judge?

Why the need for bill H.R. 1503?

H.R.1503: To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution.

Oh, you mean in case we have another presidential election!?!? From where I sit, that doesn't look likely to happen - ever again!

wemo, You are ranting about valid requests for proof that Obama meets the Constitutional requirement for the presidency. However, you and your fellow libs have failed to supply an iota of evidence to explain what could possibly motivate obama keeping his hospital bc hidden. You spew hate at everyone who demands what the Constitution demands. Are you so afraid of what this bc will reveal???????????????????

A Racist calling dissenters racists...How typically Sotero. The Racist Usurper, Commie/Facist LIAR. The ONLY time he isn't lying, is when he's asleep, and that's only because we can't see into his dreams.