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Stop posting this subject. It is over doing it. We get it.

http://www.wnd.com/obama_petition

Honestly, give it up! Hawaii is a real state. Obama was really born there. This desperate effort to make his presidency illegitimate is really pathetic. YOU LOST. Move on.

Google is easy!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Origins: In the first half of 2008, a number of rumors swirling around about presidential candidate Barack Obama coalesced in the claim that he "refused to produce his birth records" because doing so would demonstrate some or all of those rumors to be true: that Barack Obama was "not African, " that he was a Muslim with a middle name of Mohammed, that he wasn’t born in the United States at all (and thus didn’t qualify as a native-born citizen), etc.

In any event the rumormongers were likely to be disappointed. Information about religion and race, when it was collected for birth records, simply reflected

whatever the parents identified themselves to be; those values weren’t officially assigned to the newborn children as immutable labels. And of course, no infant

has any control over whatever names his parents choose for him.

As things turned out, when the Obama campaign made a copy of his Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii available on the Internet in June 2008, it validated none of those rumors: The certificate shows his full name to be "Barack Hussein Obama II, " it lists his father’s race as "African" and his mother’s as "Caucasian, " it contains no information about religion, and it reports his birthplace as being Honolulu, Hawaii.

A number of self-proclaimed experts immediately seized the opportunity to pronounce the certificate a forgery (even though none of them had actually seen the original, just a scanned image of it), picking on such specious details as minor variations from other Hawaii-issued certificates and the lack of an embossed seal

and signature. (Some forgery claimants even maintained that the certificate was actually an altered version of one issued to Barack Obama’s half-sister, Maya.)

Aside from the inherent absurdity of such claims (i.e., that a major party presidential nominee would risk his entire candidacy on a fraud that could be uncovered simply by a check of state health records), the supposedly incriminating details don’t pan out: the certificate is consistent with others issued in the same time and place, and the embossed seal and signature don’t show through very well on the scanned front image made available on the Internet because they were applied to the back of the original document, not the front. Those who have actually touched and examined the original certificate have verified and documented that it bears all the elements of a valid certificate of live birth.

Moreover, both of Honolulu’s major newspapers (the Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin) published announcements in August 1961 documenting the birth, in Honolulu, of a son to "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama" on 4 August 1961:

In August 2008, Philadelphia attorney Philip Berg included claims of a forged certificate (among other rumors) as the basis for a suit in U.S. District Court challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility for the presidency on the grounds that Obama was actually born in Kenya (not Hawaii) and/or subsequently gave up his U.S. citizenship and thus does not qualify as a native-born citizen of the U.S. In October 2008 a federal judge dismissed the complaint:

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg’s allegations of harm were "too vague and too attenuated" to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg’s attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did "not constitute an injury in fact" and Berg’s arguments to the contrary "ventured into the unreasonable."

(A similar lawsuit was dismissed by a U.S. District Court judge in March 2009.)

Also in October 2008, Hawaiian officials reported that they had personally verified the existence of Barack Obama’s original birth certificate:

State officials say there’s no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino says she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.

Fukino says that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama’s certificate be handled differently from any other.

She says state law bars release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest in it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Hawaii Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino and the state's registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, say they checked health department records and have determined there's no doubt Obama was born in Hawaii.

The nonpartisan Web site Factcheck.org examined the original document and said it does have a raised seal and the usual evidence of a genuine document.

Hawaii Declares Obama Birth Certificate Genuine

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/10/31/20081031obama-birth1031-ON.html

Even Republicans Defend Obama

A scan of the Honolulu Advertiser from August 1961 is shown as well, this lists Obama's birth right there. Copies are available in HI Libraries locally.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/12/obama-is-an-american-no-really/

For many of us to get hired at even the simple jobs we are required to show a birth certificate and two other forms of ID. I would think that running for president would require at least that. So unless there is something to hide then all records of Mr. Obama should be made public. He does represent the public correct? All the people of America Correct? Any records the people request should be presented to the people who pay his salary and elected him.

Mike Florida- read that AZ Republic article again- Hawaii said they have his birth certificate; they did NOT say it shows he was born in Hawaii. Further, they did not verify that the "Certification of Live Birth" posted on the internet was a valid document.

About the newspaper notice of birth- the people who lived at that address said no one named Obama ever lived there.

I fear this eligibility issue is going to blow up and prevent government from moving forward with necessary work. For the life of me, I cannot understand why President Obama doesn't simply produce his long-form birth certificate and put all of this controversy to rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe he has released his medical records yet, either.

Transparency is a great idea...please, Mr. President, show us that you are really committed to it by releasing your long-form birth certificate and your medical records.

Congress just passed and Obama signed the bill to make credit card company terms, conditions, statements easily understood and limited in length. The bill puts limits on penalties, fines and interest rates. Congress should apply the same transparency, easily understood language, limited length to the bills they produce and put the bills on line with a week for review and comment by the public with how much the bill is going to cost the taxpayer in easy, accurate language including the cost over time of money borrowed which this generation and future generations will have to pay off and add it to the already $500,000+ every American family already owes thanks to Congress.

Mr. Obama: You're Application for a Postion as President of U.S. is Incomplete

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1To Mr. Obama: Before we can offer you the job of President of the USA, we, like many employers, must see an offical copy of your high school & college transcripts and other academic records. This would include transcripts from all colleges & schools attended by you. In order to be certain of your citizenship status we need to see your passport, green card or birth certificate. This must be an offical long form version of your birth certificate which would have been filed by the health department shortly after your birth. I want to see Mr. Obama's long form birth certificate and his accadmeic records from elementary school attended outside of the US in Indonesia and Occidental College & Columbia Univestiy as well and also his passport. His college transcripts should be submitted, as we the people, are his employer and employers often ask for these items. Proof of citizenship, proof of academic completion. If he fails to produce these documents we could charge him with lying on his application for the job as President. By the Way, the certificate version stamped form 2007 which was submitted online and posted on the stop the smears website is unacceptable. I cannot accept this version from any client I work with in social services and I cannot accpet this version from anyone who wants to apply for the highest office in the USA. You will have a deadline by which these documants must be submitted and authenticated before WE the People can accept. That deadline is 30 days from this date (6/2/09). Failure to produce these documents will drastically impede your ability to run for elected office in the USA again. Thank you and God bless.

Why Is This Idea Important?

Why Is This Idea Important? As stated above, failure to produce these documents will indicate Mr. Obama's ineligiblity for the job of President of the USA and will drastically affect his ability to run for any elected office in the future in the future.

Idea # 2269Making Data More Accessible

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You are entitled to your opinion and to express it here, openly and intelligently... ONCE.

Stop hijacking America. You are just as bad or worst than your accused. Move over and give some other ideas and topics some room.

Selfish and Arrogant.