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WE THE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE REAL LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE

It's time that Mr. Obama steps up to the plate and shows ALL his important personal papers...i.e. his REAL birth certificate, his REAL passport, his college records and his Illinois Senate records. If there's nothing to hide than why is Mr. Obama paying a million dollars to conceal the truth. How did Mr. Obama travel to Indonesia in 1981 on an American Passport when no Americans were being given entry to Indonesia. Please don't offend our intelligence by telling us to read factcheck.com as that has already been proven as a photoshop produced forgery. We want the truth!

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  1. We have a right to see our President's Long form Birth Certificate and why did you use the name Barry Soetoro? Was that your adoptive name? Are you also a citizen of Indonesia? You must answer these questions and show your long form (original) birth certificate. NO lies and NO escape.

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  2. The copy of the COLB on Factcheck is a FAKE. Besides it isn't a Birth Certificate.

    It is a simple question. Why is BHO fighting to keep his record a secret? What is there to hide? What passport did he use to visit Pakistan in the 1980's when Pakistan was on the no-travel list at the U.S. State Dept.? Was it an Indonesian passport? Again the question is simple, as is the answer. So answer it already!

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  3. Our constitution says a President must be a natural born citizen...this is so the President gives his full attention to this country and no other. There should be no conflict within a President that could arise being born outside the United States.

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  4. Not showing your ORIGINAL birth certificate appears you are hiding it. If you don't show it, someone else will. That's a fact.

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  5. Is he hiding his mother's age (16,17,18?), his real father (Malcolm X?), or his birth place Kenya? Who knows?

    All I know is that under the Constitution you have to be a "Natural Born Citizen", and that is a birthright, that is not granted to you. He admitted on his Fightthesmears webpage that he was "born" British because of the British Nationality Act of 1948. This makes him not eligible to be President.

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  6. Fellow citizens, ask your congressman and Senators to ask Mr. Obama for permission to view the birth documents on file in Hawaii (along with an independent documents expert). If there is a legitimate birth document on file there, then Mr. Obama should be happy to provide the necessary permission (in order to settle the matter once and for all). If Mr. Obama does not permit such an inspection, it is because he is a FRAUD.

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  7. We need to see the whole chain of documentation of his "travels" around the world at this point.

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  8. Release it all:

    1. Occidental College records -- Not released

    2. Columbia College records -- Not released

    3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available"

    4. Harvard College records -- Not released

    5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released

    6. Medical records -- Not released

    7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available

    8. Your Illinois State Senate records -- Not available

    9. Law practice client list -- Not released

    10. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released

    11. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released

    12. Record of your baptism -- Not available

    Write your congresspeople and senators!

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  9. I would like to see a full court press but will the media co-operate? I think you know the answer.

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  10. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Born in the U.S.A.

    August 21, 2008

    Updated: November 1, 2008

    The truth about Obama's birth certificate.

    Summary

    In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

    We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

    Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

    Analysis

    Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

    Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.

    Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."

    Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

    Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.

    Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?

    Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?

    Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

    Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?

    Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.

    Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:

    The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.

    It isn't signed.

    No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.

    In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.

    The certificate number is blacked out.

    The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.

    The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."

    Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.

    The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller

    Alvin T. Onaka's signature stamp

    The raised seal

    Blowup of text

    You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.

    The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.

    The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.

    The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.

    We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.

    Blowup of certificate number

    Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.

    We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."

    We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."

    In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:

    Obama's birth announcement

    The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

    Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.

    Update, August 26: We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. They couldn't tell us anything about their security paper, but they did answer another frequently-raised question: why is Obama's father's race listed as "African"? Kurt Tsue at the DOH told us that father's race and mother's race are supplied by the parents, and that "we accept what the parents self identify themselves to be." We consider it reasonable to believe that Barack Obama, Sr., would have thought of and reported himself as "African." It's certainly not the slam dunk some readers have made it out to be.

    When we asked about the security borders, which look different from some other examples of Hawaii certifications of live birth, Kurt said "The borders are generated each time a certified copy is printed. A citation located on the bottom left hand corner of the certificate indicates which date the form was revised." He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."

    –by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller

    Sources

    United States Department of State. "Application for a U.S. Passport." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

    State of Hawaii Department of Health. "Request for Certified Copy of Birth Record." Accessed 20 Aug. 2008.

    Hollyfield, Amy. "Obama's Birth Certificate: Final Chapter." Politifact.com. 27 Jun. 2008.

    The Associated Press. "State declares Obama birth certificate genuine" 31 Oct 2008.

    Nakaso, Dan. "Obama's certificate of birth OK, state says; Health director issues voucher in response to 'ridiculous' barrage" Honolulu Advertiser 1 Nov 2008.

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  11. You are so on target. Why the heck would Obama just not show his LBC? He has destroyed many folks confidence in government. May God help us...

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  12. Until this is resolved, B. Hussein Obama is not my president.

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  13. Obamas birth certificate is just like him "A FAKE"

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